What Bullet for Win 94 .30-30
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rcmodel
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I've shot way more Speer 130 grain and Sierra 125 grain Handloaded varmint bullets through mine in the last 50 years then anything else.
They are very accurate , and flat out slap coyotes down.
If not for that, I'd go with 150 factory loads, as they shoot a little flatter then 170's at typical open sight ranges.
If I lived in bear or elk country, I might reconsider and use 170's.
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They are very accurate , and flat out slap coyotes down.
If not for that, I'd go with 150 factory loads, as they shoot a little flatter then 170's at typical open sight ranges.
If I lived in bear or elk country, I might reconsider and use 170's.
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Badlander
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My Marlin like the Rem Cor loct 150 and 170 bullets equally well
T.R.
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I've been a huge fan of the 30-30 cartridge since I began hunting with my Grandad's carbine in way back in 1968. These are my favorites for accuracy and power:
- Winchester Power Point 170 grain
- Remington core-lokt 150 grin
Good hunting to you.
TR
- Winchester Power Point 170 grain
- Remington core-lokt 150 grin
Good hunting to you.
TR
witchhunter
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Try em both see which one YOUR rifle lies bestest. My 94 like 150's.
LeonCarr
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The Sierra 170 Grain FP Pro Hunter handloaded with RL15 has been a good one for me.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
My rounds too.
ArchAngelCD
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Like said above, a 150gr bullet will shoot flatter than the 170gr bullets but I like heavier bullets in most of my cartridges. (230gr in the 45 Auto, 158gr in the .38 Spl, 124gr in the 9mm, 405gr in the 45-70, ect.) I usually shoot a 170gr jacketed bullet or a 165gr Lead bullet in my 30-30.
Steel Horse Rider
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Is the intended purpose making holes in paper or putting meat on the table? If you are hunting I would probably go with the heavier bullet but for making tin cans jump or ventilating paper the lighter bullet will be easier on your shoulder.
These will be used for hunting which would be mostly deer. I've tried both the 150 and 170 gr and can't see a difference that's why I asked. I'd hate to go with the 150 gr and find I came up short.
Don't think I'd want the lighter stuff as I have to many other rifles to fill that niche.
Don't think I'd want the lighter stuff as I have to many other rifles to fill that niche.
like you, i saw very little difference between 150 and 170gr loads in my marlin 336. however, the 170gr were more accurate by a small margin so that's what i prefer. the hornady leverevolution ammo was just as accurate as the 170gr corelokts, and even shot to the same poi at 100yds.
either the 150 or 170 should do fine for whitetail, so i wouldn't fret too much. just pick one, and practice.
either the 150 or 170 should do fine for whitetail, so i wouldn't fret too much. just pick one, and practice.
Am I the only one thinking lead? OP doesn't specify jacketed, just being torn between 150 & 170. Steel Horse asks good question; punching holes or puttin'meat on the table.
So hows about just shootin for some fun, easy on the ears & shoulder and wallet?
When that's what I want I go Missouri Bullets 135 or 165.Oregon has a laser cast in 170 I believe that many use for hunting. Nothing like shootin some lead for fun & nostalgia because if you get it right you won't get any leading and some good accuracy at half the price. And many of us cast our own.
So hows about just shootin for some fun, easy on the ears & shoulder and wallet?
When that's what I want I go Missouri Bullets 135 or 165.Oregon has a laser cast in 170 I believe that many use for hunting. Nothing like shootin some lead for fun & nostalgia because if you get it right you won't get any leading and some good accuracy at half the price. And many of us cast our own.
I have nothing against lead though I've never shot it in my 94. I have 2 lyman molds for it also just have shot it enough yet to have a good supply of brass.
When I bought the rifle I hit an ammo sale and picked up 12 boxes of Winchester ammo in 150 and 170 gr. I see no difference between the 2 in my shooting. I'm thinking on that note that I'll just stay with the 170 gr.
This is not a gun that I shoot often. For most of the hunting I do here it's bolt action rifle in various calibers. But I wouldn't part with this 94 or the 336C I have, they are to versatile.
When I bought the rifle I hit an ammo sale and picked up 12 boxes of Winchester ammo in 150 and 170 gr. I see no difference between the 2 in my shooting. I'm thinking on that note that I'll just stay with the 170 gr.
This is not a gun that I shoot often. For most of the hunting I do here it's bolt action rifle in various calibers. But I wouldn't part with this 94 or the 336C I have, they are to versatile.
