Unintended Consequences of Colorado’s New Gun Laws

[MErl]

The new CO gun laws are unenforceable and pointless. In the suit to have the new CO gun laws repealed 54 of 64 sheriffs signed a petition saying the laws are unenforceable and illegal under the second amendment.

Oh the law has a point. The one we've been discussing.

Unenforceable, sure, but can you buy a mag 10 pack from DSG? Seems like the law is working. It is exactly what was stated while passing, those who obey laws get *censored* while those that the law should target will work around it. Since it is so obvious that is the effect one must conclude that we, the law abiding folks, are the actual target of this law.

I have little faith in the courts reversing this as mag bans exist elsewhere after challenges. We shall see if this can be reversed at the ballot box but I'm not too hopeful that such a reversal would pass even if the majority party is changed.

 

[Trisha]

Colorado could well make history if both prominent D's under recall are voted out with such a majority that not even the dead vote could be statistically significant.

Then in the next two elections, sponsor and elect individual candidates solely on merit, not PARTY.

Never again. Never forget one word.

Long live New Media.

 

[henschman]

The main consequence will be massive disobedience of the law by Coloradoans. I know from first hand experience that this is already occurring. I consider it a very positive trend.

 

[PabloJ]

I think CZ sells a handgun for which the standard magazine is 18 for a 9mm and 16 for a .40. Did it become impossible to legally sell them (the pistols) in Colorado overnight?

What if I have an AR/AK in hock with my 20-30 round magazines with it? Can I now not redeem the rifle or can I redeem just the rifle and I have to give up the magazines?

Did this law just, if not ban, at least make it pointless to purchase any weapon for which the standard magazine is 15 plus rounds?

Regardless where you live when you buy high capacity stuff it should always be under assumption that you will be permanently stuck with them.

 

[Old Fuff]

The main consequence will be massive disobedience of the law by Coloradoans. I know from first hand experience that this is already occurring. I consider it a very positive trend.

Unquestionably true in some circles. I am reminded of the 55 MPH speed limited that the national government forced onto most states to save gasoline.

Didn't work did it?

Colorado's state government can (and probably will) try to enforce the law by running sting operations and various kinds of entrapment. This will do nothing more then give the news media something to jabber about, and help insure that rural districts will for the most part, take it out on Democrat candidates in the next election and maybe onward.

 

[Black Butte]

Colorado's state government can (and probably will) try to enforce the law by running sting operations and various kinds of entrapment.

You can always count on Bloomberg to run out-of-state sting operations!

 

[Trunk Monkey]

I mentioned this earlier but no one seems to have picked up on it.

The day the law went into effect someone pointed out to me that while the law sets the limit at 15 round magazines for some weapons in practice that actually means a ten round magazine because 15 rounders don't exist and it doesn't look like anyone is rushing to make them

 

[MErl]

That's an intended consequence and what was actually desired. The only reason it was bumped to 15 is due to handguns, most of which are standard at 15 or less.

Your AR/AK being limited to 10 because nobody makes a 15, working as intended. It was pointed out to our lawmakers that nobody makes 15 round AR mags, another point that was ignored. If there is enough market someone will make 15 round blocked mags. Take a 20 rounder and fill the bottom 1/4 with epoxy, done. I do not see people willing to pay for blocked mags when pre-July_1_2013 will be available for quite some time. Even if illegal to obtain, the response is still "Prove I didn't have it."

 

[Field Tester]

You are correct in the sense that magazine manufacturers like Magpul use a quality control date stamp on their magazines (many others do not). A lot of people don't realize that this stamp is on the PMAGS since it isn't very obvious unless you go looking for it. But, even with that said, there's no requirement that a magazine has a date stamp, and removing a date stamp is not a criminal offense... it isn't like a serial number on a firearm. Are you following my logic here so far? There's always a way around this stupid law.



The Colorado law requires that the magazine can't be readily converted to take more than 15 rounds. As such, I don't think the idea you mentioned will work for folks in this state.

I've seen it with a metal 30 rounder. A block is bead welded so it is technically perminant but can be removed if need be to nake it a 30 rounder again.