What 10MM would you choose.

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Elkins45 said:
I have S&W and Glock. Love the S&W, tolerate the Glock.
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PLEASE DO explain why.
The S&W in 10MM is a bit too large for my hand,and FAR too heavy.
In the lifetime I have left [ I am 71 ] I do not expect to put more than 500 rounds through this gun,after practice it will only be yearly that I sight her in for bear & hog.
And that is as a BUG as far as I can see.
 
mcb said:
For bruin defense the first rule, have a gun; second rule, be able to hit what you are shooting at. The actual cartridge seems a distant third. There are plenty of examples of successful bear defense with 9mm and similar cartridges.

Personally in bear country assuming a rifle impractical in the situation I would probably do a 44 Mag revolver but I like revolvers and have one to use. That said if push comes to shove I would feel almost as good caring any of my full-size centers fire handguns.
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I agree. Even a well placed 22 can down a bear. Would I rely on a 22 or 32 for bear? Heck no! I've even heard stories of a pocket knife being used to take down a charging bear. Put 25 rounds of 22 in anything and its gonna feel it (except if it can't penetrate the hide). How many 500+ lb alligators have they shown get shot with a single 22LR on swamp people.

I've never been to grizzly country, but I would want my 44 mag over the 10mm. In black bear country I carry 45acp and 10 mm.

In the end, it's all about being comfortable and accurate shooting the pistol. If you can accurately shoot a 500mag, then by all means, use it. If you are comfortable with a double stack 10mm auto, take that. Consider the game or predators you'll encounter, and choose the loading that best suits it. When taking my 10mm out to the Rockies last summer, it was loaded with heavy buffalo bore hollow points. The 45 was loaded with 200gr hot hollow point reloads. For Grizzlies, I'd want some 44mag 240+gr HC flat nose bullets.
 
Lots of bad info about putting down a big bear In this thread. You will not put it down with a 22 unless you stick it in his ear while he's chewing on you. LOL The animal is lunging at you and you have 1 to 2 seconds to do something before your toast. Any auto will allow you to put twice as many shots on the target in a given amount of time. The best you can hope for is to discourage the bear, because if he wants to get to you he will whether the bullet went through his heart or not. If the bear is on you then advantage goes to the revolver because the slide can get gunked up with hair and meat with an auto.
 
Casefull said:
Lots of bad info about putting down a big bear In this thread. You will not put it down with a 22 unless you stick it in his ear while he's chewing on you. LOL The animal is lunging at you and you have 1 to 2 seconds to do something before your toast. Any auto will allow you to put twice as many shots on the target in a given amount of time. The best you can hope for is to discourage the bear, because if he wants to get to you he will whether the bullet went through his heart or not. If the bear is on you then advantage goes to the revolver because the slide can get gunked up with hair and meat with an auto.
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Whoa now, I thought I was clear that the 22 was not to be trusted, but it is possible to kill one. A shot through the jugular would be the best option, if all you had was a 22. At that point, the bear will probably have you pinned to the ground, and any shot would be tough. If someone thinks a 22 is adequate for a bear that's full of adrenaline, they have no business handling a firearm. I wouldn't trust a 22 for a cracked out 150 pound two legged snake. They are more common here in my neck of the woods lol

There's no perfect round, but the 10mm is a good compromise, being a hot round and being able to hold 15 in one magazine.
 
Never had much interest in an auto for large critters, then got into a 10mm Glock project.
After a grip reduction by Robar, it's do-able.
In factory form, no.

With the RIGHT BULLET, I'd feel comfortable on blacks & small grizzlies.
The Glock is not much of a kicker & accuracy is adequate.
Reliability was excellent in this one, even on bullet profiles no auto should be expected to function with.
Denis
 
I have, and love, a G29, G40, and a Kimber Camp Guard. They each excel at their intended purpose.
If I had to narrow it down to one, I would sell all three and get a G20. It would seem to be a good fit for meeting my needs.
 
scaatylobo said:
PLEASE DO explain why.
The S&W in 10MM is a bit too large for my hand,and FAR too heavy.
In the lifetime I have left [ I am 71 ] I do not expect to put more than 500 rounds through this gun,after practice it will only be yearly that I sight her in for bear & hog.
And that is as a BUG as far as I can see.
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I agree that the Smith is very heavy, but it fits my hand better than the Glock. I have found the Glock to be just about at the upper limit of what I can wrap my hand around. My opinion is also colored by the fact that I just don’t like striker fired guns with the safety on the trigger.

Plus, polymer guns react very badly to case head failures.
 
Trey Veston said:
When you're talking about a firearm that will be carried in the woods as a back-up firearm for defense against critters and possibly people, that will be subjected to abuse, mud, debris, moisture, and God knows what else then forget anything in the 1911.

Seriously. The fact that so many people are recommending 10mm 1911s proves my theory that most posters here don't actually venture more than 50yds off the gravel roads from their King Ranch pickups.

I live on the edge of the wilderness. I am in the woods at least once a month where there are wolves, bears, ill-tempered elk, cougars, and the occasional tweaker.

There is no cell service where I go. If I get lost, there is no walking in any direction for a couple of miles and hitting a road. I grew up exploring the woods and hunting and fishing where choosing the wrong equipment could be fatal.

