Uberti 1873 percussion saa

[James84]

Does anyone have any experience with this revolver? I understand the base pin can get stuck from fouling. If anyone owns one, how to keep that pin free and able to be removed without issue during extended shooting sessions?

I came across one for an extremely low price and am just wondering how this thing performs. With every percussion revolver that we own, we usually go through trial and error with it to find out what works best to get is as close to 100 reliability if possible.

I’m also wondering if it has issues with cap jams/ cap sucking issues. Thanks.

 

[whughett]

Can you clarify. Is this a Colt Single Action Army.
Normally a cartridge gun. I have one, but I’ve heard they are made for the Euro market with a percussion cylinder.

 

[arcticap]

I don't recall any issues with the Uberti 1873 Cattleman percussion.
They received very good reviews.
The only real negative is about difficulty capping them.
The cylinder has a bushing to help keep out fouling and if a cap comes loose it won't jam the gun.
If the cylinder pin were a problem then it can be wiped / lubed when the cylinder is removed for loading.
They're also very accurate although a couple folks indicated that it grouped low on the target.

There's 4 favorable posts about it in this 2 page thread: --->>> https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-bps-from-cabellas.351655/page-2#post-4441592

And: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/uberti-cattleman-percussion.796841/#post-10156374

The new gun below was fired for the first time after the 2:50 mark.

 

[Tommygunn]

Can you clarify. Is this a Colt Single Action Army.
Normally a cartridge gun. I have one, but I’ve heard they are made for the Euro market with a percussion cylinder.

He means the cap & ball version. It was made for the European market, but it is available here too. I have no use for them myself, .... but "to each his own."

 

[James84]

I don't recall any issues with the Uberti 1873 Cattleman percussion.
They received very good reviews.
The only real negative is about difficulty capping them.
The cylinder has a bushing to help keep out fouling and if a cap comes loose it won't jam the gun.
If the cylinder pin were a problem then it can be wiped / lubed when the cylinder is removed for loading.
They're also very accurate although a couple folks indicated that it grouped low on the target.

There's 4 favorable posts about it in this 2 page thread: --->>> https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-bps-from-cabellas.351655/page-2#post-4441592

And: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/uberti-cattleman-percussion.796841/#post-10156374

The new gun below was fired for the first time after the 2:50 mark.

Thanks for the info arctic cap.

 

[James84]

Can you clarify. Is this a Colt Single Action Army.
Normally a cartridge gun. I have one, but I’ve heard they are made for the Euro market with a percussion cylinder.

Percussion

 

[electricfactory]

Does anyone know if they make a 7 1/2" version ?

edit: I guess they do,

 

[arcticap]

The Pietta 1873 percussion came in a variety of barrel lengths including 11.25" and 9.25".

 

[woodnbow]

I don't recall any issues with the Uberti 1873 Cattleman percussion.
They received very good reviews.
The only real negative is about difficulty capping them.
The cylinder has a bushing to help keep out fouling and if a cap comes loose it won't jam the gun.
If the cylinder pin were a problem then it can be wiped / lubed when the cylinder is removed for loading.
They're also very accurate although a couple folks indicated that it grouped low on the target.

There's 4 favorable posts about it in this 2 page thread: --->>> https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-bps-from-cabellas.351655/page-2#post-4441592

And: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/uberti-cattleman-percussion.796841/#post-10156374

The new gun below was fired for the first time after the 2:50 mark.

I wonder if he might have hit closer to the point of aim if he wasn’t resting the butt on his sandbag. Also, I took one of these in trade, shot it for a while and traded it for something else. Mine shot well, exactly how well, I don’t recall, this was some time ago. They are interesting novelties and as someone noted on another thread might be a viable alternative for someone using it as a self defense pistol. They do run well, no real way to get a cap into the works, the one I had incorporated a safety notch for the firing pin between two of the chambers. For a nightstand gun or as one of a pair of nightstand guns they might be viable.

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

I won an auction for one of those a few years ago at a pretty low price.
I was interested in it as a curiosity and just to be able to say I had one, but never have gotten around to firing it.
Too many others that need my attention.
The 1851, and 1860 are balanced so well that it's hard to want to shoot another Colt C&B.
Except for the Walker and Dragoons occasionally because.... well because they're Walkers and Dragoons.

 

[electricfactory]

Dixie sells a 5.5" by Pietta and I understand there's another made by Uberti. I might be interested in a 7.5" version but I wasn't able to find a single one anywhere. Can't imagine why these would be hard to find.

 

[grter]

I would say the 1873 is better balanced than any other cap and ball revolver on the market. I would think it does not have that front heavy feel of the others. It should be quicker pointing. The Colt Peacemaker design is a home run in size, handling/ergonomics, and power as far as single action revolvers go. All the advantages and disadvantages designed in proper proportions.

