What are the chances…

[Speedo66]

that the US Defense Dept. will decide, based on current events, that it wants a larger supply of small arms ammunition in reserve?

If so, with Eastern European steel cased ammo having disappeared from the shelves, I can see a marked increase in all ammo prices as US manufacturers put aside production for the civilian market and concentrate on military orders.

What are your thoughts on this?

 

[bangswitch]

Places like Lake City Arsenal already supply the US with small arms ammo (NATO headstamps), and I would imagine they have enough to start WWIII already stockpiled. But, if they can use this latest brush fire to explain why the populace can't find enough ammo, they probably will.

 

[Steve S.]

Yes, certainly the perfect time to crank more conspiracy theories and fear to initiate even more panic and hoarding to reduce supply and escalate prices. My hobby is behaving like an investment.

 

[DoubleMag]

Ppl aren't responding to this thread just yet, because. They're calling every dealer,stockpiling ammo. 1970s movie, ''the russians are coming! the russ...''

At a certain point, SOON, the credit card will melt & the UPS /delivery man will be filing suit due to hernia strain....

Yes, certainly the perfect time to crank more conspiracy theories and...

 

[Mk-211]

LET THE PANIC BEGIN!!!

CAN YOU DIG IT...

 

[buck460XVR]

Regardless of the reality, I'm sure that seller's will use this for an excuse to once again gouge the gun loving public.

 

[Anchorite]

Never let a crisis go to waste.

 

[Mk-211]

My best advice, don't buy at all. Wait, someone will fill the market and all will be good again!

Panic and you deserve the gouging that you get!

 

[Hartkopf]

I asked a similar question at the beginning of the BS plandemic. Some people called me an alarmist. I guess I caused that two year shortage. Going by recent history (2.5 years), more BS is on the way. Prices and availability of everything will go to hell. Governments have mandated experimental drugs, covered our faces, seized money from political opponents, started wars and internationally caused really high inflation in the last two years. Those are facts that just happened. If you’re not asking yourself “what’s next?” then you might have your head in the sand. Anybody think all that ammo coming out of Taiwan is safe? No matter who “they” are, they will cause our hobbies and cost of living in general to get way more expensive.

 

[Riomouse911]

Never let a crisis go to waste.

The mantra of the Democratic Party for decades.

Normally countries fighting over stuff a continent away doesn’t seem phase me much. For some reason I guess the massive impact on economic issues, plus the ammo embargo that’s sure to follow, are part of why Pootins actions against Ukraine really pissed me off. I truly hope this is a bridge too far for that clown and it ends with Russia regretting every minute of it.

Stay safe.

 

[Hartkopf]

Lots of clowns in this excrement show.

 

[kcofohio]

Ppl aren't responding to this thread just yet, because. They're calling every dealer,stockpiling ammo. 1970s movie, ''the russians are coming! the russ...''

At a certain point, SOON, the credit card will melt & the UPS /delivery man will be filing suit due to hernia strain....

I just came across this the other day. I had forgotten about the movie.

 

[buck460XVR]

With the crap going down in Europe right now, one of the last things I am worried about is the price of ammo. Being retired, the stock market and the availability of my retirement monies is much more worrisome. Having lived thru the Cold War of the 60s and the Cuban Missile crisis, I am concerned about the future of life in the U.S. and the quality of life that my kids and grandkids will have to deal with if this turns into WWIII. My parents/grandparents lived thru gas rationing and food shortages during WWII, yet they didn't have the world wide web to snibble about it. They dealt with it and moved on. They didn't politicize it and try to polarize and divide an already divided nation even more. Watching this crisis over the last few days on the news, I'm appalled at the way the media is making this all about our politics. As if our politicians had everything to do with it. The same news agency that claims to have "seen it coming for years" said nuttin' about this a month ago, yet they wonder why others did nuttin' a year ago. I have nuttin' but compassion for the Ukrainian people. None of us here really know what they are going thru and facing right now. They are the ones that need to be concerned with current ammo availability, not us. I learned a long time ago what unfounded fear does to our economy and the available of ammo/reloading components. Right now I wish I had gold/silver and food stashed like I do ammo and components.

 

[DustyGmt]

Regardless of the reality, I'm sure that seller's will use this for an excuse to once again gouge the gun loving public.

Yep, was just thinking that. Besides steel case, which doesn't represent very much of the pie, as well as US Govt contracts, I don't really see a very good reason for prices to go up but bet your behind, people are going to panic, retailers will take advantage, and as sure as the sun comes up another one of those damn "US ammo buyers line up at "enter sporting goods store name here" to try to buy their daily limit of ammo stories will be showing up in my feed. Damn you!

 

[JCooperfan1911]

What are the chances that conspiracy theory fear mongering will end?

Zero.

 

[lightman]

I seriously doubt that this conflict will effect our ammo prices. Thats just my opinion, and I have been wrong before. Lake City makes Government Issue ammo on a continuing basis and many other civilian ammo plants often get government contracts.

Now, the availability of cheap imported stuff may be restricted. I've never bought cheap steel cased ammo, so I guess I'm not too worried. I know others do, as I see it on the ground at the range and other shooting spots.

 

[Mk-211]

If Lake City said they were going to produce steel case X39, they would have to open another building up!

The demand would swamp them more than their .gov contracts.

 

[herrwalther]

I seriously doubt that this conflict will effect our ammo prices. Thats just my opinion, and I have been wrong before. Lake City makes Government Issue ammo on a continuing basis and many other civilian ammo plants often get government contracts.

I think it will, in a different way. Regardless of Obama and Biden bans on import ammo from Russia, we still get a lot of cheap bulk ammo from the former bloc countries. If East Europe is scrounging for ammo to use in a war, their exports here will go down. So people will buy the brass case better stuff, lowering that supply driving up the cost. Ammo prices were *just* starting to get back to normal.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

With the crap going down in Europe right now, one of the last things I am worried about is the price of ammo. Being retired, the stock market and the availability of my retirement monies is much more worrisome. Having lived thru the Cold War of the 60s and the Cuban Missile crisis, I am concerned about the future of life in the U.S. and the quality of life that my kids and grandkids will have to deal with if this turns into WWIII. My parents/grandparents lived thru gas rationing and food shortages during WWII, yet they didn't have the world wide web to snibble about it. They dealt with it and moved on. They didn't politicize it and try to polarize and divide an already divided nation even more. Watching this crisis over the last few days on the news, I'm appalled at the way the media is making this all about our politics. As if our politicians had everything to do with it. The same news agency that claims to have "seen it coming for years" said nuttin' about this a month ago, yet they wonder why others did nuttin' a year ago. I have nuttin' but compassion for the Ukrainian people. None of us here really know what they are going thru and facing right now. They are the ones that need to be concerned with current ammo availability, not us. I learned a long time ago what unfounded fear does to our economy and the available of ammo/reloading components. Right now I wish I had gold/silver and food stashed like I do ammo and components.

If it gets that bad, gold will be worthless and if you have ammo, you can always hunt/ take food.

 

[redneck2]

you can always hunt/ take food.

Uhhh....no. Sounds good, but the only reason there is plentiful wild game right now is because there is plenty of meat at the grocery store. If meat got that short of supply, every deer and game bird would be dead in a few weeks

When the Great Depression hit, every deer got clobbered. I grew up on a farm and didn’t see a deer until I was in high school, mid 1960’s. Now there are dozens on our farm.

 

[Robert]

Yeah, that's what we need, a thread to fan the flames of paranoia so people run out and start buying everything up again. While I'm sure it's already happening, we don't need to add to it...