What Do We Know About The Potowmack Institute?

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Every time I go picking around the web for ammunition in the RKBA debate, I keep running into this Potowmack Institute web site.

It's novel-length and uses extremely tiny text, so I just couldn't bring myself to read that much. However, what we know is that it is an anti-gun research group that goes about proving the collective rights theory.

Most of my examination of their site took place in the "The Quotes, The Quotes" section. (Funny, I thought educated people knew that quote is a verb, and quotation is a noun.)

In it, they take founders' quotations that are often used by the RKBA side, place them in their context, then say "Clearly, [Founder X] means that this is a right only of the select militia."

Much of their reasoning comes from the fact that many of these quotations state that the people should be armed, but the government should not force them to be armed. Their reasoning appears hinky, and they seem to jump to conclusions.

Has anyone on here examined their work more thoroughly than I have?

Do we know if they have any influence? Judging by their web site, it seems like maybe three people work on it.

Have their writings been debated/rebutted in the press?

Thanks.
 
To the best of my knowlege, it's a one man show run by a guy out of his closet. And the guy who runs it is seriously nuts. Uses a fake name, can't understand why major publications don't publish his rambling diatribes, and so forth. IIRC, he even used a fake name on one of his amicus briefs once, a risky thing to do.

Remember, if somebody puts work into it, you can't tell the difference between a website run by a major institution, and run by some guy who lives in his mother's basement. In fact, the major institution probably jobbed the site out TO somebody living in his mother's basement...

It's been a while since I last played with "GEE", (He got rid of his bbs, because it was too much work deleting posts from people who pointed out where he was mistaken, or who mentioned his real name.) but as I recall, he essentially takes the position that even if the founders MEANT for there to be a right to keep and bear arms, there can't be one, because having a monopoly on the use of force is the defining characteristic of government. So any government which DID respect the RKBA would forfiet any claim to legitimacy.
 
From his own description:

The questions simply rephrase the issue. The issue is the relationship between citizen and state. The response on the gun rights ideologies side is that governmental authority can only be tolerated as long as there is an armed populace pointing guns at it. On the other side, it is that the only viable concept of nationhood is where the rule of law, the state's monopoly on violence and the state's internal sovereignty all mean the same thing; that there is a difference between civil society and the State of Nature as indicated in John Locke's The Second Treatise of Government from which the American Revolutionaries and the Framers of the Constitution took their instructions. On the gun rights side is a childish, anarchic political fantasy, a childish concept of the political self and the essence of political cynicism; on the other, the operating concepts of the system we live under. As the United States goes off on a global campaign against terrorism, terrorist states, terrorist harboring states and rogue states the ultimate goal is to establish a viable concept of nationhood in politically dysfunctional parts of the world. It is the nation state in the present world which is still the vessel for the rule of law and political authority. We ought to be able to arrive at some conclusions on what a viable concept of nationahood means in this country.

Short form: Any government that doesn't violate the RKBA is in a state of anarchy. "GEE" has consciously repudiated the basis on which OUR government was founded, in favor of the European ideal it was indended to supplant.

Personally, I think it's handy to have him around, filing amicus briefs which come right out and state where the gun control movement is coming from, witout any effort to sugarcoat the totalitarian implications.
 
Constitutional scholarship is pretty much all on our side by now. It has already started percolating out to the law schools and the judges. It also doesnt hurt that Bush has nominated a ton of conservative judges in the past 6 years.
 
Yeah, the real problem we face is the large number of people in the legal community who don't care if the constitutional scholarship is on our side, either because they think it's a judge's job to interpret the Constitution as meaning the "right" thing, no matter what it DOES mean, or because they care more about upholding precidents than being right.

Either way, the Potwomak Institute, or whatever he's calling it this week, isn't on my list of worries. I actually find his lunacy kind of refreshing, after dealing with people who want tyranny, and who AREN'T honest enough to admit it.
 
Which is why it is wonderful that the Bush admin is ignoring the ABA and vetting all legal positions with the Federalist Society instead. Or so I heard.

