US born Islamic terrorist urges purchase of local firearms to commit mass murder

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...y_firearms_american_al_qaeda_tells_jihad.html

Notorious "American Al Qaeda" Adam Gadahn is urging terrorist sympathizers in the United States to launch personal jihads with locally purchased weapons.

"America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms," the California-born terrorist declares on a videotaped message just released on the Internet.

"You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check and most likely without having to show an identification card.

"So what are you waiting for?" he concludes in perfect, unaccented English.


This is likely to be picked up by antis soon to promote further restriction of firearms.
 
I'd just LOVE for anti-gunners to try to use the WRONG statements of a TERRORIST to try to deceive the public.

I'll make them ENVY Anthony WEINER's troubles.
 
Fully automatic rifle without ID or a background check, he is clearly misinformed. Yet the sentiment is still the same, purchase weapons in the US for use in Jihad against the US.

It will be the next soundbite of closing the private sales 'loophole', to bring all transfers under government oversight.
 
So now the terrorists are after our gun rights... by making all the anti's think that full autos can be picked up for a song.

I thought this was a joke at first, is that million bucks dead or alive? Anyone wanna take a trip to Pakastan?
 
"You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check and most likely without having to show an identification card.
:rolleyes: :D Go ahead and try it. Apparently intelligence is not a prerequisite to being a terrorist. :p
 
Picked up by anti's or planted by...

I agree

Even if you were OK with breaking the law, it's far from easy to obtain a full auto firearm for people in normal circles.

I've been immersed in the gun culture for almost 20 of my 29 years on this planet, and I still wouldn't know where to quickly obtain an illegal MG. It's not like you can just drive downtown to your local illicit arms bazaar. I'm sure one could probably start asking around in th red light districts and maybe score.........or maybe get caught by an undercover cop/agent..........or maybe get killed by a thug thinking you're the undercover cop.
 
Picked up by anti's or planted by...

They should be arrested as terrorists.
When can we start the waterboarding and the Rack?
:rolleyes:

That tape is just a piece of propaganda, trying to get the people to be scared of a bogeyman.
 
This really isn't the first time that Al-Q has made this type of claim.
 
I hope a drone sends this guy on a dirt-nap soon, but in principle he's not wrong. Maybe not fully automatic weapons, but I frequently worry about individual jihadis, who have never been in trouble, legally purchasing weapons (with an NCIS check) and randomly opening fire.
 
3-words for his "followers" BA-RING-IT ,, Hope I am nearby when they attempt this kind of cowardly-attack,,Why would our media even cover this story ? It gives it some kind of sensationalism,and may give one of "them" a chance to suceed therefore putting more scrutiny upon us legal gun owners,,
 
And you answered your own question - they run a story like this so they can scream, "See, the terrorists know and they're going to exploit the gunshow loophole/private purchase loophole/Second Amendment loophole, we need to stop this now! For the children!"
 
come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check

I wonder if this is less an error and actually an intentional misstatement to create controversy within the US.

Of course, the guy was from California and probably never touched a gun until leaving the US and joining A lQaeda.
 
There's two issues here.

One is the automatic weapons at gun shows which we all know is BS. But, he obviously gets his info from the mainstream media which constantly repeats that lie.

The other issue is entirely possible and long overdue. How long until some terrorist (or a small group of terrorists) walks into a crowded Christmas time mall with semi-auto AK's or AR's and starts shooting people? It would be a bloodbath. The police would just cordon off the area and wait for tactical units. In many states there are no CCW carriers, so the only opposition would be a few security guards who may or may not be armed.
 
Seeing as the security guards are hired by corporations whose sole purpose is to make money ... They won't be. It costs less to turn a "guard" into a "witness" than it does providing tangible and effective security measures.

But yes, the question has been long overdue. How long will it be until any terrorist waltzes into a mall and opens fire with anything? That's the price we pay though for being allowed to own guns. There really is nothing to do about it. Other than to infringe on everyone's rights because of what someone might do, of course.
 
"So what are you waiting for?" he concludes in perfect, unaccented English.
If they were going to do it, they would've done it. Adam Gadahn's statements are just an admission of the weakness of his organization.
 
Hopefully everyone will remember to point out that the "easy availability" of guns is also a deterrent to terrorists - except in places such as New York City that prohibits the general population from having any viable means of self defense. :uhoh:

On the other hand it’s likely that a similar attack in many places in Arizona would be short lived.
 
Why doesn't somebody tickle this guy? Anybody advocating mass murder obviously needs to be tickled.
 
The other issue is entirely possible and long overdue. How long until some terrorist (or a small group of terrorists) walks into a crowded Christmas time mall with semi-auto AK's or AR's and starts shooting people? It would be a bloodbath. The police would just cordon off the area and wait for tactical units. In many states there are no CCW carriers, so the only opposition would be a few security guards who may or may not be armed.

this and the ganger's who fear nothing, are the reason that when the winter coat season starts i chose going to crowded places as if they were hot zones. since 9/11 it has seemed problematical that malls would be on the terrorists to do list. thus if i do go, i wear something that i am competent with to 25 yards ( defender or p239/40) such that i would be able to pick a target from cover...doing my best to observe so that i am not in the 1st group when they open fire. no 'mall-ninja' am i ; just want to shop and leave the same as i arrived: unscathed.
though situational awareness is always running in the background, its a conscious thing when in a crowd. no paranoia here..im just looking at what im seeing.

besides him needing a bullet implant, that he uses info the press disseminates that is false, for the press toreport, that sorta quoting its own falsehoods. and the antes love it...
or perhaps are in bed with it.
 
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Jimmy Carter destroyed our covert international reprisal capability. We need to resurrect that and take the offensive against these people.
 
One is the automatic weapons at gun shows which we all know is BS.

There are tons of them, as well as DD's, SBR's, AOW's, etc. But unless you're an SOT, you're not walking out with one that day.

How long will it be until any terrorist waltzes into a mall and opens fire with anything? That's the price we pay though for [strike]being allowed to own guns[/strike] going out in public

Fixed that for ya.

One, it's a fundamental right, not an allowance. Secondly, where has prohibiting law abiding citizens from owning arms ever stopped the criminals from obtaining and using them?

I'm truly surpised to see a comment like yours here, and especially in the context of terrorists, who managed to pull off the worst attack in history with some planning, coordination, and tools a 5 year old can buy at Target.

Personally, I'd much rather they come at us head-on with guns than with cars in underground parking structures loaded with explosives. At least then we can see the threat and have some chance of dealing with it.
 
I think you're reading way too much into my comment.

Not Picking up on some minor word usage here doesn't make me an anti, I swear.
 
I think its always been a fear of the US Govt that they would try and get like 10 groups of 2 to go in malls during the Christmas season and just kill as many people as possible causing massive fear and would be very damaging to the US economy.

Its all to convenient that this is coming out after the whole thing with the Patriot Act having a amendment to ban firearms sales to anyone on the watch list(lets watch them and tip them off where watching them).
 
Looks like the message from Al Qaeda to potential Jihadis is "Try your worse but you're on your own guys, don't expect any support from us, we've got our own troubles."
 
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