Walther P-22 vs. Sig Mosquito

Which one should I buy? (Please explain reason)

  • Walther P-22

    Votes: 39 65.0%

  • Sig Mosquito

    Votes: 21 35.0%
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I'm considering buying a Walther P-22 (replacing my XD because of ammunition costs), however, I have noticed the Sig Mosquito. I haven't heard much and a search didn't turn up much on the gun. Should I stick with the P-22, or should I buck up the extra money and get a Mosquito? Please don't recommend anything else like Rugers, Brownings, Smith & Wessons, etc., as I have already decided against buying those. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
well i just like the p22 because of the backstraps, diff barrels, cheaper, loads of accessories, u can change the sights, and someone makes mags that hold 13 for it instead of 10.
 
My Walther experience was a little rocky at first, the P22 was choking on just about everything I used except the Aquila SSS Subsonic. I almost traded it away, but one day at Coal Creek I noticed that they had a couple as rentals and asked what ammo they recommended. CCI Mini Mags. I haven't had another hiccup out of mine since.

The moral of this story: .22 autos are finicky about ammo (Duh!)

I haven't shot the Sig, so I can't compare them, but I really like the Walther now.
 
I've heard very little good about the SIG Mosquito, although if you like the SIG DA/SA system the idea would seem a good one if done right. Spare mags at $35 each helped me loose intrest, not the P22 mags at $23 each are a bargin.

P22 has mixed opinions, mine been good with no problems using any of the cheap ammo in mine, although some recent lots of Federal Champion seem to weak to fully cycle the slide. IMHO gun would be a whole lot better if the safety rotated the correct way JMB intended :) Is easy to activate with the thumb since the gun is so small.

--wally.
 
I got one of the later (mid-2004ish, maybe even 2005) P22s and haven't had a problem yet. It's a very fun plinking gun and fits surprisingly well in my large-ish hand. The short barrel isn't deadly accurate, but it'll group OK from 7-11yds. Mine came with the factory laser (cats love it, I've never bothered to sight it in honestly), you can take it or leave it.

I've only heard bad things about Mosquitos before, but I hear they (like Walther) have made improvements over time and now they're reliable and accurate with the right ammo (all of 'em love CCI Minimags, or so I gather).

Another 'trainer' pistol to look at is the CZ Kadet - all steel, full-sized (or close), a little more expensive than the other two (street price $400-450), but no skimping on parts quality. My only gripe is that it doesn't come with the same sights as my 9mm CZ. Some folks probably prefer its target sights, however.
 
I'm not sure which I would recommend. The Sig Mosquito is pricey, and pretty big for a .22 auto...it's almost the size of their compact models in service calibers.

On the Walther P-22, I've heard everything from nightmare FTE's and FTF's to them falling apart after repetitive shooting.

I own neither, so this is just what I've heard after reading up on them both in the past.

If you aren't completely set on those two, look into the Browning Buckmark or Ruger MKII/MKIII models. They are more suited to long-term shooting IMO, and have plenty of accessories.

Be aware that any .22 auto you get will probably have trouble with some types of ammo. The only way around that is going with a revolver.
 
Please don't recommend anything else like Rugers, Brownings, Smith & Wessons, etc., as I have already decided against buying those. Any advice would be appreciated.
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sorry but i had to remind people
 
Sold my Sig cause it jammed.:banghead: It's a great idea executed poorly by Sig.:cuss: Trigger is awful...period.:barf: Bought a P22 and have had zero problems so far and it's more accurate than expected. The only problem is that reassembly is awkward...takes some getting used to. I'd get the P22 over the Sig if I were you and put the savings into ammo or an accessory (laser or such).
 
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Zinc just doesn't hold up very well. My friend nearly lost an eye to that one (wasn't wearing glasses). Always wear you glasses! I don't know why you're summarily dismissing pistols that are superior. If it is because they don't look like "real" pistols, than you might want to take a look at the CZ Kadet (it can be had as a whole pistol).
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I don't know why you're summarily dismissing pistols that are superior.
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I've dismissed them because I have no interest in them. I plan on this .22 to be my first conceal carry (because financial constraints do not allow me to regularly shoot a 9mm, and I really want to conceal carry). I also want a gun that will accurately reflect the grip angle and operational feel of normal centerfire autoloaders. The Rugers and Buckmarks do not fulfill any of my desires. But I will look into the CZ Cadet.
 
Well first a large frame 22lr as a CCW sounds foolish to me but to each his own.
But the Ruger 22/45 has the same grip angle as the 1911 so i don't understand why your are automatically disregarding it.
 