As long as we can keep Billary out of the white house, and keep the influence of the federalist society up for the next 4-8 years we may even succeed in overturning certain socialist legal precedents. All we need is for 1-2 of the liberals to tire of waiting for a Democrat to win and we will actually have an unbreakable majority of Thomas/Scalia judges on the court. O'Connor and Rehnquist will soon be replaced with fresh judges and Scalia and Thomas dont look like they are throwing in the towel anytime soon.

I personally suspect that Roberts may actually be a ton more conservative than he seems, and the idea is to make the dems feel that the worst has already happened by the time he nominates a Rehnquist replacement. I have been hoping and praying for Janice Rogers Brown for a long time. Not that I would weep at an Alito or Kozinski appointment.

It is truly awesome to hear on NPR how Bush and the Federalist Society are conspiring to "destroy the constitutional basis for progressive government." Progressive. Hahahaha.
 
Thanks guys.

I found it telling that, in his quotations page, he conspicuously omitted Adams' statement that the Constitution shall never be construed so as to deprive the people of their arms.

Now, alas, the 9th Circus has ruled against the individual rights interpretation, so my territory essentially has no 2A rights, and the supremes are scared witless of ruling on it, either because there was no ruling that wouldn't create a panic, or because they were worried that Sandy would side with the Liberals.

But now, well, Roberts just looks like someone who has a rack of shotguns at his house.
 
Oh, the hours I wasted there. ;)

Notice the odd spelling of "Potowmack" Institute. It used to be "Potomac Institute" but he ran afould of a group that came before him.

These guys: http://www.potomacinstitute.com/

GEE is quite a piece of work.

What was his real name, again? I forgot... but I remember how quickly he deleted the post that dared reveal his true (non-Super Hero) identity.

Rick
 
I recall he once threatened a lawsuit against me for my having pointed out to a court he filed an amicus brief with under that fake name of his, that it WAS a fake name. He dropped the threat when I pointed out he'd have to sue me under he REAL name, and get it splashed all over LOL
 
I'm beginning more and more to defer to the wisdom of Neal Stephenson.

"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game
because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from
-- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
-Cryptonomicon
 
However, what we know is that it is an anti-gun research group that goes about proving the collective rights theory.

Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution. It is the waging of war--that is the bearing of arms--against the United States. These days progun means there is civil right secured by government to commit treason against the same government the NRA wants to secure the right for its "armed citizen guerrillas".

Antigun means we resurrect the original militia concept as manifest in the Militia Act of 1792.

All militiamen are enrolled--that is, registered, conscripted--for militia duty and their private weapons are placed on inventories so they can be called out for public duty to enforce the laws of the Union, repel invasions, and suppress insurrections. That would have to include any insurrection undertaken by the NRA's "armed citizen guerrillas." Today we would call it the Homeland Security Militia.

It may be heavy going for weak minds but see Jeffry Rogers Hummel, “The American Militia and the Origins of Conscription: A Reassessment,” Journal of Libertarian Studies, 2001, published ironically by the very libertarian Ludwig von Mises Institute. In a work richly referenced and unusual for honesty in the present environment, Hummel went searching for an individual right and was very disappointed to discover conscription. If the right is to individual sovereignty, there are no individual sovereigns in a conscript military organization whether the state militia or the regular armed forces. Search Google for “TAMOC:AR”. Don’t tell the pseudoscholars at the NRA or Donald Rumsfeld or John Ashcroft.

J. Norman Heath also went searching for a individual right and found very confused jurisprudence:

“Exposing the Second Amendment: Federal Preemption of State Militia Legislation,”

The collective right and the individual right, the opposites in the great present false legal polarization, are both absurd and meaningless concepts.

GEErnst
 
Do we know if they have any influence? Judging by their web site, it seems like maybe three people work on it.

Have their writings been debated/rebutted in the press?

Three is more than enough. Albert Einstein once said, It only takes one to be right.

You really do have a false perception of really. When have our exalted organs of public enlightenment ever enlightened the public on anything? The most valuable asset the NRA has is the one the NRA calls the "rabidly antigun" Washington Post. Washington Post When you cannot win the right you want in court, the only instrument you have is demagoguery. Demagoguery succeeds when everyone else fails.

GEErnst
 
Most of my examination of their site took place in the "The Quotes, The Quotes" section. (Funny, I thought educated people knew that quote is a verb, and quotation is a noun.)

