WALKALONG!!!!!! The suspense is killing me!

[horsemen61]

Ok so you say you got a new rifle and it’s chambered in 6mm br iirc so if all of this is true please do tell .........

WHAT RIFLE IS IT!!!!!

I’d love to know make,model, year of manufacturer,barrel length, twist rate




Please


Thank You

 

[Walkalong]

Can't, I am already on double secret probation. (6MM Dasher)

 

[Walkalong]

An Impact.

Now I am broke, and on triple secret probation.

 

[horsemen61]

An Impact that’s awesome!

One question though Why an impact?

I want a 6mm dasher!

 

[Walkalong]

An impact is when two solid objects try to occupy the same space at the same time......

 

[horsemen61]

Very funny WALKALONG

 

[Varminterror]

Why an Impact?

Pretty simple - he’s starting into precision rifle matches and can read. If you want to win, the first step is to do what the winners do. Aka, buy an Impact!

If anyone is buying a rifle for Precision Rifle Competition, it should be one of two actions - Impact or Defiance. Impact rifles won more precision rifle matches last season than any other actions, with more shooters making wins (meaning not just one dude sweeping the field). It was the most popular action among shooters who qualified for the PRS and NRL Finales.

Other actions might be more common on other competition fields, but for Precision rifle, Impact and Defiance each out number any other action by about 2 to 1, among top shooters.

First picture from PRB’s 2018 “What the pro’s use” article - can be a little misleading because you have to compare blues against blues, and greens against greens - the same dudes can be counted twice in each bar, if they qualify for both finales.



I stole this one from @taliv, not sure if he made it or found it? Pretty compelling - it tabulates how many matches were won by each action, and then how many different shooters made up those wins. More guys win with Impact than anything else - almost twice as many - and Impact actions win more matches - twice as many - as any other action. Curtis and ARC are the only actions with higher “wins per shooter” ratio than Impact and it’s kind of easy to discount one badass with an ARC winning two matches.

 

[horsemen61]

Can’t wait to see it!

 

[Walkalong]

Stock pic from website. Nothing special to look at.

 

[ATLDave]

Pretty simple - he’s starting into precision rifle matches and can read. If you want to win, the first step is to do what the winners do.

I don't know why people have such a hard time with this concept! One of the great gifts that "experimental" sports (as opposed to sports where the equipment is standardized or highly, highly constrained by technical requirements/limits) make is to tease out what works and what doesn't... and, perhaps more importantly, what works slightly better.

It is very true that no amount of gear will make up for lack of skill. It is usually the indian, not the arrow. But if all the indians who are making lots of buffalo meat are using one particular kind of arrow... well, maybe that arrow is worth some extra consideration!

 

[MCMXI]

So what are the salient features that make an Impact action superior to all others for PRS use?

 

[WestKentucky]

I’m betting on tight tolerances, ridiculous rigidity, and meticulous attention to detail. Material quality, tool replacement, and craftsmanship likely plan into the mix.

 

[Varminterror]

So what are the salient features that make an Impact action superior to all others for PRS use?

From what I have seen:

• They check all of the boxes for PR competition rifle features - integral lug and rail, fluted bolt, enhanced extractor, 700 footprint - plus all of the features and attributes below.

• Wade and Tate are shooters and support the sport significantly.

• Impact actions are all headspaced such drop-in barrels can be bought and user installed, saving time and cost at the gunsmith. They offer “burner barrels” too which aren’t painted, just machine finished, at a lower cost - really handy.

• For action feel, they’re super smooth and they’re tight enough to not bind when ran fast, but loose enough to stay smooth even when dirty and dusty. Some actions will feel smooth because they are loose, then bind like hell when ran hard. Some will be tight in the raceway, then stick like Velcro when dry or dusty. Getting those tolerances right is the difference in an action and a great action.

• Trigger hanger for control on trigger timing and easier trigger maintenance.

I don’t have one yet, but set my wife’s cousin up with one a few months ago after handling a handful of them last year. Very good way to go in a PRS rifle. I went Defiance for my match rifles after years as a Surgeon fan, largely only because I could get a custom serial for me and my son to have in our rifles and get polished stainless steel. The Seekins action I used last season is a good rifle - great compared to a factory Rem 700 - but not too impressive compared to the Impact or Defiance.

