Walther PPK .22lr, another auto taking up room in the safe.

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They started making them out of zinc?

I have an older Iver Johnson TP-22, a Walther TPH knock off, that’s steel/aluminum alloy. Other than the minuscule sights and heavy trigger it’s pretty handy and reliable.

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I’m surprised that Walther went to zinc after all those years of making them the old fashioned way. Whatever the materials, I do hope it shoots well for your wife when she gets a chance to shoot it. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
[QUOTE="Riomouse911,]
I’m surprised that Walther went to zinc after all those years of making them the old fashioned way. Whatever the materials, .[/QUOTE]

The new PPK/S .22 is made by the parent company Umarex not the old fashioned Walther. Different times.
 
ontarget said:
I really like a small 22 auto. I have a few of the Phoenix 22s that I love.
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I can’t argue that, I also have the Phoenix that I paid $125 for years ago. It doesn’t get out much but when it does I have a good time.

My wife was initially eyeballing a Beretta Bobcat that I was hoping she would go with but I did not want to influence her decision between the two and then blame me if she didn’t like the Beretta…o_O
 
So far, my new product PPK/s has worked flawlessly and seems to like just about any brand of ammunition I feed it.

And I have no issue with zinc components where zinc makes sense.
 
I like a nice .22 small auto, too. I do have one of those HP22A ones from Phoenix, and it is a surprisingly-solid little gun, though complicated by at least 64 different safety mechanisms.

My favorite is my FEG-made Walther knock-off, the AP22, that was imported in 1998. Later, SEG (or was it SMG?)-imported ones had aluminum frames, but mine is all-steel. The bluing is deep and rich, and the gun is solid and reliable. However, it's very stiffly-sprung and the DA mode of the trigger is almost unusable, like a P64. The OEM magazines are stamped for high-velocity ammunition only; MiniMags work well.
 
Funny how we want our guns to last a long time, but we want them to look a certain way, operate smoothly and accurately, and be inexpensive to purchase. These days its all about the dollars. Although we have the ability to make better guns than ever before, it is to no avail if they are beyond the means of potential consumers.
I was disappointed with the quality of two early P-22s I had, so was not sorry to see them go. My PPK/S made in Germany was a great little specimen, but worth more to someone else than to me. I enjoy my PPQ and it will be one of the last to go. Every gun is a compromise, but for me it comes down to ergonomics, aesthetics and function. If it works, looks and feels the way I want, I don't worry about how it got there. I do want durability, however, so will be watching user reports before deciding on purchase. OP, I hope your wife enjoys using her new gun, and that you will let us know if it disappoints (other than by not revolving :D).
 
To give the gun it's due it is made from zamak, a zink alloy which is stronger than ordinary zink. I wouldn't worry about it as Walther is confident enough in it's strength to give the little gun a lifetime warranty. My wife has one and it shoots any HV 22 that has been loaded in it. I have shot more than she has and I find it about as accurate as my Ruger SR22 and a bird's head HRR. I am not particularly good with any of the three but I have never done really great with any short sight radius handgun.
 
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I have the Walther clone in an Erma 22 from the 80’s.

I could be mistaken, but I think it has a steel slide. It’s in the safe that is buried behind a ton of junk. Next time I open that safe I’ll test the slide with a magnet.
 
doubleh said:
o give the gun it's due it is made from zamak, a zink alloy which is stronger than ordinary zink.
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Zamak is a trade name and I have no idea if they use Zamak specifically or not.

But to your point, there are many grades and they certainly aren't using the same grade as used for hotwheels.
 
Jimbo80 said:
[QUOTE="Riomouse911,]
I’m surprised that Walther went to zinc after all those years of making them the old fashioned way. Whatever the materials, .
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The new PPK/S .22 is made by the parent company Umarex not the old fashioned Walther. Different times.[/QUOTE]
Makes sense. Hopefully they’re tough enough to last as long as my 1980’s era TP-22 has. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Jimbo80 said:
The only real complaints I’ve ever heard about it are about the DA trigger pull.
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That's been a complaint about the Walther PP/PPK design since 1930. A good thread might be "What conventional DA automatic has a good DA trigger pull?" I can't think of many candidates. The Poles tried hard with their P-83 9mm Makarov pistol.
 
danez71 said:
Zamak is a trade name and I have no idea if they use Zamak specifically or not.

But to your point, there are many grades and they certainly aren't using the same grade as used for hotwheels.
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Well, it seems my CRS is alive and working because I can't remember where I ran down the information on the material these guns are made from. Some zamak alloys are pretty tough and this isn't the only firearm made with it.

Riomouse911 said:
The new PPK/S .22 is made by the parent company Umarex not the old fashioned Walther. Different times.
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Makes sense. Hopefully they’re tough enough to last as long as my 1980’s era TP-22 has. :thumbup:

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]

It is sold under the Walther name and they have enough confidence in it to put a lifetime warranty on it. What is to lose?
 
Riomouse911

I had an Iver Johnson TP22, much like the one you have. It was a fun to shoot, very reliable, and relatively inexpensive. I wasn't put off by the Zamak frame as I knew the slide was made from steel. Had it for quite awhile until I traded it on a new Beretta Model 21.
 
MedWheeler said:
Monac writes:



An even better (more challenging) one might be "What conventional DA-capable .22 caliber automatic has a good DA trigger pull?" ;)
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Beretta M9-22.

I just picked one up a couple of months back and it has the same, nice, DA trigger as my 9mm Berettas.

The other DA 22's Ive had had "different" triggers compared to the guns they copied, but they really werent all that bad either. Just different.
 
MedWheeler said:
Monac writes:



An even better (more challenging) one might be "What conventional DA-capable .22 caliber automatic has a good DA trigger pull?" ;)
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My Ruger SR22 isn't too bad in the DA department.After installing day glow sights I am a much better shot with it.
 
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