 

[expat_alaska]

I would contact Uberti as to the availability of this revolver.

https://www.ubertireplicas.com/product/1873-cattleman-new-model-b-p/

Jim

 

[woodnbow]

I would contact Uberti as to the availability of this revolver.

https://www.ubertireplicas.com/product/1873-cattleman-new-model-b-p/

Jim

I’ve seen them with 4&5/8”, 5&1/2” and 7&1/2” tubes

 

[C Younger]

If it was a real good price I’d consider one. However, I like the looks and built in loading lever of a traditional style C&B though. I have a Pietta that I remove the cylinder for loading, and the pin needs wiped off occasionally due to gunk build up.

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

These revolvers were designed for the European market where it is often difficult or impossible to buy a cartridge firing revolver. The nipples, firing pin, and hole in the frame for the firing pin are offset to make it nearly impossible to convert it to firing cartridges. Frankly, without a built in loading lever like comes with most C&B revolvers, I have never been interested in having one of these.

Regarding the first video, where he mentions how he thinks the gun was proofed some place other than the factory, all guns made in Italy are proofed in government run proof houses. I have always wondered whether they were cleaned after being proofed. Been a real long time since I bought an Italian gun.

 

[James84]

Italian repros always have a brownish packing grease on them. It's always in the barrel, cylinders and most everywhere else in the gun. Its always a pain to clean off and takes some effort.

 

[expat_alaska]

Italian repros always have a brownish packing grease on them. It's always in the barrel, cylinders and most everywhere else in the gun. Its always a pain to clean off and takes some effort.

I don't know where you are getting your revolvers from, but I have purchased 5 Pietta 1851 Navies and 1 Uberti 1848 WH Dragoon in the past 6-7 years (all new-in-box) from various dealers, and they come in a plastic bag swimming in a fairly clear oil.

YMMV.

Regards,

Jim

 

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy Again

With the exception of my EuroArms Remmie, which I bought brand-spanky new in 1975, and my Uberti Navy, which I bought brand-spanky new in 1968, most of my Italian revolvers were purchased used, so no idea what was coating them when they were new. I did buy a pair of Pietta 1860 Army Cap & Ball revolvers new about 10 years ago or so, I do remember they were covered with something oily, but don't remember what color it was. Looking back at my Remington from 1975 and my Uberti Navy from 1968, I have no idea what kind of oil, if any, was on them when I opened the boxes. Heck, I can't even remember if I shampooed this morning in the shower.

And by the way, Single Action Army and SAA are registered trademarks of the Colt company. Unless it says Colt on it, it is not a SAA or a Single Action Army. All the replica manufacturers know Colt will sue the pants off them if they use trademarked Colt names.

 

[shunka]

Like many folks, I too got one "cheap" because they were "differrent". Also, I wanted a cheap "Model P" platform to learn internals tuning.
I found , like everybody else, they are a pain to load LOL, but if one matches the cylinder throat to the bore, they can be remarkably accurate.
I also found that mine, at least , had a much smoother action than any of my "normal" C&B revolvers, which has led me to examine a number of issues with the :"out of the box" C&B pistols, especially the hammer roller.

Howdy
These revolvers were designed for the European market where it is often difficult or impossible to buy a cartridge firing revolver. The nipples, firing pin, and hole in the frame for the firing pin are offset to make it nearly impossible to convert it to firing cartridges. Frankly, without a built in loading lever like comes with most C&B revolvers, I have never been interested in having one of these......

Monsiuer Johnson hit the nail on the head! I expect the wonderful makers in Italy were quite surprised when they found a "niche market" in the U.S. .for these "neverwas pistols" . These are very popular in the U.K. , somewhat in France and Spain, but there is a huge market in Hungary and the surrounding regions. It seems the C&B muzzleloading pistols are exempt in some way there and they sell like hotcakes, especially these Model 1873 C&B revovlers, and especially in the short barrel "shopkeeper" style.

Go figure.
shunka

 

[Mike OTDP]

These are very popular in the U.K. , somewhat in France and Spain, but there is a huge market in Hungary and the surrounding regions. It seems the C&B muzzleloading pistols are exempt in some way there...

European laws concerning muzzle-loading firearms vary greatly by country. In Hungary, it's like the U.S. - they aren't considered firearms at all (but the powder is controlled). The Germans don't consider single-shot muzzle loaders firearms, but a revolver requires paperwork. The U.K. - well, they paper everything there, except antiques that are not being shot.

 

[James84]

I don't know where you are getting your revolvers from, but I have purchased 5 Pietta 1851 Navies and 1 Uberti 1848 WH Dragoon in the past 6-7 years (all new-in-box) from various dealers, and they come in a plastic bag swimming in a fairly clear oil.

YMMV.

Regards,

Jim

I own a total of 4 bp revolvers which have come from Midway usa, EMF company and cabelas. They have all had a thick brown residue in the barrels, chambers and even around the frame. My Lyman Deerstalker also had the same brown grease. Ballistol always works best in cleaning it up before the first time i shoot them.