I don't see how it could be considered positive that all crime is down except violent crime. It seems to mean that the criminals aren't robbing for quick cash, they're attacking people out of sheer misanthropy. I'd call that a very alarming development actually.
UK violent crime at highest level ever...
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BeLikeTrey
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Precisely
There has to be a point when people say "we were wrong" banning something that can even the playing field between crooks and commoners was a bad idea. So when are we going to see a realization? do we have number (line in the sand?) or maybe a NEW law for criminals to disobey is needed
Or mebbe there will just be yet another "revamping" of how crimes are recorded again.
remember if you keep revamping it will be impossible to track trends... Good idea eh? may help to keep flawed policy and politicians around
There has to be a point when people say "we were wrong" banning something that can even the playing field between crooks and commoners was a bad idea. So when are we going to see a realization? do we have number (line in the sand?) or maybe a NEW law for criminals to disobey is needed
Or mebbe there will just be yet another "revamping" of how crimes are recorded again.
remember if you keep revamping it will be impossible to track trends... Good idea eh? may help to keep flawed policy and politicians around
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Maybe they should ban pubs!
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There is a certain amount of "medication" that most people need to make everything else "tolerable". Take away the alcohol and england would crumble
but that does seem to be the next logical progression given the rest of the legislation there
There is a certain amount of "medication" that most people need to make everything else "tolerable". Take away the alcohol and england would crumble
but that does seem to be the next logical progression given the rest of the legislation there
The interesting thing is...
Traditionally, the government has always quoted the Police Reported Crime statistics, which have always been lower than the British Crime Survey statistics.
Funny how that now the BCS statistics are lower, they are using them instead...
(Of course, to be fair, the Opposition/newspapers always quote whichever is higher).
Traditionally, the government has always quoted the Police Reported Crime statistics, which have always been lower than the British Crime Survey statistics.
Funny how that now the BCS statistics are lower, they are using them instead...
(Of course, to be fair, the Opposition/newspapers always quote whichever is higher).
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When they say "firearms offences", is that referring to violent crime committed with the aid of a firearm? Or does it include those previously law-abiding citizens who either neglected or refused to comply fully with new and changing firearms laws and were made into criminals because of it?
P95Carry
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DW - I would say that cases of this are relatively minimal - even since 1997 when handguns went in - I am not aware of any major numbers of prosecutions for failure to comply.
My best guess is figures relate almost exclusively to possession/use etc by criminals.
dleong
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Would it be politically incorrect for one to inquire about the correlation between the increase in England's violent crime rate and the surge in immigration from third-world countries?
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I think it also includes threats/robberies where the criminal used a replic gun.
(If you want to see a ridiculous (pseudohoplophobic?) report on such a crime, look here: http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.u...16651&method=full&siteid=50100-name_page.html. I did write (email) to them a few weeks ago, and they even published my letter http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.u...02151&method=full&siteid=50100-name_page.html, but obviously didn't pay attention. What a waste of trying-depsarately-not-to-be-really-sarcastic-or-insulting.)
(If you want to see a ridiculous (pseudohoplophobic?) report on such a crime, look here: http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.u...16651&method=full&siteid=50100-name_page.html. I did write (email) to them a few weeks ago, and they even published my letter http://icsouthlondon.icnetwork.co.u...02151&method=full&siteid=50100-name_page.html, but obviously didn't pay attention. What a waste of trying-depsarately-not-to-be-really-sarcastic-or-insulting.)
P95Carry
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Probably, well on THR anyways - as we try to stay clear of contentious and potentially racialist issues. They tend to quite quickly degenerate from past experience!dleong said:
You could maybe broach this subject on Armed Polite Society and explore further.
Maybe not totally on topic, except another sign that the UK has flipped its wig:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4697461.stm
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"label of failure could undermine pupils' enthusiasm."
or lack of such label, undermine a pupils incentive NOT TO FAIL...
but thats just too obvious and simple... we'll need some expensive psycho-analyst to come up with a better way.
or lack of such label, undermine a pupils incentive NOT TO FAIL...
but thats just too obvious and simple... we'll need some expensive psycho-analyst to come up with a better way.
ER doctors in London have decided that there are too many people coming in with stabbing injuries. Apparently gun control is working...
The docs are now suggesting that 'pointy knives' and 'sharp knives' be banned to help with this problem. Cutlery Control will work as well as Gun Control.
I would imagine stock in steak restaurants have dropped significantly.
The docs are now suggesting that 'pointy knives' and 'sharp knives' be banned to help with this problem. Cutlery Control will work as well as Gun Control.
I would imagine stock in steak restaurants have dropped significantly.
And further down the page in the same article:
Note also, the teachers' group in question is described as "one of the smaller organisations for teachers"
As for the suggested Long Pointed Kitchen Knife Ban, the responses on the BMJ website, mostly from other doctors, were almost entierly of the "*** are you thinking?" sort. http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/330/7502/1221#108304
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Well good they should be saying *** are you thinking
Wish they would have done that with the proposed ban on firearms before the general law abiding public was rendered impotent in their own defense. now of these "knife woundings" how many were in self defense?
Wish they would have done that with the proposed ban on firearms before the general law abiding public was rendered impotent in their own defense. now of these "knife woundings" how many were in self defense?
The REAL Problem is the Moral People...
Now, if nobody had morals, nobody would be offended. We just need to live barbaric, unethical, immoral lives. Then, we'd fit in with the "criminal element", and said same would cease to exist by definition, because we'd all be the same. We could even begin a new internet forum..."THELOWROAD".
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Now, if nobody had morals, nobody would be offended. We just need to live barbaric, unethical, immoral lives. Then, we'd fit in with the "criminal element", and said same would cease to exist by definition, because we'd all be the same. We could even begin a new internet forum..."THELOWROAD".
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