You asked, I'll answer; go with the SIG. I have the P22 and have shot thousands of rounds through it. I have small hands and it fits me and my children like shooting it too. I have the package deal where it came with the 3 & 5" barrels. With the 5" accuracy is so so, w/the 3" it's not great. I like the looks of the gun and the sights are okay except you can only adjust the rear sight for windage. the front site is a plastic piece you pop out and then you pop in a taller or shorter one for elevation but for CCW that doesn't matter. For CCW you only want the shorter barrel.

Now, If I was lost and on my way to Hell and you know the way of salvation, would you not tell me if I was being foolish by putting my faith in something that can't save me? I'm guessing you'd risk offending me to tell me the truth because you're supposed to love "all" men and the way to love all men is to tell them the truth, right? :)

So I'm going to tell you the truth; carrying a .22 for your stated reason that you can't afford 9mm is a very thin arguement. I can appreciate the financial constraints, Lord knows I can! BUT, a .22 is a very very poor choice for CCW. I'd recommend that you buy the .22 you want for a lot of cheap practice but consider buying an inexpensive 9mm when you can afford it, or even a .380. then you can practice basic markmanship with the .22 and shoot the .380 or 9mm a bit here and there and carry that.

Two guns that you can consider down the road that might be ok CCW weapons for someone on a budget (me :D ) would be a second generation kel-tec P3AT in .380 or the new Kel-tec PF9 in 9mm. I know the .280 is $260 or so, or less and I believe you'll be able to get the PF9 for under $300. Even a good S&W J frame .38 Airweight 642 is about $380 but it's an excellent weapon.

I know how things can be tight so do what you need to do but consider planning on obtaining something that'll be minimum of .38 or 9mm (or .380 at the very least).

Not to be pushy but I just wanted to tell you the truth...:eek:

God Bless
Gideon
 
Financial constraints are the least of your problems if you plan on carrying a .22 for self defense. Not to mention, your argument makes no sense after doing the math:

From budsgunshop.com here's what I came up with:

Kel-Tec P-11 in 9mm - $220.55 - excellent carry size & weight, adequate self defense caliber.

Sig Mosquito in .22lr - $344.38 - bigger & heavier than the P-11, and a poor self defense caliber compared to 9mm.


$344.38 - Sig Mosquito
-$220.55 - Kel-Tec P-11
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= $123.83 - difference


This comes out to a better gun for carry in a better caliber, and $123 is enough money left over to buy roughly 800 rounds of 9mm to shoot.


Do what you want, but since you've never carried concealed before take it from us that have....alot of us for many years with many different guns and calibers.
 
How about using the money for a reloader. 9MM is cheap to reload for, and you can still shoot a lot for the same money. I agree with those who are discouraging you from the .22 for self protection.


I wont discourage you from either of the .22's, I have both the P22 and the Mosquito. Pick the one you like the best. The SIG feels better in my hand, but the P22 is fun too.

One thing your going to hear a lot on these two pistols is..."I own neither, so this is just what I've heard..."

I dont know about you, but if I'm going to solicit responses to help make a decision, I'd rather base it on actual experience by those who actually own and shoot them. Good or bad, its their experience, not more passed on "I heard" BS.


Zinc just doesn't hold up very well.
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Nor does steel, whats your point?

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Did your friend have the comp mounted properly? I've seen that happen with a Mosquito with an early aftermarket threaded barrel and a suppressor. The barrel wasnt long enough, allowing the slide to impact the rear of the can, causing stress. Looks like the same thing might have been happening to the P22 in the pic.


The moral of this story: .22 autos are finicky about ammo (Duh!)
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Yup

How many of us have had a 22lr cartridge not go bang when the firing pin hit the rim? I have.
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This is very common and no pistol is immune from it. Its also the cause of a lot of malfunctions blamed on the gun.
 
Don't know anything about the Mosquito

I have a Walther P22.... and its horrible in my opinion.

It's a good gun for just teaching friends to shoot and to not fear shooting guns.

It is fun I'll admit, but for accuracy - I'll put it this way - at 7 yards, my target looked like a shot gun had been used from 40 yards. Shots were everywhere no matter how hard I tried to adjust for whatever deviation was going on.

Then I pulled out my G27 to practice with my carry gun. From 30 yards, I had a 4 inch group of about 50 shots.

So much for accuracy with the 22. I'll keep it to teach people how to shoot and hold a gun, trigger safety, how the internal mechanics work, etc..... but if I could do it all over again, it would have been a Ruger, S&W, or possibly the Mosquito if I knew more about it.

Stay away from the P22..... although there is one exception - I hear if you put the extension on the front, accuracy improves dramatically (or you can buy it like that already).

I was jealous as I watched the guy next to me having fun with his Ruger .22 (Mark II I think) and was hitting dead center every time. He was the opposite of me. His shots were all over the place with his Glock 19 (at 7 yards), but dead-center with his Ruger Mark II.

