D.B. Cooper
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$0.75 for premium self defense ammo.
I was paying more for that before all the craziness.
$0.75 for premium self defense ammo.
Those of us that have been "hardcore" since the Reagan era and before, have seen ownership of firearms change drastically since then. Amount of firearms owned, types of firearms and what constitutes "enough" ammo are the biggest changes.
If that means I can't shoot every Saturday, then so be it. I'll find something else to do. Just like when beef prices jumped, I ate pork and chicken. When gas prices hit $4 a gallon, I stayed closer to home.
John, it must have hit differently where I live. Sandy Hook, presidential elections- things got hard to find, but not impossible. As I remember it; 9mm fmj went up to around $14 a box or so, for a little while. We saw 22lr vanish awhile, but stores and online would have nearly daily morning "catch it if you can" sales. And things eventually came back to about the same price.IMO, this feels exactly like the past panics, some of which dragged on for years.
In the 80s-90s, two boxes of 30-30 or 30-06, or perhaps one box per rifle you owned was normal. My dad thought I was crazy for having one ammo can full of ammo. I think, for the maority of folks, in the 80s, it was the 1 rifle, 1 handgun (most likely a revolver), and 1 shotgun kind of thing.
I feel ya on that one. I'm in Louisiana, where things are lot more relaxed about shipping, but I just can't seem to find ANYTHING. Of course, with Walmart removing most calibers I use, that's one big "buy it in person" location gone. But places like Academy, etc... gone when I look, and a hassle to enter with the current covid stuff so I don't go a lot. There's a big gun store in town, Jim's (if you ever saw the movie Failure To Launch, it's the store from that movie, where Zooey Deschanel goes to buy a gun to take care of the mockingbird).Guess I need to go photograph some empty shelves for you then. My local store has nothing left in 9mm but tracer ammo-and they have a LOT of it. It is banned at every range in the area; the only place to shoot it is on your own private land. The U.S. Dept. of Transportation banned shipping of ammo to Alaska years ago. My only option is in-person, in-store purchase. I believe California is in that boat as well or will be soon. So I stand by statement: there is no ammo to be had anywhere at any price. If you can still buy JHP ammo, I strongly urge you to buy all you can right now; it's only a matter of time before you have no option available to you at all.
I did get extremely fortunate with that; someone on another forum (S&W) posted about Gold Dots at Targetsportsusa. $399 a case at the end of May. I went ahead and grabbed a case of 124gr 9mm; figure with proper storage I'm now set for a long time regarding SD ammo.I was paying more for that before all the craziness.
I did get extremely fortunate with that; someone on another forum (S&W) posted about Gold Dots at Targetsportsusa. $399 a case at the end of May. I went ahead and grabbed a case of 124gr 9mm; figure with proper storage I'm now set for a long time regarding SD ammo.
Well, that would be pointless since:Guess I need to go photograph some empty shelves for you then.
Well, that's another matter. I must say that I would find that situation very unpleasant and I feel badly for you. Things get a lot more problematic if you can't buy online. So, FOR YOU and others in your situation (which is fairly unusual in the U.S.), your statement is true. For people in most of the U.S. the statement that "there is no ammo at any price" is demonstrably false as they can get ammo if they're willing to poke around a bit.My only option is in-person, in-store purchase.
Well, if they can't find range ammo, they should say they can't find range ammo instead of saying that they can't find any ammo. "There is no range ammo to be had at any price" is very different from "there is no ammo to be had at any price." That said, both statements are false. I just checked the same online supplier I normally use, and, today, they are listing FMJ 9mm for sale in case quantities and at prices that are acceptable to at least some of the people who have stated what they would be willing to pay on this thread. $14 a box of 50.I think you are mincing words.Most people I believe are talking about range ammo.
Well, what you're describing is the way things are now. And I expect that things will eventually come back down to the same price--maybe even lower as they did after the past panic.John, it must have hit differently where I live. Sandy Hook, presidential elections- things got hard to find, but not impossible. As I remember it; 9mm fmj went up to around $14 a box or so, for a little while. We saw 22lr vanish awhile, but stores and online would have nearly daily morning "catch it if you can" sales. And things eventually came back to about the same price.
I will not EVER buy from "Cheaper Than Dirt". Their name is a lie, unless you interpret "Cheaper than" as "Treat you like".Here's some in stock 9mm ammo for the desperate shooter, at a price that has to be seen to be believed.