It is on the difference between "quote" and "quotation" that we will dissolve law and government and institute anarchy. Apply your lexicographer talents to "bear arms" in its original meaning.
 
Much of their reasoning comes from the fact that many of these quotations state that the people should be armed, but the government should not force them to be armed. Their reasoning appears hinky, and they seem to jump to conclusions.

Report this to your lexicographer: There is no "hinky" between "hinge" and "hinny".

Just hope the Congress does not take any instructions from the original design and intent of the Founding generation and start forcing people to be armed. It might require that their private weapons, provided at their own expense, be place on inventories and reported to the president, the congress, and other malignancies of the federal government. They might even be requisitioned for public purposes. The NRA will then be hard pressed to argue it's "armed populace at large" fantasy in court.

Just hope the courts don't jump to any conclusions. Civil rights are not secured by defeating legislation with demagogery. The NRA scams its members to achieve goals that cannot be achieved. You have a civil right secured by government when you stand before a judge charged with a crime. The judge asks, How do you plea, guilty or not guilty? You have the opportunity to say, I plea, not guilty, your honor, on the grounds that the law is unconstitutional. If the judge and higher courts agree, you have a civil right secured by government. No one knows better than the NRA that it has never happened. It cannot happen under any viable concept of a governing authority. That is why the NRA works so hard to defeat legislation and to keep gun rights cases out of court.

"Battle of the Gun Ban"

"NRA Under Fire"

GEErnst
 
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Notice the odd spelling of "Potowmack" Institute. It used to be "Potomac Institute" but he ran afould of a group that came before him.

These guys: http://www.potomacinstitute.com/

GEE is quite a piece of work.

Rick

The Potowmack Institute is a corporation chartered in Maryland. It has 501(c)(3) tax exempt status granted by the IRS. If you want to compete with the Potowmack Institute you can try chartering in Maryland as "Potomac Institute". No one else is now using that spelling. See if it passes the name test.

Even after the name change we still get phone calls from people looking for:
The Potomac Institute for Policy Studies
The Potomac Massage Training Institute
The Potomac Real Estate Institute
The Potomac Language Institute
The Potomac Organ Institute
The Potomac Institute for Graduate Theological Studies (which has been absorbed into another organization)
The Potomac Institute (which existed from the 1960s into the 1980s).
and there is
Potomac, Inc. a political polling outfit.
The Potomac Conservancy has potomac.org.
Most are not sufficiently established to be even listed in directory assistance. We have never heard from any of them, but I keep their numbers handy to direct callers to where they want to go. Of course, we don't want any of them to run "afould" of the Potowmack Institute.

We decided to change the spelling when someone called wanting to donate a junk car to the Potomac Auto Recyclers Institute.

This situation is much better. When you created a presence on the WWW be advised to use an eccentric moniker so people can find you more easily. If "Potowmack" was good enough for George Washington it is good enough for us. The only competition we have now are the Potowmack Landing Restaurant at National Airport and the Potowmack Elementary School in Sterling Va.

The wild imaginations of small minds who don't have any constitutional arguments in their favor are endlessly entertaining.

GEErnst
 
What was his real name, again? I forgot... but I remember how quickly he deleted the post that dared reveal his true (non-Super Hero) identity.

There is in fact more than one person connected with the Potowmack Institute. Rather then confront the realities of political existence, why don't you get all their names, addresses, phone numbers, spouses names, children's names, driver's license numbers and post them all around internet bulletin boards? The courts nevertheless just might read Federalist Paper No. 46 and discover that James Madison was not describing a civil right of the NRA's "armed citizen guerrillas" to walk the streets carrying concealed submachine guns.

GEErnst
 
Logic doesn't even come into play with the following, from The Potowmack Institute. It's just like lefties to say it depends what the meaning of is, is. :rolleyes:

Therefore, to insist on a literal "plain reading" of the text of the Second Amendment despite specific evidence to the contrary is a form of constitutional literalism that, however legitimate for extrapolation of the meaning of provisions of the Constitution and Bill of Rights for today, may do an injustice to the 18th century meaning of those same provisions.

