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Well This is Interesting...

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Turns out some of the Pics in the Daily Mirror weren't exactly on the up-and-up.

BBC Link:

Editor sacked over 'hoax' photos


The Mirror board said Morgan would be stepping down immediately
Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan has been sacked after the newspaper conceded photos of British soldiers abusing an Iraqi were fake.
In a statement the Mirror said it had fallen victim to a "calculated and malicious hoax" and that it would be "inappropriate" for Morgan to continue.

The Queen's Lancashire Regiment (QLR) said the Mirror had endangered British troops by running the pictures.

Roger Goodman, of the QLR, said the regiment now felt "vindicated".

Mr Goodman added: "It is just a great pity it has taken so long... and that so much damage has been done in the meantime."


The Daily Mirror... apologises unreservedly for publishing the pictures and deeply regrets the reputational damage done to the QLR and the Army in Iraq

Mirror statement

At a news conference in Preston on Friday afternoon, the regiment demonstrated to reporters aspects of uniform and equipment which it said proved the photographs were fake.

The regiment's Brigadier Geoff Sheldon said the vehicle featured in the photographs had been located in a Territorial Army base in Lancashire and had never been in Iraq.

He said the QLR's reputation had been damaged by the Mirror and asked the newspaper to apologise because the evidence they were staged was "overwhelming".

The Conservatives said they hoped lessons had been learned from the row.

Deputy leader and foreign affairs spokesman, Michael Ancram, said: ''Looking at the facts objectively, this is the right thing for Piers Morgan to have done.

"The photos that were published in the Daily Mirror have done great damage to the reputation of our troops, who are serving under some of the most difficult conditions in Iraq.''

'Recruiting poster for al-Qaeda'

The photos published in the Mirror on 1 May appeared to show British troops torturing an Iraqi detainee.

In one picture a soldier is seen urinating on a hooded man while in another the hooded man is being hit with a rifle in the groin.

Colonel Black, a former regiment commander of the QLR, said the pictures put lives in danger and acted as a "recruiting poster" for al-Qaeda.

However one of the Mirror's informants - Soldier C - said there had been abuse in Iraq.

The Territorial Army solider has been questioned by Royal Military Police after talking about his claims to the Daily Mirror.

On ITV's Tonight With Trevor McDonald he said: "It did go on, it wasn't all the army, it wasn't systematic but it did happen."

Downing Street refused to comment on the issue, saying it was a matter for the Mirror board.

This was about the life of British soldiers, and you can't tough it out when you're wrong

Andrew Neil, former editor of the Sunday Times


Reaction to Morgan sacking

The BBC's Nicholas Witchell said it appeared Piers Morgan remained unrepentant right to the end

"According to one report Mr Morgan refused the demand to apologise, was sacked and immediately escorted from the building," he said.

Morgan will be replaced on a temporary basis by his deputy, Des Kelly.

The newspaper released a statement saying: "The Daily Mirror published in good faith photographs which it absolutely believed were genuine images of British soldiers abusing an Iraqi prisoner.

"However there is now sufficient evidence to suggest that these pictures are fakes and that the Daily Mirror has been the subject of a calculated and malicious hoax.

"The Daily Mirror therefore apologises unreservedly for publishing the pictures and deeply regrets the reputational damage done to the QLR and the Army in Iraq.

"The paper will continue to cooperate fully with the investigation.

"The board of Trinity Mirror has decided that it would be inappropriate for Piers Morgan to continue in his role as editor of the Daily Mirror and he will therefore be stepping down with immediate effect."

The Sun newspaper had offered a £50,000 reward for "information about the fake Mirror photos" but withdrew the offer following the sacking of Morgan.
 
Can't say I'd seen any photos - hoax or real - of British troops abusing/mistreating/torturing Iraqi prisoners. So hearing that they were fakes is a bit undramatic, especially considering how several of the American troops involved have admitted to what they did (in the context of trying to make excuses for it). There's no question the abuse/mistreatment/torture really did happen, and implying that it didn't because of some British hoax is a darn thin claim.
 
The larger point goes to journalistic integrity, or has that become an oxymoron? Any time new pictures of anything are published there will be some doubt about their authenticity.

This has some long term problems for us all because we need the media to tell the truth in order to make informed decisions.

A question I have is why do journalists think they can get away with lying? Or, are the lies we find out about such a small % of the stories that they really are getting away with it?

Now I'm depressing myself.
 
Ian-

On the BBC's article page the picture of the guy sitting on the floor with the rifle to his head shows a British L-81(?) rifle and the guy holding it is, IIRC, wearing British cammies.
 
I was a little dubious when the government came out and stated that these photos were fakes without giving too much in the way of evidence. Apparently the photos centre around the Queen's Lancashire Regiment yet the uniform is all wrong. Here we go:

The pictures were investigated by the RMP (Royal Military police), which said the truck shown in the photographs was never in Iraq.

On Friday the QLR (Queen's Lancashire Regiment) also demonstrated to reporters aspects of uniform and equipment which it said proved the photographs were false.

Neither the government nor the regiment have denied abuses may have taken place in Iraq.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3718615.stm

The last paragraph is the important point though. I'm afraid abuses have taken place, it is just that these particular photographs are fakes.

The Mirror is to name its sources according to the BBC article above. That could be interesting.
 
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