What are the chances of ammo coming down in price?

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I think I have sufficient amount of 5.56 (2500 rds), 7.62x39 (850 rds), 45acp (650 rds), and 308 (500 rds). However, I am trying to figured if I should pick up some more 308. there are too many what if situations like...hyper-inflation, someone is going to tax ammo out of existence, or SHTF. On the flipside, what is ammo just come down in price? What are your thoughts.
 
Especially when adjusted for inflation, consumer electronics tend to be less expensive than they were when they were first introduced, due to both extreme competition and rapidly-improving technology outdating was used to be "top-of-the-line" in a short matter of time.

However, none of that applies to ammo. We all screwed.
 
Funny, I was about to post the same question. I don't think they will come down with his Highness, His Royal Majesty, the Obomanation's coronation coming up.

People are going to hoard and bury it deep. Demand will be at an all time high until he leaves office. Hopefully he will be a one termer like Mr. Peanut, Jim 'I am a Wuss' Carter. But the damage he will do will surpass Mr. Peanut and Obomanation will make Carter's reign look good.
 
I'd say buy all the ammo while you still can. I hope that others will do the same.

If ammo prices go up due to demand, thank God, because that mean that we have many like-minded Americans that will stand beside us shall the need arise.
 
I just got off the phone with AIM.

They have plenty of ammo, and were even kind enough to sell me 1000 rounds! :)
 
You've got all the bases covered, as opposed to buying more, get into reloading. Quite literally, more bang for your buck........
 
Ammo will plummet in price....

















right after all the guns are registered, banned, and seized.
 
The price of ammo is primarily driven by commodity prices. The dollar cost of commodities have risen because of the fall in the dollar and the increasing demand for commodities. World economies are slowing down and commodities are coming down in dollar costs. I believe we will see a drop in price of ammunition, although more slowly than the decline in the world market prices of the key commodities used in ammunition.
 
I thought I have seen a little drop recently. What is interesting is if you look at the US dollar exchange rates, our dollar has been gaining a lot of ground in a very short time (last few weeks).
 
Down a little around here. Mostly cause folks aren't buying. Got a box of Federal 50 rounds of .357 Magnum for 21.99 when I wanted to take my snubby straight to range from the shop. Six months prior it had been 27.99. The shops are feeling the pinch around here, even the pawnshop guns are coming down around here. I normally bulk buy and haven't seen any major swift up or down on the bulk side.
 
I thought I have seen a little drop recently. What is interesting is if you look at the US dollar exchange rates, our dollar has been gaining a lot of ground in a very short time (last few weeks).

Banking and money at the international level is very complex, and would take hours to go into. However in our system of fractional banking with no gold/silver standard, the value is highly dependent on who has faith in the dollar.
You see our money is based on debt. Money is either printed, or turned into computer entries based on debt. This is done in a variety of ways. There is other minor considerations like commodities and trade, which can be manipulated through various organizations like the World Trade Organization and others.

Originaly a note was reedemable for something of value, gold etc But now a note is only redeemable for another note, and the worth of that note is based on the debt it is issued against.
Previously most of the debt in America was in the private sector. Most of the wealth and revenue created was also in the private sector.
However the payment of debt by some of the private sector is also less certain. People can default on business loans, home loans etc
Government has recently purchased up a lot of the debt, not just in the recent highly televised 700 billion bailout, but in other areas with smaller chunks here and there. They have insured many against losses etc
Government is a more dependable payer of debt than the private sector, because it has over 300 million slaves that can always simply be taxed more if necessary. So faith in the payment of that debt is much higher because the government will not default on payment of loans given to it by the bankers (who as a result end up controlling it and having tremendous influence in politics.)
However most of the wealth is still being created by the private sector that is taxed, so describing it as just socialist would be oversimplifying. It is more socialist than before.

The bottom line is in the short term that does make faith in the dollar go up, and its value in buying power go up. More of the debt the dollar is based on is now backed by a government that can tax over 300 million of some of the wealthiest people on earth, and not by private citizens that can file bankruptcy or default on loans.
So by turning the citizens into slaves the dollar is stronger.
This is one of the reasons banks long ago learned governments were the best candidates for loans. Bonds can then be sold to similar military powers so the government will not default on the loans, as that would be saying "screw you" to that military power. China is who is being balanced against us now. We certainly are not going to say "screw you" to China. So our debt is a very certain, and backed by an entity that can tax it's people whatever is necessary to pay it. The value of the dollar is higher.

Banking controls the world. The most powerful in banking can decide which nations get along with eachother, who does well and who rises and falls.
There is a reason both President Jefferson and later President Jackson worked very hard to destroy the first and second 'national' (private, just like our current federal reserve) banks, and called them the greatest threat to liberty. Andrew Jackson even put that on his tombstone "I killed the bank" as he believed it was his single greatest achievement.
Woodrow Wilson would 'create' (allow the creation of by private individuals) our third national bank, the Federal Reserve in 1913. Some years later he spoke about what he had done and regreted it and asked for forgiveness for giving up America's freedom.

The removal of the gold standard would further leave the system fully open to manipulation.




Most of the nations of the world are tied together through those banks, and as a result no nation subject to such economies is independant or free of foriegn manipulation. As a result they are not free.
Research who the backers of our own Federal Reserve are. You will find many of the very same people back (control) similar banks of power in other nations in places like Europe, China, etc
Those who control the banks' bank control the economy. Those who control the economy pretty much can decide what happens in the world, who gets along with who, and what is done about various things.
 
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I read a thread on another forum the other day about some states banning lead ammo because of the impact on the invironment. Anybody else heard anything about this? I would hate to stock up on ammo only to have it be illegal to shoot in two or three years.
 
Actually the price of the components will be dropping, according to my source.

That's only a part of the puzzle, though, other war related suppy/demand/production factors, and UN {hawk spit} interdiction factors will continue to apply and squeeze the suprlus and civilian markets.
 
thanks Zoogster for the in-depth explanation. I was surprised to see the US currency increase in value now that we have approved $700+ billion in the bailout plus more to follow like the ones from Palosi is recommending. Hey, lets keep printing $ except add more zeros. Also, how is China continue to lend us money without losing faith and what is keeping them from dumping the dollar. Scary thought but anything is possible.
 
Ammo prices will not come down. Also, at current prices, I've stopped practicing regularly. Sacrilege, I know, but I have other priorities. By the way, the value I place on my stored ammo is not what I paid for it; the value I place on my stored ammo is the current price.
 
What are the chances of ammo coming down in price?

Very high.

But you've got to love these people who have no clue what is going on and simply guess that prices will rise because they have been rising for the last few years.


Here's my reasoning:

The commodity bubble has burst. Oil is under $90/barrel, down from $147 just a few months ago. All commodities are falling for a variety of reasons:

1) Weakened global demand.
2) Rising Dollar (it turns out the credit crisis is not limited to the USA... Europe is also affected by the credit crisis, and so the Euro is down against the Dollar).
3) Speculators have cashed out and everyone and their mothers are fleeing the markets.


So, since commodities (the raw materials and resources that go into producing ammo) are down, the Dollar is up against the Euro (read: cheaper imports), consumer spending will also likely be down due to the dire economic circumstances (read: lower demand), and recessionary forces will lead to deflation. In short: Ammo prices will almost certainly drop.


Unless there's another big war.
 
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