Reality

The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution states: "A well
regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the
right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The
reference to a "well regulated" militia, conjures up a connotation at odds with the meaning intended by the Framers. In today's English, the term "well regulated" probably implies heavy and intense government regulation. However, that conclusion is erroneous.

The words "well regulated" had a far different meaning at the time the
Second Amendment was drafted. In the context of the Constitution's
provisions for Congressional power over certain aspects of the militia,
and in the context of the Framers' definition of "militia," government
regulation was not the intended meaning. Rather, the term meant only
what it says, that the necessary militia be well regulated, but not by
the national government.

To determine the meaning of the Constitution, one must start with the
words of the Constitution itself. If the meaning is plain, that meaning
controls. To ascertain the meaning of the term "well regulated" as it
was used in the Second Amendment, it is necessary to begin with the
purpose of the Second Amendment itself. The overriding purpose of the
Framers in guaranteeing the right of the people to keep and bear arms was as a check on the standing army, which the Constitution gave the Congress the power to "raise and support."

As Noah Webster put it in a pamphlet urging ratification of the
Constitution, "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be
disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe." George Mason remarked to his Virginia delegates regarding the colonies' recent
experience with Britain, in which the Monarch's goal had been "to disarm
the people; that [that] . . . was the best and most effectual way to
enslave them." A widely reprinted article by Tench Coxe, an ally and
correspondent of James Madison, described the Second Amendment's
overriding goal as a check upon the national government's standing army:

As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be
occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to
the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next
article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.

Thus, the well regulated militia necessary to the security of a free
state was a militia that might someday fight against a standing army
raised and supported by a tyrannical national government. Obviously, for
that reason, the Framers did not say "A Militia well regulated by the
Congress, being necessary to the security of a free State" -- because a
militia so regulated might not be separate enough from, or free enough
from, the national government, in the sense of both physical and
operational control, to preserve the "security of a free State."

It is also helpful to contemplate the overriding purpose and object of
the Bill of Rights in general. To secure ratification of the Constitution, the Federalists, urging passage of the Constitution by the States had committed themselves to the addition of the Bill of Rights, to serve as "further guards for private rights." In that regard, the first ten amendments to the Constitution were designed to be a series of "shall
nots," telling the new national government again, in no uncertain terms,
where it could not tread.

It would be incongruous to suppose or suggest the Bill of Rights,
including the Second Amendment, which were proscriptions on the powers of the national government, simultaneously acted as a grant of power to the national government. Similarly, as to the term "well regulated," it would make no sense to suggest this referred to a grant of "regulation" power to the government (national or state), when the entire purpose of the Bill of Rights was to both declare individual rights and tell the national government where the scope of its enumerated powers ended.

In keeping with the intent and purpose of the Bill of Rights both of
declaring individual rights and proscribing the powers of the national
government, the use and meaning of the term "Militia" in the Second
Amendment, which needs to be "well regulated," helps explain what "well
regulated" meant. When the Constitution was ratified, the Framers
unanimously believed that the "militia" included all of the people
capable of bearing arms.

George Mason, one of the Virginians who refused to sign the Constitution because it lacked a Bill of Rights, said: "Who are the Militia? They consist now of the whole people." Likewise, the Federal Farmer, one of the most important Anti-Federalist opponents of the Constitution,
referred to a "militia, when properly formed, [as] in fact the people
themselves." The list goes on and on.

By contrast, nowhere is to be found a contemporaneous definition of the
militia, by any of the Framers, as anything other than the "whole body of
the people." Indeed, as one commentator said, the notion that the
Framers intended the Second Amendment to protect the "collective" right
of the states to maintain militias rather than the rights of individuals
to keep and bear arms, "remains one of the most closely guarded secrets
of the eighteenth century, for no known writing surviving from the period
between 1787 and 1791 states such a thesis."

Furthermore, returning to the text of the Second Amendment itself, the
right to keep and bear arms is expressly retained by "the people," not
the states. Recently the U.S. Supreme Court confirmed this view, finding
that the right to keep and bear arms was an individual right held by the
"people," -- a "term of art employed in select parts of the Constitution," specifically the Preamble and the First, Second, Fourth, Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Thus, the term "well regulated" ought to be
considered in the context of the noun it modifies, the people themselves,
the militia(s).