$400 seems like a heck of a lot but in a couple months it will probably seem like a deal if you can even find it.
If you can still buy JHP ammo, I strongly urge you to buy all you can right now; it's only a matter of time before you have no option available to you at all.
I do not see this sport ever being the same again.
I just don't get this. We've seen all this happen before--not just once, but many times. I'm not sure what it is that drives people to conclude that THIS time (that's exactly like all the past times) is going to be really different somehow.I really wonder if this sport will return to nomal ever again.
Can you imagine getting a like-new 1911 in a shop for that price today, Para or not?
Here's some in stock 9mm ammo for the desperate shooter, at a price that has to be seen to be believed.
9mm ammo CDT
...and if that's too steep for you, they've got steel cased at a bargain price of $29.89
Here's some in stock 9mm ammo for the desperate shooter, at a price that has to be seen to be believed.
9mm ammo CDT
...and if that's too steep for you, they've got steel cased at a bargain price of $29.89
Well, it does add up over time. I purchased a case of self-defense ammo awhile back and having that much provides several benefits. I've tested my SD guns with it and since all of the ammo is from the same case and lot, I have a really good warm fuzzy that any ammo out of that case will work in my SD guns. You always wonder (or at least I do) when you go buy a 20 round box of your SD ammo whether it's really exactly the same as the last 20 round box you bought a year or two ago or if they've changed something and you need to test it again.Yeah, I should hope you never need a case of ammo for SD purposes.
I think it's multiple effects. Part of it is definitely the covid craziness; a lot of us literally have nothing to do for distraction, so these days seem to drag out. I thought a purchase was "awhile back", checked, it's a week. Sure felt longer.I just don't get this. We've seen all this happen before--not just once, but many times. I'm not sure what it is that drives people to conclude that THIS time (that's exactly like all the past times) is going to be really different somehow.
Ammo is still coming in to suppliers. Just from last night to today, I can see that my normal online supplier's stock has changed. Just like in the past panics.
It's hard to find because people are snapping it up quickly when it appears. Just like in the past panics.
Feels different to me. Specifically in the last big panic gun nuts thought ARs and anything black or with evil features would be banned. So they snapped everything up. Along with every magazine over 10 rounds.IMO, this feels exactly like the past panics, some of which dragged on for years.
I just don't get this. We've seen all this happen before--not just once, but many times. I'm not sure what it is that drives people to conclude that THIS time (that's exactly like all the past times) is going to be really different somehow
Amen to a fellow loader.I currently, have about 500 rounds of Federal 147gr HSTs, and over 600 rounds of commercial 147gr fmj as my "backups".
I reload 9mm, so I also have over 1500 rounds of fmj reloads, 1500 rounds of jhp, and the supplies to make around 5000 rounds more if/when needed.
So, for the immediate future, 9mm prices, and supply, don't affect me in any way.
Not every panic has had a .22LR shortage, in fact that was kind of specific to the last one. And gun panics don't always go along with ammo panics--the specific details vary from panic to panic. In that sense, I guess one could say that EVERY panic feels different than any other one. I'm not claiming that this panic is the same in every respect to every panic that came before it--it obviously isn't.Specifically in the last big panic gun nuts thought ARs and anything black or with evil features would be banned. So they snapped everything up. Along with every magazine over 10 rounds.
this time it’s soccer moms and grandmas who think they’re going to have to shoot rioters, and they’re buying every cheap thing they can defend themselves with. That seems to explain why we don’t have a magazine shortage and why 22lr is still on shelves but 9 and 223 are hard to come by.
Sure, they could ALL have been the last time. But none of them were. I'm not saying there won't ever be a last panic, but the odds are against this one being it. There was a furniture store in the area that had "going out of business" sales (EVERYTHING MUST GO!) just about every other month for years. The fact that it finally did go out of business wouldn't have justified freaking out every time it had one of its regular going out of business sales. I'm not saying that things are great or that we have nothing to worry about, but just that maybe it's not quite ready to throw in the towel and assume that everything is lost. For one thing, if this isn't the last one (and the odds are good that it is not) then that kind of talk just makes the panic worse and keeps it alive longer.Last time could have been the last time.
If withdrawing support from the NRA really ends up losing us our gun rights, then it sounds like it would have been better to suck it up and keep supporting what you're implying is the only effective organization standing between us and the loss of our rights to buy guns and ammo.It’s reasonable to believe that with the NRA effectively neutered by FWLP and his suits...