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A Light Goes on at the CDC

October 22, 2003, 9:11 a.m.
A Light Goes on at the CDC
No escaping gun-control reality.

By Timothy Wheeler

In a marvelous moment of candor, a federal Centers for Disease Control (CDC) committee has reported that it cannot find any evidence that gun-control laws reduce violent crime. American gun owners spent most of the 1990s telling the CDC that gun control is ineffective at best and harmful at worst. So it's gratifying that the lesson is finally sinking in.

A task force convened by the CDC issued its report after two years of poring over 51 scientific studies of gun laws. The group considered only research papers that met strict criteria for scientific soundness. The CDC distances itself with a disclaimer, but it's pretty clear that it supports the task force's conclusions. The report contains no dissenting position or minority view from CDC managers.

Covered in the review were gun-ban laws, restrictions on acquiring a gun, waiting periods for buying a gun, firearm-registration laws, firearm-owner licensing laws, concealed-carry permit laws, zero-tolerance laws, and various combinations of firearm laws. Most Americans who haven't tried to buy a gun lately are blissfully unaware of just how many laws there are. In Washington, D.C., for example, it's impossible for a regular citizen to legally own a firearm (although criminals seem to have no problem getting one). In other cities the legal hoops a gun buyer must jump through are almost as much a barrier to ownership as an outright ban.

One would think that at least some good would come from all these laws. Researchers should be able to prove that the laws prevent at least a few murders, rapes, and robberies. Amazingly, they can't. And even more amazingly, they have admitted that they can't.

But what about the violent crimes that gun-control laws have allowed by preventing victims from defending themselves? This well-known downside to gun-control laws keeps showing itself over and over again. For example, during the 1992 Los Angeles riots, frantic Angelenos rushed to gun stores to arm themselves against marauding thugs. Many were outraged to discover California's 15-day waiting period for buying a gun.

A woman stalked by a homicidal ex-husband is left completely vulnerable by waiting-period laws. These supposedly provide a "cooling off" period for impulsive people who would buy a gun and in the heat of passion, commit a crime with it. Such a patronizing law cruelly imperils a stalked woman, who desperately needs the protection that only a firearm can give her.

And looking at Washington, D.C.'s reputation as the violent-crime capital, how could we think that its gun ban law was ever worth anything? Does anyone really believe that justice is served by disarming good citizens when violent criminals so obviously ignore the ban? Barring gun ownership by good people is worse than useless. It perverts justice by enabling violent felons while turning into outlaws people who dare to own a gun for legitimate self-protection.

America has laws that ban handguns. We have laws that ban big, expensive guns and other laws that ban small, cheap guns. We have laws that condemn some guns as illegal simply on the basis of their appearance. Other laws force average people to be fingerprinted to carry a firearm for self-protection, even though years of experience show such demeaning measures to be unnecessary.

The laws are so numerous and so dauntingly complex that in some cases even law enforcement authorities can't figure out what they mean. Such a confusing web of legal traps can easily ensnare an honest citizen.

In all, America has 20,000 laws that endanger, humiliate, criminalize, or otherwise burden good citizens who exercise their constitutional right to own a gun. Now the CDC, a government agency not known for its friendliness to gun owners, reports that it cannot find any evidence that the laws are effective.

We should take warning from the closing comments of the CDC task force's report. They are reminiscent of the agency's glory days of gun-control advocacy. America is described as an "outlier" in gun-crime rates among industrialized nations. The report insists "research should continue on the effectiveness of firearms laws as one approach to the prevention or reduction of firearms violence and firearms injury." In other words, keep researching until we find the conclusion we prefer — guns are bad and they should be banned.

Liberal reformers who would curb the freedom of others are obliged to prove the efficacy of gun-control laws. They have failed to do so. Gun owners have always known that gun-control laws aimed at them instead of criminals are futile and unjust. Now that everybody else is finally getting it, perhaps it's time for a moratorium on new gun laws.

— Timothy Wheeler, M.D. is director of Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership, a project of the Claremont Institute.
 
Give them a returnable shotgun!

Personally, I'd hope that shops in states that at least have no waiting period for long arms will be smart enough to reccomend a shotgun to women who are being stalked.

Were I a (wealthy, and successful, I know odds are slim) FFL who could afford it, I'd consider keeping something on hand like a few used 20 gauge autos with youth stocks and sell them to anyone (most likely women) who could show me thier copy of an order of protection from a court. I'd train them in loading and unloading with snap caps, then have them fire a few practice rounds on the range I would hopefully have. I would also supply them with one of those shotgun finger-button action cover vaults.

