Unsupported trade-in with Ruger?

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"...and is now at Ruger to be scrapped as an unsupported trade in on a Match Champion w/adj sights."

This was in another currently running thread and I found it intriguing. What's an "unsupported trade"? Of course, I understand the word TRADE but it's the unsupported portion making me curious.

Todd.
 
A model no longer supported by Ruger. If you send something in for repair that they can't fix, they will usually offer you a current firearm as a replacement. Have heard of it happening with the original .44 carbines, 10/22 magnum, six series revolvers, etc.
 
yep, i called about a refinish job on my service six. they said they would only take it on trade for a gp100, sp101, lcr, ect. they said my cost would be according to what i choose, i would have to pay certain amount on trade. i declined.
 
It's no secret that the price is roughly half of MSRP, which is a deal you won't beat otherwise and is painless for Ruger. I had a lot of money tied up in that Police Service Six, but could not find a 4", 38 Special barrel to fit fixed sights after months of searching for something used, let alone new. Security Six is a different barrel. Speed Six not so sure, but most of any of them were 357 Magnum stampings. In reality, my out of pocket exceeds $1000, but part of that was write-off and part was a pretty good trade in offer for junk. The Service Six was just bad luck or getting stuck on an auction. It looked nice enough but wouldn't group for shucks.
 
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So what did they offer and How much money did they want?
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I had to talk them into a straight up free GP100 with those rosewood grips from the WC model at the time. They also came with the regular grips. I would have preferred the Speed 9 to be fixed. But there was "discussion" to get to the final resolution from the opportunity to buy it at cost.
 
I wouldn't count on a free replacement as a regular offer. I guess there is a lot more to your story.
 
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I wouldn't count on a free replacement as a regular offer. I guess there is a lot more to your story.
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Not really. I advocated for my case, and stressed the market value of a Speed 9, and or replacement value and rarity of this particular model. I was told that the barrel had been improperly torqued, or the wrong lube used when originally torqued.

They said this could cause a failure in the future. I would have to have signed a release to get it back, but that planted a seed in my mind, and I did not want to take the risk of the thing blowing up in my face. I suppose they, in the long run, did not either. Hey, you won't get what you don't ask for.

Just don't be a D-bag and cop an attitude, or come across as having an attitude. Little sugar goes a long way. I suppose I also got the right person on the right day, perhaps not all my stellar negotiating skills. :)

I would not assume a free replacement either, and I didn't in this case. It just worked out in my favor. YMMV.
 
They assessed your gun as originally defective as "the rest of the story". Mine was just worn out.
 
Ruger won't let any gun leave their factory that is not up to their current standards. That is to protect themselves from law suits if they return a defective gun and there is some kind of damage due to its being defective. The upshot is that if you send in a gun for repair and they can't repair it (obsolete model, totally wrecked, or whatever) they will make you an offer to send you a new gun at a deep discount (or very rarely, at no cost). If you have an old or damaged gun that you don't want to give up, best to contact Ruger before shipping the gun and make sure you will get it back. Otherwise, be prepared to accept their discount offer.

Jim
 
i have two Ruger P guns, a P85 and an excellent KP90DC. I'm SOL on parts if I ever need one, I guess, unless I can get it from Numrich Arms. I broke a magazine release spring on the P90 and Ruger sent me one in the mail free of charge about 8 years ago. I do NOT want one of their current autos, don't care for 'em.

I own another SOL Ruger, an Old Army. I ain't givin' THAT one up, either! Besides, they don't have a damned thing similar short of a Blackhawk and I have two Blackhawks already.
 
<snip>If you have an old or damaged gun that you don't want to give up, best to contact Ruger before shipping the gun and make sure you will get it back. Otherwise, be prepared to accept their discount offer.
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My experience was that I was given the option (before I sent it in) of getting the gun back, not defective necessarily, just shooting poorly after apparently considerable use before I got it. The point of sending it in was to find out what it would cost for a replacement. I already knew I needed and wanted another gun, but Ruger would not quote a price without the scrap candidate gun in hand. Not quite following why they have to be so coy about it.

I will take credit for not selling the old gun and passing a poor shooter on to someone else. That integrity did cost me some significant money though. The good part is that I would not have justified getting a Match Champion otherwise.
 
i have two Ruger P guns, a P85 and an excellent KP90DC. I'm SOL on parts if I ever need one, I guess, unless I can get it from Numrich Arms. I broke a magazine release spring on the P90 and Ruger sent me one in the mail free of charge about 8 years ago. I do NOT want one of their current autos, don't care for 'em.

I own another SOL Ruger, an Old Army. I ain't givin' THAT one up, either! Besides, they don't have a damned thing similar short of a Blackhawk and I have two Blackhawks already.
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Numrich had no barrels for any of the Six series guns. Months on GB turned up no Service Six barrels stamped "38 Special".
 
At least Ruger said "hey we messed up." Alot of companies have elaborate policies to reduce having to repair a defective gun.

Read the bushmaster repair policy. if your 1200 dollar rifle suddenly becomes defective, like say the mag well starts cracking, if they find a scratch on the handguard they can technically say your "sol for obviously damaging the weapon because that scratch is sign of user abuse"
 
Read the bushmaster repair policy. if your 1200 dollar rifle suddenly becomes defective, like say the mag well starts cracking, if they find a scratch on the handguard they can technically say your "sol for obviously damaging the weapon because that scratch is sign of user abuse"
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Is that your interpretation of their policy, or do you know someone who has actually had a similar experience? FWIW, if one is speding $1200 on an AR, Bushmaster isn't a brand I'd be looking at.
 
Have you read it? the bushmaster policy is a tad nutty. They can refuse to give you a refund just because the rifle you send back in SMELLS TO STRONGLY of COLOGNE.
 
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