The above analysis leads us finally to the term "well regulated." What
did these two words mean at the time of ratification? Were they commonly used to refer to a governmental bureaucracy as we know it today, with countless rules and regulations and inspectors, or something quite different? We begin this analysis by examining how the term "regulate" was used elsewhere in the Constitution. In every other instance where the term "regulate" is used, or regulations are referred to, the Constitution specifies who is to do the regulating and what is being
"regulated." However, in the Second Amendment, the Framers chose only to use the term "well regulated" to describe a militia and chose not to define who or what would regulate it.

It is also important to note that the Framers' chose to use the
indefinite article "a" to refer to the militia, rather than the definite
article "the." This choice suggests that the Framers were not referring
to any particular well regulated militia but, instead, only to the
concept that well regulated militias, made up of citizens bearing arms,
were necessary to secure a free State. Thus, the Framers chose not to
explicitly define who, or what, would regulate the militias, nor what
such regulation would consist of, nor how the regulation was to be
accomplished.

This comparison of the Framers' use of the term "well regulated" in the
Second Amendment, and the words "regulate" and "regulation" elsewhere in the Constitution, clarifies the meaning of that term in reference to its
object, namely, the Militia. There is no doubt the Framers understood
that the term "militia" had multiple meanings. First, the Framers
understood all of the people to be part of the unorganized militia. The
unorganized militia members, "the people," had the right to keep and bear arms. They could, individually, or in concert, "well regulate"
themselves; that is, they could train to shoot accurately and to learn
the basics of military tactics.

This interpretation is in keeping with English usage of the time, which
included within the meaning of the verb "regulate" the concept of self-
regulation or self-control (as it does still to this day). The concept
that the people retained the right to self-regulate their local militia
groups (or regulate themselves as individual militia members) is entirely
consistent with the Framers' use of the indefinite article "a" in the
phrase "A well regulated Militia."

This concept of the people's self-regulation, that is, non-governmental
regulation, is also in keeping with the limited grant of power to Congress "for calling forth" the militia for only certain, limited purposes, to "provide for" the militia only certain limited control and equipment, and the limited grant of power to the President regarding the militia, who only serves as Commander in Chief of that portion of the militia called into the actual service of the nation. The "well regula[tion]" of the militia set forth in the Second Amendment was apart from that control over the militia exercised by Congress and the President, which extended only to that part of the militia called into actual service of the Union. Thus, "well regula[tion]" referred to something else. Since the fundamental purpose of the militia was to serve as a check upon a standing army, it would seem the words "well regulated" referred to the necessity that the armed citizens making up the militia(s) have the level of equipment and training necessary to be
an effective and formidable check upon the national government's standing army.

This view is confirmed by Alexander Hamilton's observation, in The Federalist, No. 29, regarding the people's militias ability to be a match
for a standing army: " . . . but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can
never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights . . . ."

It is an absolute truism that law-abiding, armed citizens pose no threat
to other law-abiding citizens. The Framers' writings show they also
believed this. As we have seen, the Framers understood that "well
regulated" militias, that is, armed citizens, ready to form militias that
would be well trained, self-regulated and disciplined, would pose no
threat to their fellow citizens, but would, indeed, help to "insure
domestic Tranquility" and "provide for the common defence."

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Those are the same bromides you offered five years ago.

Yawn.

As hard as the NRA works to keep gun rights cases out of court, the true believers will persist. You have not been paying attention, but much as developed over five years. Our motion to file an amicus curiae brief in Parker has been granted. It is not certain yet if Parker will be litigated. Regardless, other cases will come up. A draft of our brief is in progress. When the courts decide gun rights on their proper terms they will decide them on the terms we have stated them. They have no choice. It is not within the powers of the judiciary to dissolve law and goverment and institute anarchy. The public will be poorly prepared. I anticipate dozens of armed standoffs and hostage takings to the point of Branch Davidian type conflagrations. The "rabidly antigun" Washington Post and G. Gordon Liddy will be able to claim those outcomes among their greatest accomplishments.

You will not be yawning.