So unless there is something majorly wrong with me.... I'm thinking the P22 is a no-go unless they get it more accurate.
 
Primersinmyshoe - what gun are you using when that happens?

Happens all the time on my P22. I wasn't sure if it was the gun or the ammo. It happens with all ammo, but the least with CCI ammo. I check after 30 seconds to see if it made an indent and it did.... so I was thinking maybe the firing pin wasn't hitting hard enough....

sometimes if you pull the trigger again it works though.

Don't know what to make of it.
 
I'm not sure which I would recommend. The Sig Mosquito is pricey, and pretty big for a .22 auto...it's almost the size of their compact models in service calibers.

On the Walther P-22, I've heard everything from nightmare FTE's and FTF's to them falling apart after repetitive shooting.

I own neither, so this is just what I've heard after reading up on them both in the past.

If you aren't completely set on those two, look into the Browning Buckmark or Ruger MKII/MKIII models. They are more suited to long-term shooting IMO, and have plenty of accessories.

Be aware that any .22 auto you get will probably have trouble with some types of ammo. The only way around that is going with a revolver.
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The P22, despite what some say is actually well built. It will hold together, no problem. It just jams a lot (but so do other .22 autos) and has bad accuracy. Also as I mentioned before, plenty of FTF's. By bad accuracy I mean POI is about 5-6" from POA.
 
at 7 yards, my target looked like a shot gun had been used from 40 yards
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Does it shoot this way for everyone who shoots it? Mine shoots a ragged little whole at 7 yards and does very well at 15.

By bad accuracy I mean POI is about 5-6" from POA.
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did you try switching the front sights to adjust POI?
 
There's been more than one

There's been more than one P22 slide let loose.

What's funny is that my friend emailed me the pictures yesterday. My previous statements regarding the P22 were based on other experiences. That just cemented them. The P22 is one pistol that I don't feel the least bit hesitant in calling utter rubbish. I have yet to see one that was acceptably accurate, fed reliably, ejected reliably, and didn't break some part or another after a while. Even at ~$250 they are a waste of anyone's hard earned dollars. Spend your money on something that was built to last or at least work.

I don't have any experience with the Mosquito so I won't say anything too bad about it. It hasn't been getting rave reviews though.

Ruger MKII/III or 22/45
Buckmark
CZ Kadet
S&W 41 or other (don't know the numbers)
Marvel kit for a 1911
SIG Trailside (not the most durable but they do shoot well)
etc.

I don't know what your budget is for a new pistol, but I would recommend getting a CZ75B in 9mm (used perhaps), and then get the Kadet kit. The Kadet kit is truly top notch.

Nor does steel, whats your point?
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Quit being silly! Steel slides are fine when done correctly (See Ruger MKII). Zinc is inferior, and only used as a cost saving measure (See Walther P22).
 
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Going to have to agree with AK103K here, my P22 will shoot a ragged hole at 7rds, but I mostly shoot it at 25-50yds. Its minute-of-coke can at 25, and I've had a lot of fun shooting it, though I've been tinkering with the idea of selling it to fund another purchase. Problem is though, everytime I shoot it, I want to keep it. My shoots perfect with the Aguila high velocity round nose solids (Eley primed), it also shoots great with American Eagle. You've got to try some different ammo in 22lr's. I've got the short barreled model, and the main reason I bought the thing was for a fun gun, and as a small, light, 22 kit-gun to stick in my vest or M65 field jacket pocket while hunting, fishing, hiking or whatever. I carry a S&W 642 and either a 1911 or G17 for CCW, and would never think of carrying the P22 in that role....that just doesn't make sense.
 
Well, I should have expected it to kind of delve into "the .22 is worthless for self-defense". That wasn't the question. I can't afford to shoot 9mm regularly, so that would probably affect my accuracy. I don't have the time to reload (2 jobs, full-time at college, 2 kids). I can't afford to buy another gun without selling (or trading) the one I have.

Also, if I sell the XD-9 to get a .22 (because of my financial reasons that don't need to be argued any further), are you actually suggesting that I shouldn't carry because a .22 isn't "enough gun"? So I should just go unarmed because my fists are somehow better against a thug with a knife than a .22?

I didn't start this thread to go over a .22's SD capabilities. I just asked which one you recommended over the other. I mentioned that I had already ruled out the other companies, but you guys have seemed to completely ignore that fact. My reasons are my own, if you can't accept that I narrowed my choices by my own reasoning, then that's fine.

For concealed carry, the S&W airweights are an excellent economical choice. I believe they go for ~$350 NIB around me.
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Except that .38 Special is just as expensive if not more than 9mm.


Thanks to those who answered the question. I appreciate your advice.
 
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