Value of CZ75 Pre-B?

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What would be the approximate value of an all matching numbers, excellent condition, early 1980s, non-import marked CZ75 pre-B with two original factory mags and original waffle grips but no factory box. If it matters mags are numbered but the numbers don't match the CZ.
 
Depending on he finish I would personally pay $350 - $400. This would be "out the door" price, I wouldn't pay that plus shipping, and transfer, etc. With slight to moderate finish wear, I would pay $250 - $300. This all assumes no rust or pitting and excellent mechanical shape.
 
It will depend on the demand in your area. I've seen them sell (and have bought them) for as little as $350 in top shape, and for as much as $650. I've sold a couple in the top end.

Pre-Bs are nice, but you have to be willing to deal with several downsides for those guns:

1) New hi-cap mags (for the 75Bs) may not (probably won't) work in the gun. Many of the older 15-round mags will. The inside of the grips can be opened up pretty easily, so that the newer mags will work, but that'll be a needed step.

2) Some parts, like pieces in the safety mechanism of the older models, are getting very scarce, and those models can't use newer design parts in their place. Slide stops are another hard-to-replace part. A new slide stop may work, but won't necessarily lock the slide back. And, iIf you damage those original grips, be prepared to do something different. Newer grips WILL work, but will not look authentic. (Never a problem for me. I like the soft-rubber factory grips.) If you're willing to sell the waffle grips, you can probably buy some very nice custom wood grips with money left over.

3) Sights for the older pre-Bs are staked at front, and use a different dovetail at the rear. If you want different sights, you'll have to have a gunsmith do some work.​

Most of the pre-Bs have great triggers, but you can get that type of trigger with a new CZ and a little gunsmith work... and still have a very good warranty. (I highly recommend the CZ Custom Shop.)

I have had MANY CZs over the years, both B and pre-B (25+?), and I just don't go the pre-B route any more. I might be seduced again, with one at a low-enough price, but I won't pay a premium because it's a pre-B.

$400-$450 might be a good offer for the one you describe, and go from there -- that's about the price you'd expect to pay for a good used "B" model.
 
I'd buy a pre-B if its purpose was to serve as an additional house gun or a truck gun. In this role, I would need just one magazine, and slide stops, sights, grips, etc. would be a non issue.

A decent one can be had for around $300.
 
I'm not sure what it's worth today, but in the early 80's that pistol was rather hard to find & expensive when you found it. I guessing ~$350-375 around here.
 
The estimates in the $300 range are most likely for the import maked ones coming in as surplus. An unmarked Pre-B (no import marks, probably brought back by GI's from Europe or obtained prior to regular importation, around 1989 when the Iron Curtain fell) is more desireable, and less often found than import marked guns. I'd guess more in the $400-$500 range for a nice example.
 
What would be the approximate value of an all matching numbers, excellent condition, early 1980s, non-import marked CZ75 pre-B with two original factory mags and original waffle grips but no factory box. If it matters mags are numbered but the numbers don't match the CZ.
About five years ago I paid $369 for one originally imported into Canada. It came with box, two mags, target and nylon cleaning brush. Few weeks back I looked over limited issue CCCP# series gun (red star, cyrillic stampings, hammer and sickle) with black plastic box, two mags, papers for $399.99.
 
The estimates in the $300 range are most likely for the import marked ones coming in as surplus.

Yes. Such a gun would be as valuable to me as any other example; that's just for me and is based on why I would purchase it (basically a tool, one that would be fired and carried regularly and would not be wrapped in a Bore Store and pushed to the back of the safe).

If a collector were shopping for a pre-B hoping to watch its value as a collectable escalate, then he'd be ill advised to purchase a $300 surplus gun.
 
Yes. Such a gun would be as valuable to me as any other example; that's just for me and is based on why I would purchase it (basically a tool, one that would be fired and carried regularly and would not be wrapped in a Bore Store and pushed to the back of the safe).

If a collector were shopping for a pre-B hoping to watch its value as a collectable escalate, then he'd be ill advised to purchase a $300 surplus gun.
There is entire gun subculture out there that seeks this stuff out. There are guys out there that pay >$500 for Soviet era military PM. To me it's just $300 tool. If I needed another handgun I would have picked up that cyrillic marked CZ75. While I realize markings are "fake" as soviets never used anything that fine it was well worth $400 asking price.
 
Beatledog7, the OP was asking about the value of a Pre-B NON IMPORT, which is why we should differentiate. They command higher values, just about like every OTHER gun that doesn't have import marks on it (US M1 carbines, Lugers, HK's, Walthers, etc).
 
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Thanks for the comments. I think I'm going to pass on the pre-B, the asking price seemed high.
 
This is not a surplus gun, right? With the box (a purple & pinkish colored box). I have seen them in the past go for $500 and above. At one time the grips if original were going for up to $100. My buddy sold one for over $600 a couple of years ago on Gun Broker. That being said I picked up a 75B in 95% shape with one mag, no box for under $400 in September. Just a comparison. Good Luck.
 
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