GEErnst
 
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Marshall

I would not expect the small, weak minds who show up at a place like this to have original thoughts. You have a civil right secured by government when you stand before a judge charged with a crime... see earlier message. Go out and violate a gun law, surrender to the authorities, and make your argument in court. Francis J. Warin tried that and did not get very far. Judge Garwood's mindless recitation of the quotes--excuse me, the quotations--did not do poor Emerson any good either. You just keep reciting the quotes to numb your mind and you just keep clutching your gun to feel alive. Why don't you also get a voodoo charm to rub to keep away the evil spirits of the New World Order?

GEErnst
 
GEE indulged in a most sleazy tactic.

If he honestly thinks that my conversational, fraternal memo to my supposed ideological kindred was intended as a comprehensive argument of my beliefs, then he's basically masturbating his intellect using my kleenex.

Did you actually attempt to Fisk a three-sentence "what's the deal with this guy?" question? Jesus...

I find the argument that one has to "go out and violate a gun law" laughable. Is it not better to campaign against unjust laws as a group than to be victimized by them individually? Also, while GEE states that nobody has used the 2A as a defense, we've seen repeated SCOTUS cases on exactly that matter. And recently, the court has sided with the Individual Rights view. Only the 2nd and 9th Circuits have veered in the other direction. Meanwhile, it has been the duty of the gun-rights population at large to support these individuals in their legal travails.

I haven't engaged in a deep reading of GEE's material, which is why I asked others about it rather than taking it on myself. (I'm not qualified to do so due to my lack of familiarity.) Based on what I've seen here, however, there's been quite a bit of argumentative sleaze.

He rebuffs the assertion that it takes more than one person to be right. Fair enough. But if someone quotes someone else's argument, does that make that argument any less right? It might mean that the quoting individual lacked the werewithal to create it himself, but that's an ad hominem attack, not an argument.

It comes back to the Treason issue. I would agree that taking arms against the government is treason. However, we must separate the Government from the Constitution. Should the Government stray from and thus betray the Constitution, they themselves would be guilty of treason, and an armed population would in that situation be the only means of doling out the appropriate punishment.

Now, that's all very cut-and-dry, and life is far from it. Finding the tipping point is the trickiest of affairs. Most of the discomfort stems from the idea that a government bent on taking all our rights would naturally seek to destroy one's gun rights first, since those rights would seem curiously out of place in an otherwise "free" nation.

However, I find the two-pronged argument often made against gun rights advocates to be particularly contemptible: "Revolting against the government is a crazy, horrible, morally repugnant undertaking, and why haven't you done it already, you big pantywaist?" I'm not saying that GEE is making that argument, but it's one we encounter quite a bit and I find it often informs the debate.

We don't go right to the cartridge box because it is a last resort. The battle before that stage is far from lost, and has seen numerous advances in recent years. Fighting through the legislatures and in public opinion is the best course right now. The treason that worries GE is not yet called for. Such is the supreme discomfort of living without absolutes.

So, ultimately, I can't argue GEE's main points without thoroughly researching them. I do come from the opposite position, and it is one that I arrived at independent of his writings. My reading, therefore, would be highly skeptical, and thus what I have read has failed to sway me. (Maybe that says more about me than about his work.)

However, based on the argumentative behavior I've seen on this thread, he hasn't exactly charmed me with his integrity. I found the schoolyard taunting of his most recent entries to be particularly telling.
 
I've read enough, thanks.

From page 2 of the draft amicus brief:

Gun rights claims are part of a larger, very cynical political agenda to
reverse the twentieth century transformation of the United States into a modern state capable of managing an industrial society, securing liberty and justice for all, and preforming on the world stage as a great power.

and

From pages 29-30 of the draft amicus brief:

The gun controllers missed their great opportunity to change public discourse on gun violence in September, 2001. With proper knowledge, they would have advocated the creation of a Homeland Security Militia modeled after the Militia Act of 1792. It is consistent with historic practices and completely within the powers of Congress to declare privately owned weapons to be a militia resource and placed on militia inventories with those inventories subject to requisitioning for public purposes (Appendix L). The court would then have opportunity to make a meaningful ruling on an individual civil right to maintain the "armed populace at large" outside of the militia and the militia inventory.
 
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