A guy at work is offering me a 1930-something hex mosin and an unopened tin of surplus ammo (no sling/bayonet/etc). The last time I bought a mosin was when they were at every gun store around for $150. What is a fair price for a hex mosin and a tin of ammo these days?
What are mosins going for nowadays?
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Surplus 7.62x54r is drying up and so is the surplus Mosin rifles. But what I'm seeing for a hex receiver in good condition (mainly bore condition) are going around $275-300.
I would consider putting a healthy amount of ammo up right away for it as I think that is only going to go up and up in price.
I would consider putting a healthy amount of ammo up right away for it as I think that is only going to go up and up in price.
Yeah, unless you collect they dont make the great buys they used to. I reloaded for my gun, so ammo cost wasnt really an issue. But as cheap shooters i think they are played out.
250-275 for a decent hex isnt anbad offer these days
250-275 for a decent hex isnt anbad offer these days
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I don't know one from the other. I saw them going for $225 2 weeks ago at a gun show. Like the SKS, to me they will always be $80 rifles.
And my Father in Law thinks that 1903's are $25 rifles....times change.
Last weekend at a gun show you are looking at $200+ for one that is not too bad and pretty plane jane. Look for something special, Russian markings not Soviet, or American and the price is well north of there.
With the ability to get a great rifle like the new Savage Axis line, there is really no point in getting a 91-30 unless you just want a WWII rifle. They are still about the best bet cost wise for getting into WWII collecting....perhaps Carcano....they are also inexpensive, but even those are north of $200 now.
91-30 is at best an OK rifle, they are also at best 70 years old and who knows how they got taken care of, or stored, you could get a good shooter or one that could not hit the planet earth if pointed straight down.
I would say look at the reason you want it. The key draws ammo cost and rifle cost are now not a factor, so if you want a full power cartridge rifle there are better choices now.
Upside is that Bubba might start to leave the things alone.
I was going to mention this.
When you can get a great shooting modern bolt gun in a variety of calibers for 300 bucks, a 225$ Mosin doesn't have much appeal.
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yep I bought mine when they were $119 so I have it and its not for sale and its the long one the 91/30 model and mine shoots good! but to me they are getting to high I would like a m44 carbine but I refuse to pay top money for one!
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I bought a crate of 20 Hex 91/30s a few years ago for $1700. There's no way I would buy a crate today. Like others have said, a Mosin at $200 to $300 is not a good deal if you're just looking for a rifle to shoot. Plenty of good modern rifles out there around that price range.
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Are they really going for that much now? I bought post WWI 91/30 about 10 years ago for only $90. It has a hex receiver and fairly nice wood for a 80+ year old rifle. It it weren't so accurate I would sell it for 3x the price I paid for it.
Yeah i was looking for a choped up one for another project and even badly sporterized 91/30s are going for 200-250
And there is no point in that
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I just saw a m44 carbine in excellent condition they wanted $495 I laughed and said good luck! I want a carbine but not at that price!!
Nope, no point for either of us i dont think. I doubt anyone buys them at 200, and they are more than im willing to dump into a project gun.
Bought my last mosin off lgs, for 40 bucks cause it was hard to close the bolt on a round. Thats the kinda deal that i was hoping for when i went looking....
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If it's counterbored it's not worth anything in my opinion, unless you're a collector and it's a rare date or ex dragoon or something. If the bore is in good shape, then it's worth whatever someone will pay for it. If you look on gunbroker there are dozens of 91/30s hex and non for 250 and up, and not one of them is selling. It also depends on if it comes with bayo, sling, etc. In any case, I can guarantee you the ammo is worth more than the rifle itself. I would pay 180-200 for a non counterbored, all matching 91/30 hex with all the accessories.
Just for context, I recently bought an unissued condition M44 with all matching numbers (not force matched) for 275, and a force matched 91/30 sniper that's all correct for 750, and I feel like those were reasonable prices. It's important to distinguish between what people are asking as opposed to what they are getting. Lots of jokers bought up nasty shot up mosins for 80 a pop five years ago, and now they're thinking their ship has come in. A sucker is born every minute so I guess they might get lucky (or rather someone else gets unlucky) at some point, but like I said they're mostly just wasting everyone's time.
Also keep in mind that gun prices are going down right now. I honestly think Mosins will go back down to near where they were five years ago, especially now that the ammunition isn't cheap anymore. They're not collectible (for the most part), they're not good shooters, and the ammo ain't cheap no more; so people are bound to get sick of having a bunch of useless old shot up 91/30s cluttering up their safe. If a mosin is not pristine and all correct then it's just not worth having anymore.
Just for context, I recently bought an unissued condition M44 with all matching numbers (not force matched) for 275, and a force matched 91/30 sniper that's all correct for 750, and I feel like those were reasonable prices. It's important to distinguish between what people are asking as opposed to what they are getting. Lots of jokers bought up nasty shot up mosins for 80 a pop five years ago, and now they're thinking their ship has come in. A sucker is born every minute so I guess they might get lucky (or rather someone else gets unlucky) at some point, but like I said they're mostly just wasting everyone's time.
Also keep in mind that gun prices are going down right now. I honestly think Mosins will go back down to near where they were five years ago, especially now that the ammunition isn't cheap anymore. They're not collectible (for the most part), they're not good shooters, and the ammo ain't cheap no more; so people are bound to get sick of having a bunch of useless old shot up 91/30s cluttering up their safe. If a mosin is not pristine and all correct then it's just not worth having anymore.
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I do agree with you that Mosins are over priced these days, ammo is not as cheap and the price on Mosins will go down in price, but that about it.
By your account this Mosin would not be worth much.
Or most of these.
I would love to see your unissued condition M44 with all matching numbers that's not force matched.
I guess i know whos hording all the mosins
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That's not all of them.I guess i know whos hording all the mosins
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I think there's collector value in all unadulterated mosins, but collector value doesn't necessarily equal monetary value. With that said, I cringe when people chop them up. To me it's just wanton destruction. They're a very historically significant firearm and that alone makes them worth preserving. Everyone should have an example of one in their collection, especially since they're so cheap, and because of that they're one of the few historically significant firearms everyone can have one of. I would like to have an example of each variant at some point. My next acquisition will be a nice M39. I almost got an unadulterated Dragoon, but the guy wanted an obscene price for it. If I remember right he was "trying to get 500 out of it and would just put it back in the safe if he couldn't get that." It was unconverted but it was still counterbored and force matched. Some people...
I think the important thing about preserving the mosins, even the rough ones, is that future generations can handle them and get a feel for what it was like for the soldiers who used them in combat. To actually be able to fire them and feel the recoil, the weight, look through the sights. That's not an opportunity everyone gets with all war era guns. It's living history, and that in and of itself is worth preserving.
No photos of the M44, but it's pretty typical of all the M44s you see on the internet. Just a 46 izzy if I remember right, but in really nice shape.
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Too much to Bubba!
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Counterboring wrecks accuracy. That's why it was done in the first place, to ruin the rifle and make it worthless.
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