Vikings are pro "right-to-carry"

[TheArchDuke]

I'm sitting here reading "The Poetic Edda" Translated by Lee M. Hollander.

It's basically stories, histories, myths, and proverbs that the vikings used to tell in verse.

I stumbled across this stanza a moment ago....might make a good signature.


"From his weapons away, no man should ever stir one step on the field; for no one knows when need might have, on a sudden, a man of his sword."

I had to read it a few times to get exaclty what he was trying to say (not good with anything but modern English [stupid schools])
I guess it could be rearranged like this:
"No man should ever stir one step on the field away from his weapons, for one never knows when a man might have a sudden need of his sword."

Simple words of wisdom from our Viking friends.

 

[Manedwolf]

Never doubt people who were hardcore enough to cross the freaking NORTH ATLANTIC in open boats with oars.

 

[TheArchDuke]

That's about as hardcore as it gets. haha

 

[Outlaws]

lol I thought some MN Vikings got arrested on gun charges.

 

[gdvan01]

lol I thought some MN Vikings got arrested on gun charges.

Naaa, Randy Moss is with the Raiders now.

 

[Sleeping Dog]

I remember an old t-shirt from the Clinton days that read:

"It takes a Viking to raze a village"

And of course, modern Vikings should keep a sword handy, in case they have to suddenly open a can of Spam.

Regards.

 

[1911 guy]

Literary Hijack.

To keep it somewhat related, I'll mention that the whole Norse attitude was one of self reliance when at all possible, dependence on family and clan only, and then only when nesessary. Kinda fits with the outlook a lot of us have. Be prepared. Enjoy the good expect the bad.

Anyway, look up some old sagas about the Jomsburg Vikings. An infamous lot, even among vikings.

 

[Mr White]

I don't imagine there was much call for sword control in those days.

And of course, modern Vikings should keep a sword handy, in case they have to suddenly open a can of Spam.

Is that so they can make spam eggs bacon and spam, or spam eggs spam spam sausage and spam?

 

[Can'thavenuthingood]

And of course the double edged sword for spam, spam, spam, spam and spam

Vick

 

[Lupinus]

Ahem

Look at my signature, from a different translation though. When reading things that have been translated you can often get different results.

Yes I've read the edda a time or two

Those who follow Norse, Astru, Odinism, and a few other modern names for it I can't remember at the moment are by and large extremely freedom friendly and fiercely anti world goverment. Self reliance is big in viking culture and religion. The debate is still out though about being sent to hel (yes, viking hell has one L) for not dying in battle or for not living honorably, never could get quiet past that part.

 

[TheArchDuke]

Lupinus,

Fantastic!

I like that translation even better. My copy is a little difficult at times.

 

[Lupinus]

http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Edda-M..._bbs_sr_4/002-1094548-6183226?ie=UTF8&s=books

It is from that translation there. I find it quite nice and easy to follow. IMO the best way to read something like this is to get a version which may not be spot on in the translation, but is very close even if it has sacraficed a bit for readability. And then get a more literal spot on translation. Since you already know the gist of the story it will be easier to understand.

Least thats my take and view on such things.

 

[ACP230]

There's another version of they quote at the bottom of this post.

 

[Lupinus]

yeah theres a few "major" translations out there. I own two and have read blurbs from a few others. The one I by far have found the easist read is the one I linked to on amazon.

It isn't the most literal, but it holds true enough to the eddas and is loose enough to fit into english as easily readable and followable. When I want serious study on an edda I may not always reach for it, but when I want to read the poetic edda its the one I reach for.

 

[Mr White]

So its settled, then. We all become Vikings!

When I was in college, there was a tradition for all the guys in one of the dorms to have a 'Viking dinner' once a semester. They'd all dress up as much like like Vikings as they could and be obnoxious in the dining hall. It was a hoot!

 

[rangerruck]

find the object of the sentence... this is why the 2nd was written the way it was, keeps the sentence or sentences down to one sentence, and keeps it usually much shorter.

