Wanting to buy a 1911

[Demi-human]

I'd say "everyone needs to own a Ruger MK .22lr".

Well, since it is a 1911 thread, this is the best I can comply. A 22/45. Handles just like a 1911, more or less…

I don’t always carry a Dan Wesson 1911, but when I do, it’s a Silverback.

 

[Howland937]

Do you have links to confirm that the Brazilian gun is now manufactured in the States? Because I've never heard of that.

Here's an ad from Midway. They're discontinued now, but they're advertised as "Made in USA"

My understanding is frame and slide forgings come from Brazil, final assembly is (or was) determined by SN prefix. "NM" is USA assembly, just "N" is Brazil.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Well, since it is a 1911 thread, this is the best I can comply. A 22/45. Handles just like a 1911, more or less…

I don’t always carry a Dan Wesson 1911, but when I do, it’s a Silverback.

I’m envious of that can, wish it was over the counter

 

[gnappi]

Do you have links to confirm that the Brazilian gun is now manufactured in the States? Because I've never heard of that.

No a fellow I know said he called Springfield and was told that, I really don't care either way but if anyone's interested there's someone at Springfield who can answer it... but you still won't have a link

 

[DR505]

I am partial to this one:

 

[JTQ]

I read that SA is now making the Loaded in the U.S.

Do you have links to confirm that the Brazilian gun is now manufactured in the States? Because I've never heard of that.

I can't provide any actual links, but per the "internet" and the various 1911 forums, Springfield's association with Imbel, the Brazilian company that had produced their forgings, ended about a decade ago. The common understanding on the 1911 forums since then, is Springfield has sourced their parts from US sources. This is not new.

 

[Mn Fats]

I don’t always carry a Dan Wesson 1911, but when I do, it’s a Silverback.

Any relation?

 

[Sour Kraut]

Sig makes some fine 1911’s although many so called “purists” scoff at them. I do not…..

 

[gotboostvr]

Of the three things you desire, the wood grips are the easiest to skip over.
So, really, all you are looking for is a skeleton trigger and three-dot sights.

There's a huge variety in wood stocks for 1911 models, and the frames are all nearly identical, too, to make that easier.

Agreed, get the sights and trigger/hammer/beavertail you want.

Grips are easy to change.

I actually just put a new (old) set on my LightWeight Commander (and a new thumb safety) today with stuff I found in my parts boxes.

 

[Mn Fats]

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Here's an ad from Midway. They're discontinued now, but they're advertised as "Made in USA"

My understanding is frame and slide forgings come from Brazil, final assembly is (or was) determined by SN prefix. "NM" is USA assembly, just "N" is Brazil.

No a fellow I know said he called Springfield and was told that, I really don't care either way but if anyone's interested there's someone at Springfield who can answer it... but you still won't have a link

Springfield seems to be very tight lipped about parts/manufacturing locations and even materials sometimes.

 

[Mn Fats]

The common understanding on the 1911 forums since then, is Springfield has sourced their parts from US sources. This is not new.

What's not new? Internet people claiming Springfield is American? Certainly new to me. And no one can directly confirm any of it. Springfield won't say.

Either way, foriegn or domestic, doesn't matter to me. Some guns that are Americana would be nice to have in pure USA made form. But they're getting lesser and lesser by the day.

 

[JTQ]

What's not new?

Springfield's terminated connection to Imbel.

They used to get their forgings from Imbel in Brazil, probably from the beginning of Springfield's 1911 production. Some Springfield 1911's were completely manufactured in Brazil and shipped to the US as complete guns, and some were shipped as parts to the US and assembled at Springfield's plant in Illinois.

However, it has been nearly a decade since Springfield's relationship with Imbel ended. Where they source their parts from, I don't know, but it isn't Imbel in Brazil.

 

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

Just a basic stainless Colt 1991 here----did change out the factory plastic/rubber grips for some double diamond rosewood------the most accurate handgun I own---not counting .22's.

 

[Demi-human]

Any relation?

Parental. He’s my Dad. And I can’t take him anywhere. Even grocery shopping is an exhausting event.


I’ll not slight Springfield’s offerings, but for a thousand dollars I’d much rather have a Colt Competition. Actually less monies than the Loaded, and found here.
https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/colt-...s-5-pistol-45-acp-8-rd-o1070ccs-098289111449/
I may need a blued one.

 

[Demi-human]

Jeez, was that link old as dirt! Sorry about that.

Got interested and was looking about. The only Competitions I found were from the Custom shop, and they were $2,500.

I forgot everything is crazytrain. Let the stagnation begin!

 

[Howland937]

I’ll not slight Springfield’s offerings, but for a thousand dollars

I guess I'm not shopping in the right places, because other than the online con-artists I've never found a $1k Springfield Loaded. I paid (ok, it still is a lot of money to me) $650+tax for the one I posted earlier. That was Feb. 8th. In the case right beside it was a brand new one for $804 + tax. Which was cheaper than the $819 Kimber LW or Stainless II...
With better features and allegedly better CS, according to the 'net experts.

As far as where it's made, all evidence points to the NM serialization being USA made. I don't care though. I'd rather buy one from a foreign manufacturer than support the economy of a state that hates gun makers AND gun owners.

 

[Mn Fats]

Springfield's terminated connection to Imbel.

They used to get their forgings from Imbel in Brazil, probably from the beginning of Springfield's 1911 production. Some Springfield 1911's were completely manufactured in Brazil and shipped to the US as complete guns, and some were shipped as parts to the US and assembled at Springfield's plant in Illinois.

However, it has been nearly a decade since Springfield's relationship with Imbel ended. Where they source their parts from, I don't know, but it isn't Imbel in Brazil.

That's interesting. Caspian maybe? I wish Springfield would just say what's what. Not that it matters a great deal either way, but I am curious.

I’ll not slight Springfield’s offerings, but for a thousand dollars I’d much rather have a Colt Competition. Actually less monies than the Loaded, and found here.
https://www.omahaoutdoors.com/colt-...s-5-pistol-45-acp-8-rd-o1070ccs-098289111449/
I may need a blued one.

I touched on that in post #47 and absolutely agree. Costs less than the Loaded's in my area as well, by a noticeable margin.

 

[rabid wombat]

@DR505 Milt Sparks….nice!

 

[JTQ]

That's interesting. Caspian maybe?

Probably not. Caspian produces cast frames, while Springfield advertises forged frames.