The 1911 is the wrong equipment.

I took this pic last month from where I consider to be my backyard. I am 10 miles from the nearest paved road, no cell service, 15 miles from a town, yet I don't consider it to be true wilderness...

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This is on a moose hunt a year or so ago. Nearest town was 20 miles to the West, it was grizzly country, wolves everywhere, and if you start walking East, you won't hit a town for 100 miles.

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What <<are the most common>> sidearms in Alaska and Montana and Idaho? Either a large bore stainless revolver or single-action or a Glock in 10mm. Period. You will rarely see anything else being carried where actual lives depend on firearm choice rather than internet chest-puffing and gun shop bragging.

This is what I carry when in grizzly country with my own reloads that use 300gr hard cast bullets that I actually cast myself. It's a Ruger Blackhawk Bisley in .45 Colt with a 5.5" barrel.

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This is what I carry when in most places in Idaho where there is a nearly zero chance of coming across a grizzly, a Glock Gen 4 G29 in 10mm.

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The Glock G29 is reasonably compact, holds ten rounds, or you can use the G40 15-round magazines and a $12 X-Grip adapter if you desire. It is reliable, stupid accurate, and eminently customizable to meet any of your needs. It is in the top three list of any serious outdoorsman who knows anything about real world conditions and doesn't get a case of Tourette Syndrome whenever someone mentions Glocks.
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I think you are exaggerating the issues.
 
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Trey Veston said:
And I think most people that get involved in these bear and woods carry firearm discussions have never been to the actual woods and think hiking on a path in a national park is "woods carry".

Hence the recommendation for 1911s... LOL
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For once I think we are both right.
 
Well I won't comment on bear defense or the reliability of 1911 vs _______. I will, however, answer the OP.

I am a fan of MANY 10mm handguns because I am a big fan of 10mm.

I like guns like the S&W 1006 and Colt Delta Elite for "show off" guns. The Sig is a nice combo of a fantastic round in a fantastic platform. The Ruger sr1911 is a nice gun to get into the 10mm 1911 platform and it looks good and shoots good from what I gather. The Tangfolio Witness guns are alot of gun for the $$$ and give you a choice of steel or polymer.

From a practical standpoint, Glock is the way to go. Especially for a gun that will actually be used and put through it's paces. After years of being a quiet Glock hater (not running around putting them down every time they are even mentioned like I see on gun forums everyday) myself, I have to admit for your hard earned $$$ they make the most sense for a 10mm. The guns are inexpensive, the aftermarket support is phenomenal. Parts, sights, holsters, etc. They are utterly reliable and handle the 10mm very well with minimal felt recoil but are extremely light compared to the competition. Higher capacity than most other 10mm guns. It's hard to compete with them.

I have the G20 and G29. The G29 has shot so impressive, and with less muzzle flip than I figured, that i have made that my woods gun and carry pistol. The G20 that was my woods bumming gun has now become my house gun and my 9x25 Dillon platform. I'd highly recommend either.
 
mcb said:
10mm is comparable to 357 Mag from similar barrel length handguns. Both top out at about 750 ft-lbs with heavy for caliber bullets. 10mm Auto is far from 44 Mag performance. A 4-inch 44 Mag will easily push a 240 gr to over 1400 fps. That's over 1000 ft-lbs.

I love 10mm Auto but it is not 44 Mag in any way shape or form.
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Agree. It's not even 41 mag equivalent unless shooting the worst 41 ammo ever and hot 10mm.
 
460Shooter said:
Agree. It's not even 41 mag equivalent unless shooting the worst 41 ammo ever and hot 10mm.
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Agreed, now if you go with a 10mm Auto revolver, most can be reamed to 10mm Magnum. 10mm Magnum is nearly on par with 41 Mag and allows for the use of thick robust moonclips, and the additional use of 10mm Auto, and 40S&W with no change to the revolver assuming you didn't get silly and do it to a single action revolver.
 
This has been pretty well wrung out but I'll add a vote for the G20. My first 10mm was a Witness. I loved the look and feel of the gun and it shot reasonably well but sent the brass into low earth orbit. Thanks to ATLDave I finally got the proper advice and shortened the ejector and quit trying to run super heavy springs and now like it a lot.......but it is rather heavy and when I head for the woods I tend to grab the Glock.
 
Purchased an SA XDM 10 after comparing and shooting side by side with Glock 20. The XDM was more comfortable to shoot and with the extra mags promo they had I was sold. I've put about 600 rounds through the XDM so far and no complaints from full power to reduced loads. But I find it best to compare them in person when you can to get the best 10mm handgun for YOU.
 
Devilfrog said:
Purchased an SA XDM 10 after comparing and shooting side by side with Glock 20. The XDM was more comfortable to shoot and with the extra mags promo they had I was sold. I've put about 600 rounds through the XDM so far and no complaints from full power to reduced loads. But I find it best to compare them in person when you can to get the best 10mm handgun for YOU.
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Good to hear! I was excited that SA introduced the 10mm into the XD lineup and was hoping they would prove as reliable and trouble-free as their other pistols.
 
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