The shotgun and it's vault would then be returnable for a 100% in-store credit twoards a pistol purchase, quick access push-button gunvault type handgun safe, or a CCW/firearms class.

I'd make this "program" unofficially known to the local police officers, gun instructors, and any non-anti women's shelter programs I could find who might know women in this pickle. I'd also tactfully ask any woman shopping in my store for a personal protection firearm if she was in such a situation.

If someone had told Bonnie Elmasri she could get a shotgun same day in WI, or simply lent her one, she might be alive today. WI only has a two day wait on handguns, unfortunately it was 24 hours too long..

On March 5, 1991 Bonnie Elmasri called a firearms instructor, worried that her husband-who was subject to a restraining order to stay away from her-had been threatening her and her children. When she asked the instructor about getting a handgun, the instructor explained that Wisconsin has a 48-hour waiting period. Ms. Elmasri and her two children were murdered by her husband twenty-four hours later.
 
Interesting and a useful for countering the standard American Medical Association rhetoric I suppose. On the other hand I think doctors have as much business addressing and analyzing violent crime on an official basis as I do practicing medicine and prescribing drugs.
 
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But apparently pigs are flying. I wonder how VPC/BradyCenter will spin this one? "SAVE THE CHILDREN! Even though this law won't save the children, we need to pass it anyway because guns are EVIL and EVIL destroys children." A better course of action for the creeps in charge of anti-gun policy would be to keep the antis ignorant of it.
 
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Even though this law won't save the children, we need to pass it anyway because guns are EVIL and EVIL destroys children
I recall a political cartoon I saw about 10 years ago. There were two side-by-side, nearly identical panels of a guy reading a newspaper.

In the first, the headline read, "Gun deaths down following xyz gun law" and the guy was saying, "See, this proves we need more gun control!"

In the second, the headline read, "Gun deaths up following xyz gun law" and the guy was saying, "See, this proves we need more gun control!"
 
Mmmm, OK, Doc. You can "counsel" me on firearms after I "counsel" you on cardiac replacement surgery.
 
fwiw, i use the data from the CDC regarding firearm deaths all the time. no one can accuse their statistics of being biased for our side, and they arent exaggerated like the stats the VPC or Brady campaign uses.
nowhere have i seen the CDC trying to say that 'guns are bad' or advocating people to give up their guns. maybe i missed those parts of the National Vital Statistic Reports they host.
 
My "program"

tyme, no offense, but I think you were skimming what I posted...

Were I an FFL, helping someone in danger "get around" a handgun wait with a shotgun, I would sell the woman the shotgun, have her fill out a 4473, and run her through NICS (assuming she's lucky enough for it to be "instant") just like anyone else. I also mentioned I'd like some proof to do this, like a copy of a valid restraining order with the woman's name on it.

The understanding is that the shotgun is returnable for 100% in-store credit twoards a handgun, CCW or safety class fee, or a gunvault. It's not just "given away".

Nothing illegal, or any enhanced liability about that. I would also be incorporated were I an FFL, and would be willing to risk the corporation to help people with RKBA issues if it comes to that. I would probably consult the services of an attorney to limit whatever legal exposure I could, but if she passes NICS, I fail to see what the liabiliy exposure would be compared to any other sale.

If it were me, private citizen, (a.k.a. "reality") I'd only do this with an existing gun in my collection, and only to a family member or a friend. I wouldn't go and buy a shotgun just at the time said person needed it, to avoid any suspicion of a "strawman purchase" even though buying a gun from an FFL as a gift is legal.
 
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Maybe now they will have time to adress something like...hhmmm....Medical Malpractice...which kills more people than guns!
 
Since when is the CDC charged with researching firearms issues? I
didn't know firearms were a disease, though the classification isn't
exactly unexpected given the way things are going.

Doesn't the CDC have enough to do keeping track of all the new microbes
making their American debut?
 
One would think that at least some good would come from all these laws. Researchers should be able to prove that the laws prevent at least a few murders, rapes, and robberies. Amazingly, they can't. And even more amazingly, they have admitted that they can't.

We told you so.
 
I'm confused. I thought the CDC's main priorities were to fend off
rumors that illegal immigration posed an epidemiological threat and
to make sure no one used the locutions "AIDS" and morality in the same
paragraph.

I'm glad they've discovered a crusade they can live with.
 
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