 

[Walkalong]

Why an impact?

One big reason right here.

 

[horsemen61]

All good to know thanks guys

 

[horsemen61]

All right walkalong I gotta ask why 6mm dasher I want one I think but I know nothing of it I was hoping you could shed some light on it

 

[Walkalong]

Reputation for accuracy and easy load work, I used to shoot a 6PPC in registered Benchrest, the added speed over 6MM BR helps at long range, supposed to be easier on barrels than 6 Creed, the case design is more efficient than 6 Creed, burns less powder withe a little less recoil.......

It's handload only, use Norma 6 Dasher brass or fire form Lapua 6MM BR brass. Much easier than neck turning and fire forming Lapua .220 Russian making 6PPC brass.

All of this is from reading a a great deal about PRS in general, PRS calibers, etc, etc....... the last four months. I have 200 Lapua 6MM BR brass and 200 Berger 105 Gr Hybrids in my greedy little hands, dies should be here next Thursday, I just need the rifle,which should be here Monday, maybe Tuesday. Should get to shoot it soon. Not on call next weekend.

 

[horsemen61]

Good to know thanks walk

 

[Varminterror]

It seems as though the game is “circling the flame” of the Dasher. The last 3 seasons, the 6mm’s have dominated the field over the 6.5’s, and last season, the Dasher was the shooter favorite among Finale qualifiers. The Dasher edged out the 6 creed, but there were more of each 6 Creeds and Dashers than any other by a wide margin (which honestly surprised me, since the x47L has a better reputation for consistency). Guys tend to claim that target flashers on long range targets made room for the 6mm’s, but from where I sit, it was a bunch of guys shooting 6’s and asking for flashers, or the RO’s arguing “no call” against shooters calling their own impacts asking for evidence.

The 6 BR variants were something like half of the field. 6 BRA was all the rage in shooter discussion last season, and I have seen even more guys flock to it this season. Easier fireforming than the Dasher, with less case loss - so they tell me. I love the Dasher.

 

[Walkalong]

Target games are different than hunting, you don't have to worry so much about delivering energy downrange. No worries with bullet construction, just as long as they fly straight.

 

[MCMXI]

@Walkalong, I mean no disrespect and certainly don't intend to rain on your parade and I wish you all the best with your latest endeavor. I look forward to following along as you work up loads and put you and your rifle to the test.

That said, I don't pay any attention to PRB's "what the pros use" marketing graphics unless the implied variables can be measured to show a real advantage, and, if the choice is independent of corporate influence. Cartridge choice is one of the few graphics that has any amount of integrity. The PRB is nothing more than a mule for corporate America, just like every gun magazine, gun show and the like, and I can count on one hand how many times I've looked at their "influencer" content in the last couple of years, maybe even half of one hand. Integrity in this industry, sport or hobby has long since left the building. It's only found in distant dirty corners of the world among people who's lives depend on the choice that someone else made for them.

 

[Varminterror]

@MCMXI - so you’re saying you have reason to believe or evidence to indicate the load-out tally by PRB of the gear used by shooters at the Finales is tainted?

 

[MCMXI]

@MCMXI - so you’re saying you have reason to believe or evidence to indicate the load-out tally by PRB of the gear used by shooters at the Finales is tainted?

I never stated that the numbers or reporting by the PRB are tainted and you're way too smart to imply that's what I said or meant. People and groups with agendas report numbers and statistics all the time, and many do it with a complete lack of transparency because transparency isn't consistent with their objectives. Am I saying that the PRB lacks transparency because they have an agenda? ABSOLUTLEY!!!

Do you think that the purpose of the PRB is to offer an impartial and objective information service to shooting enthusiasts?

 

[Nature Boy]

Can’t wait to see it @Walkalong

More specifically, looking forward to seeing the results from your load work and bullets down range.

And I can certainly sympathize with spending lot of money on this ridiculous hobby. What else are we going to spend it on? Food, clothing and shelter are luxuries that are often overemphasized, however, a top of the line rifle with quality optics is a joy forever.

 

[horsemen61]

Nature boy well put!!!!