I think once you get a p-11 up and running the first time, their great guns. I purchased a p-40 almost two years ago(I knew this particular p-40 wasnt working), and shortly after that two friends of mine purchased p-11s. The two friends with p-11s have had flawless luck out of the box. My p-40 is going for his third trip back to the factory. Trip one to try to get the p-40 to actually work. Trip two to convert it to a 9mm p-11 and get night sights. That last trip the gun broke while shipping it back to me. I was talking to the gunsmith Rick last night, and I am shipping it back today. Rick told me he was tired of the drama of my pistol, and was going to give me a new frame and start from there. I also have a p-32 which has been flawless out of the box, with over 700-1000 rounds through it. So out of the four keltecs ive had experience with, three worked, one didnt, and the one I didnt was a known lemon when I got it. I really want this gun for a jogging pistol, but I might use it as a deep cover pistol while I save up for a kahr.