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Our law school class observed a demonstration of several non-lethal weapons available to local LEOs and one of them in particular stuck out at me. It was called something like a dazzler, or a bedazzler. It's basically a large flashlight that uses LED signals to confuse the brain into thinking it's been poisoned, causing nausea in a matter of seconds. The version they showed us looked like it would be easy to make at home, and a quick internet search revealed that I was correct--you can make one for around $250, as detailed in the following link. http://www.ladyada.net/make/bedazzler/

I was wondering whether anyone else has had any experience with this device. If anyone has built one or considered building one, I would like to hear about their experience and logic behind its use. Something like this, extrapolated from a handheld form, could be a potent instrument of home defense.
 
I would NEVER count on such a device to work on a random threat. I would not delay a real defense requiring lethal force to use such a device either.

An automated version might have some value, but toting one around takes up space needed for real weaponry.
 
I've been "hit" by one of those during a mild force on force exercise, and all it did was really annoy me and caused me to spray a full mag into the guy at about ten feet. Granted it was a hand held version ...
Still. I'm not sold on it.
 
Note to self: when faced with a "dazzler" shield eyes and take appropriate action in response.
 
It is effective at dazzling you, but if you are expecting a bright dazzling light..
you end up doing what Nushif said, it has it's uses, read super flashlight, but thats what it is, and all it is.
 
You only vomit when you get the credit card bill after figuring out a flashlight doesn't have super powers.
 
I don't know about the specific product, but the theory behind it is solid for a % of the population. Not everyone is equally affected. It is what you might want to use to make unruly party goers leave your home, get noisy teenagers out of your yard, but not use it for self defense.
 
And it's a legal nightmare if you cause someone to have a seizure. You'll lose everything you have to lawsuits. Each seizure increases the likelihood of the next, so you can very well start someone on a lifetime of epilepsy who otherwise might never have experienced it at all.
 
Wishful thinking.I had a taste of a portable version of the real "dazzler" and was unimpressed. There was no immediate effect. A rapidly blinking flashlight works well for disorienting, but nothing short of a vehicle mounted version of this tech produces nausea. Perhaps one day soon, but not quite yet.
 
The very best way to make someone throw up is to throw up on them. It absolutely will trigger a gag reflex in many if not most people. Chain reaction vomit is well documented at bars everywhere. So I'd suggest instead of a light, you get a device that hurls a chunk of spew at the foe.

Or better yet a durian cannon. Durian is a fruit that smells like old socks filled with fresh vomit.
 
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No, please don't, you will half of Fairview, and Spenard chasing you for the durians.

They really are quite good, once you get past the smell,
and I'd go more liquidfied corpse with a side of acidic diarrhea as a description of it.
Maybe you could make a Durian flavored peperspray?

Like HSO said, It ruins your night sight, dazzles you, but falls far short of making you sick.
 
Don't know about the Dazzler - but I have a Gladius - strobe - no big deal. No dizzy, no vomit. If you held it in front of you and an opponent had a gun - that's where to shoot.

I'd like to see a real study in an ergonomics journal of their effectiveness before I bought into it. Google the latest navy laser burning up a ship - that might be convincing.
 
A certain percentage of the population is vulnerable to 'flicker' induced seizure.

When I entered Navy flight training in 1969, all pilot candidates had to be subjected to an EEG while a strobe light flickered at various frequency rates in their face to see if they were susceptible to seizure.

All it did was give me a headache.

Years later when I was an officer in the Air Department of USS Ranger, the Air Transportation Officer was on the flight deck shepherding a bunch of passengers into a turning helicopter. He was vulnerable to flicker induced seizure, but didn't know it. He looked up at the sun through the turning rotor blades and had a grand mal seizure.

That was the only instance of flicker induced seizure I had ever seen or personally heard of.

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A girl I went to highschool with had a seizure while stopped at a red light. Cause? The car in front of her that had a rapid blinking turn signal (one light was one) had triggered hers.

I agree with others, I've never seen one of these things but I've seen strobe lights many times and all they do is give me a headache after a while
 
i've een hit with them. It wasn't debilitating, but i felt off for a few hours. kinda lightheaded.
 
I'm sure it's awfully effective on people with epilepsy triggered by a visual stimulus. I think you would be better off with pepper spray against a normal person if you want non-lethal.

Or better yet a durian cannon. Durian is a fruit that smells like old socks filled with fresh vomit.
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Those things are spiky too. Not only would it stink, but it would smart pretty bad.
 
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This might be off the subject a bit, but when I was having a brain neurology scan, one of the things they did was have me lying on my back, facing this really bright strobe aimed at my face. I had sensors attached to my head and near my eyes to measure brainwave activity and eye movement.

I was to close my eyes during this (which, it was so bright to begin with, it went right through my eyelids, everything was bright red).

When the extremely-bright strobe was going really fast, it was just like a bright light, but as she turned it down, the slower the duration between blinks got, the more I got extreme anxiety and when she locked into the rythm of my brain (whatever that was), I felt as though I was going to pass out at any second!

I was about to yell for her to turn it off, when she finally did! It was like my brain could not register the light every time it went and it kind of put my brain into a frenzy is the only way I can explain it!:eek:

Yes, it was an EEG they were giving me.
I do remember thinking at the time that what they were doing to me could be used for torture if I had been chained to the bed and had no control over my eyes being covered, having them tune into the wrong flashing could result in someone losing it, passing out, going into a coma, etc!
 
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Right, that's the theory, and it works, kinda (that rhythm is unique) and a trained response would be to attack the light (lasers actually)
 
My dazzler is a 2mil. spotlight my kids gave me for my birthday. It will simply cook their retnias at anything under 30-40 yards:evil:
 
compared to a firearm, this device you are describing is useless. i agree that if upon being flashed in the eye someone would immediately drop and vomit (within a second) that would be one thing, but since that doesnt happen, this is in my opinion a toy disguised as a means of non lethal self defence.
 
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