Very bad tactics...

[Good Ol' Boy]

This statement kinds says it all. The fact that you think they would have been up on charges anyway indicates you feel they were in the wrong anyway. In that case, the gun had little to do with the indecent other than to make the outcome a little more deadly for the victim. Anyway, that's my take. The clip I saw made it look as if they were flat out pursuing the dude. Pure intent...

What if... the victim, was armed as well, and was more alert to the behavior of the killers? (2 big mistakes) Don't know the back story of why he was running around in that neighborhood, but he still should have been more alert, and he still could have done better at either fighting back, or just plain avoiding the two chasing him. Lesson to be learned...

Thank you posting that. Although all the facts are still not known that's more than we knew two days ago.

It certainly SEEMS as if the deceased was not as innocent as the MSM has made him out to be. What a surprise.

 

[Kleanbore]

It certainly SEEMS as if the deceased what not as innocent as the MSM has made him out to be. What a surprise.

That is completely irrelevant to the question at hand.

 

[boom boom]

@boom boom , I’d like to hear your interpretation of the Georgia statute on citizen’s arrest:


It seems improbable to claim that the accused had knowledge of a felony (because it didn’t exist - at worst under Georgia statute, Arbery’s presence at the construction sit (as evidenced by the surveillance footage) was a misdemeanor. At best - if there weren’t any “No Trespassing” signs - it wasn’t a crime at all). Without the knowledge of a felony, their pursuit (and subsequent attempt at apprehension) was not justified under Georgia law. “Suspicion” of a felony isn’t the same as the “knowledge” of a felony required under the statute.

(There’s a woman in jail in Georgia awaiting trial for manslaughter after following a hit and run driver that ended in a shooting, Her claim of citizen’s arrest was rejected because it was only a misdemeanor, not a felony.)

@boom boom , I’d like to hear your interpretation of the Georgia statute on citizen’s arrest:


It seems improbable to claim that the accused had knowledge of a felony (because it didn’t exist - at worst under Georgia statute, Arbery’s presence at the construction sit (as evidenced by the surveillance footage) was a misdemeanor. At best - if there weren’t any “No Trespassing” signs - it wasn’t a crime at all). Without the knowledge of a felony, their pursuit (and subsequent attempt at apprehension) was not justified under Georgia law. “Suspicion” of a felony isn’t the same as the “knowledge” of a felony required under the statute.

(There’s a woman in jail in Georgia awaiting trial for manslaughter after following a hit and run driver that ended in a shooting, Her claim of citizen’s arrest was rejected because it was only a misdemeanor, not a felony.)

I have a bit on the cross post, https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/what-is-exactly-is-citizens-arrest.868401/, discussing Georgia and Florida law a bit. Let me know if that answers your questions or do you have more.

 

[boom boom]

That is completely irrelevant to the question at hand.

Unfortunately in criminal law, a lot of constitutional law was made by people that had rather dubious backgrounds. However, the protections of the shady are also available for the average citizen--for the rule of law to work, it has to protect the good and no so good as long as their actions conform with the law or they cannot be proven to have breached the law.

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

That is completely irrelevant to the question at hand.

I disagree.

 

[Kleanbore]

I disagree.

How might the victim's not being "as innocent as the MSM has made him out to be" support any assumption that the defendant's had a basis for knowledge that he had just committed a felony?

 

[WTBguns10kOK]

I think the black guys tactics were very bad, as the title of this thread states. He trespassed during the day, as opposed to night and tried to fight a guy with a shotgun while unarmed himself.

 

[GEM]

After some discussion, the thread has moved away from tactics and thus is closed.