SwampWolf
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My Model 94 Winchester does a little better with the 170 grain bullet in terms of accuracy and, accordingly, it is my "go to" bullet for hunting deer (I've had especially good success with the Remington "Core Loked" bullet).
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"This is not a gun that I shoot often. For most of the hunting I do here it's bolt action rifle in various calibers. But I wouldn't part with this 94 or the 336C I have, they are to versatile. "
These WERE my exact sentiments, UNTIL i put lead through my '92 for the first time. Like you, i found the lever gun to versatile to part with and used to use the bolt gun whenever i hunted. But i still wanted to shoot the lever more and decided that a way to do that would be with some lead. Gave it a try and was pleasantly surprised, and at half the price too. I think you have a golden opportunity to give it a test run also. You'll have more reason to shoot that lever gun.
These WERE my exact sentiments, UNTIL i put lead through my '92 for the first time. Like you, i found the lever gun to versatile to part with and used to use the bolt gun whenever i hunted. But i still wanted to shoot the lever more and decided that a way to do that would be with some lead. Gave it a try and was pleasantly surprised, and at half the price too. I think you have a golden opportunity to give it a test run also. You'll have more reason to shoot that lever gun.
I loaded alternating 150 grain and 170 grain in my Marlin 336 and my shoulder couldn't tell the difference in recoil. Can't tell the difference in accuracy with irons either.
I've also read that some factory 150's are slightly down loaded to 170's velocity so the point of impact will be the same for hunting. Based on all that I prefer 170 grain.
I've also read that some factory 150's are slightly down loaded to 170's velocity so the point of impact will be the same for hunting. Based on all that I prefer 170 grain.
AKElroy
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When I look up these loads, I can find no significant difference between the balistics of the 170 vs. the 150. I have 3 model 94's, and 1 marlin 336. All prefer remmy corelokt 170's. The 336 is a tack driver, and 150's open up its regular 1.25 MOA groups to 2 MOA or so. Just fine for deer, but the 170 shoots just as flat, carries more energy through the target, and shoots better in my guns.
With a flat point, these loads shoot similar trajectories regardless of the weight difference. If your gun likes them both, I would default to the heavier load for deer or pig sized game.
With a flat point, these loads shoot similar trajectories regardless of the weight difference. If your gun likes them both, I would default to the heavier load for deer or pig sized game.
toiville2feathers
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I two 30 WCF rifles, one is a model 64 rifle and one is a 1894 rifle,octagon barrel. The best cartridge for hunting I have found is the old tried and true 150 grain Winchester SILVER TIP. You can load and unload those cartridges numerous times and see no damage to the bullet. Most other bullets, including Win Lubaloy, get screwed up after a couple times through the loading gate.
I am fortunate because I bought every box I could find and I have 11 boxes left for hunting. I know they are antique and their value, but for hunting they are priceless. For plinking and sighting in, I reload with 150 grain hornaday
I am fortunate because I bought every box I could find and I have 11 boxes left for hunting. I know they are antique and their value, but for hunting they are priceless. For plinking and sighting in, I reload with 150 grain hornaday
I have 4 rifles chambered for .30-30
The first 3 are all winchesters, and they seem to like 170gr bullets, I have had good luck with remington Core-Lokt and Hornady inter-lock. I usually use 30.0 grains of H335 with the 170gr bullets
The 4th rifle is an old Savage 99 (I believe it was manufactured about 1915 or 1916 judging by the SN#). I've only had this rifle to the range once, but I tried a variety of loads and to my surprise it seems to really love the Speer 110gr hollow point:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/336780
The best group I had with this rifle and bullet was using IMR 4198, I think it was 23.0 grains...
The first 3 are all winchesters, and they seem to like 170gr bullets, I have had good luck with remington Core-Lokt and Hornady inter-lock. I usually use 30.0 grains of H335 with the 170gr bullets
The 4th rifle is an old Savage 99 (I believe it was manufactured about 1915 or 1916 judging by the SN#). I've only had this rifle to the range once, but I tried a variety of loads and to my surprise it seems to really love the Speer 110gr hollow point:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/336780
The best group I had with this rifle and bullet was using IMR 4198, I think it was 23.0 grains...
50 Shooter
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How well does it do with coated lead bullets? The gun shop by my place has a box of about 500 170gr lead bullets with moly or some other coating on them. If anyone has tried them and they do okay out of a .30-30 let me know. That way I can go snatch them up before someone else does.
tahoe2
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my 94 likes Sierra 150 FP's and H-335 or BL-C2; 2-1/2" to 3"@100 and 5"@200 (that's providing I do everything right!)
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