 

[X-Rap]

I'm just proud of my scandinavian and indian lineage although it's hard at times to restrain myself from scalping some of these dirty bast%^&s. A guy I worked with gave me the compliment of calling me the Berzerker after the way I would handle a construction crew.I would argue about the world government though, I think that by the end of the viking era they were the world government at least the world as they knew it. Must of been good times.

 

[TheArchDuke]

Why don't we all find out if we have any Viking blood? Then we can claim that the gun-grabbers are spitting on our heritage.

The Democrats wouldn't know WHAT to do. They wouldn't want to seem intolerant of other cultures would they?

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

The Democrats wouldn't know WHAT to do. They wouldn't want to seem intolerant of other cultures would they?

Sure they would. The Havamal is supposedly the words of the Óðinn, therefore a religious text. They would demand that we maintain the seperation between Æsir and state.

 

[Lupinus]

If you are English (not UK, English, Ireland Scotland and much of Wales don't count that would be celtic) Scandinavian, from the Normandy region of France, Iclandic or Greenland, and a few other places chances of you having viking ancestors is actually fairly high and for certian places almost a guarantee.

If you are German, Swiss, from several eastern europe countries, or *gasp* French (of all places) your ancestors were cousins as these areas were largely settled by Germanic tribes, and the people we think of today as Vikings were part of a few Germanic tribes.

 

[Outlaws]

If you are English (not UK, English, Ireland Scotland and much of Wales don't count that would be celtic) Scandinavian, from the Normandy region of France, Iclandic or Greenland, and a few other places chances of you having viking ancestors is actually fairly high and for certian places almost a guarantee.

If you are German, Swiss, from several eastern europe countries, or *gasp* French (of all places) your ancestors were cousins as these areas were largely settled by Germanic tribes, and the people we think of today as Vikings were part of a few Germanic tribes.

50% Norwegian
25% German
25% Swede

Guess I have a decent amount of Viking in me.

 

[KD5NRH]

The debate is still out though about being sent to hel (yes, viking hell has one L) for not dying in battle or for not living honorably, never could get quiet past that part.

Don't some sources still hold that the "land o' serpent venom and goat urine" is only for the wicked, and that there are much less nasty places for those who die of old age or illness?

 

[fjolnirsson]

If you are English (not UK, English, Ireland Scotland and much of Wales don't count that would be celtic) Scandinavian, from the Normandy region of France, Icelandic or Greenland, and a few other places chances of you having viking ancestors is actually fairly high and for certaien places almost a guarantee.

Actually, the vikings radied extensively throughout the isles of Scotland, and many vikings were of Irish descent, as well. Chances are, anyone of Irish or Sottish heritage have vikings in their woodpile.

I've said for years that the worldview of the vikings is very applicable to todays world. The vikings lived in a harsh, brutal world, and increasingly, so do we.

Y'all might be interested in this article about gun control, by a well known Asatruar:Stephen McNallen

 

[M67]

Vápnum sínum
skal-a maðr velli á
feti ganga framar,
því at óvíst er at vita
nær verðr á vegum úti
geirs um þörf guma.

I don't imagine there was much call for sword control in those days.

Actually there was, at least in Norway. If there was a control and you were found not to have one, or the one you had was of inferior quality, you would be fined. Some form of that law existed for a thousand years or so, IIRC the last inspection of privately owned arms in the hands of citizen-soldiers was in 1808. In theory I think the law still requires home guardsmen to provide their own equipment, but in reality the weapons as well as everything else is today supplied by the taxpayers.

BTW, there was another law, at least in part of the country, that you may find amusing. It said that if the king broke certain laws, the citizenry was required to mobilize the army, hunt down the king and kill him. That is possibly the reason for the death in battle of King (Saint) Olav in 1030. Nobody really had that much against him, it seems. But he levied some unlawful taxes on the local farmers, and the law is the law...

 

[armedandsafe]

If you think the Vikings were weapon friendly, do some research on the original Celts and Picts.

Incidently, Celts (pronounced Kelts) wear kilts, while the Celtics (pronounced Seltics) play basketball.

Pops