What do you carry when you cant carry a gun?
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You need another let know. I don't have anything drying cause I have not been cutting but I got a few shafts lying around waiting to be worked on. I still owe @GunnyUSMC one. I got to get to.
TSA is becoming sensitive to the crenelated tops of items as weapons, or so I'm told. Thus, if flying put it in the carry-on and then retrieve it. There is a debate whether those little edges actually add anything to the use of the pen or flashlight as a fighting tool.
Folks seem to like the Zebra line of pens for some that are a little less tactical when flying. I've a Zebra in my pocket and a Surefire in my pants. I found, BTW, that the crenelations had tendency to wear a hole in my pants, so I rounded them off. I don't think that lessens them as an impact weapon.
At the old NTI, we had to do a run with available things in the shoot house. I used my Surefire on bright to theoretically blind a dummy and then pound it. Seemed ok to me, but I was told I should have picked up a nearby tennis racket to use - oh, well. I've noted that the so-called nausea producing strobe lights have gone out of style and you don't hear much about them. I sold mine.
While the gun rags were full of stories how they were wonder ray guns, they didn't pan out. I could stare into mine in a mirror, draw and shoot (blue gun Glock). I know one major shooting school that inserted strobes into targets and had students easily just shoot them. That contradicted some fairly well known shills who claimed the strobes totally discombulated them. I once had my daughter look into one - she said - SO WHAT?
In some FOF with strobes - it was a so what, the main problem was low light and not the flashing. That was just annoying. If you were clearing a house (bad idea) and your target was off center from the strobe - the strobe carrier was just a lighthouse to be 'shot'.
Folks seem to like the Zebra line of pens for some that are a little less tactical when flying. I've a Zebra in my pocket and a Surefire in my pants. I found, BTW, that the crenelations had tendency to wear a hole in my pants, so I rounded them off. I don't think that lessens them as an impact weapon.
At the old NTI, we had to do a run with available things in the shoot house. I used my Surefire on bright to theoretically blind a dummy and then pound it. Seemed ok to me, but I was told I should have picked up a nearby tennis racket to use - oh, well. I've noted that the so-called nausea producing strobe lights have gone out of style and you don't hear much about them. I sold mine.
While the gun rags were full of stories how they were wonder ray guns, they didn't pan out. I could stare into mine in a mirror, draw and shoot (blue gun Glock). I know one major shooting school that inserted strobes into targets and had students easily just shoot them. That contradicted some fairly well known shills who claimed the strobes totally discombulated them. I once had my daughter look into one - she said - SO WHAT?
In some FOF with strobes - it was a so what, the main problem was low light and not the flashing. That was just annoying. If you were clearing a house (bad idea) and your target was off center from the strobe - the strobe carrier was just a lighthouse to be 'shot'.
I always wondered why many tactical pens were emblazoned with Smith & Wesson, Uzi, Cold Steel, etc. Far better to have solidly built BIC, Zebra or Pentel product, or something of hardwood turned on a lathe. The idea would be to not attract attention, no?
herrwalther
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Who makes that one? Looks better than my Kolumb pen. Which was TSA-ignored the last time I flew with it.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015JB8GMS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Powertac https://www.amazon.com/Powertac-Scholar-Tactical-Penlight-Aluminium/dp/B07FNSXJ8S
The flashlight is very useful in my work.
Olight makes a good looking pen/light as well.
https://www.amazon.com/OLIGHT-Lumen...C288S6C/ref=pd_lpo_2?pd_rd_i=B08C288S6C&psc=1
It was just marketing. Stewart Taylor's son had to convince his father to let him do the S&W and Uzi pens. The elder Taylor thought it was a waste of money, but he'd let the younger of the Stewart kids try it. Turned out to be an enormous success for them.
Me, I've carried large Sharpie markers as well as the Scholar all over the world without a second glance (airports they just went in my laptop case with everything else in there).
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Old Dog
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I don't usually have to carry him, but I do take The Dude with me to some places I can't carry a firearm (like when I go on the military bases off-duty). Seriously, though, I always have a small folder (Benchmade Mini-Griptilian at the least), a tactical pen (still sounds stupid) and a MK-3 or MK-4 can of 1.3 O/C.
Jesse Heywood
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had quit carrying due to numerous medical issues.I do use a CS dragon walking stick. My dragon carries a CS para edge (disc.) made in Japan.
had quit carrying due to numerous medical issues.I do use a CS dragon walking stick. My dragon carries a CS para edge (disc.) made in Japan.
LiveLife
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My car ... And I keep driving and driving away from situations where I may need a gun.
I have been carrying S&W Extreme Ops (7Cr17MoV) on top of picture that's withstood the daily abuse of general purpose cutting duties while retaining sharp edge but in recent years, I have found my wife "borrowing" it more and more and currently lives in her pants pocket (I don't think I will get it back, ever).
So after dropping off my sister in law in Nebraska, I stopped by Cabela's in Sidney and found the S&W America's Heroes (3Cr13) for $9.97 and combo Cabela's multi-tool/head lamp for $19.99. I was surprised at the heft and build quality of the multi-tool which I did not expect and like the locking blade. Wife will enjoy the second headlamp she will use for chicken house night work.
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MacAR
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A Case Kickstart Trapper-lock is always clipped to my right pocket. If I think things might be rough, I slip a sap in my hip pocket and swap the Case for a 110 Buck Auto. Keep an old hickory ax handle in the truck toolbox for back-up. Admittedly, walking up and open-hand slapping a mouthy punk, then explaining to him and his buddies what's about to happen, "in a way they can understand", has worked in the past. In the words of Mr. John Dutton: "I'm just meaner than you, son".
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Armored farmer
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John and Beth get quoted around here too.
MacAR
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They get quoted probably too much around our house... But often their words are quite fitting for the occasion. Also: November 7th can't get here soon enough!
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Thankfully, Mississippi is pretty open in terms of where you can carry with the enhanced permit.
In the off chance I were going to a place without my pistol, I guess I’d take either my spyderco endura or possibly one of my smaller fixed blades. Someone earlier mentioned a mouthpiece and padlock tied to bandana. That could be interesting lol.
In the off chance I were going to a place without my pistol, I guess I’d take either my spyderco endura or possibly one of my smaller fixed blades. Someone earlier mentioned a mouthpiece and padlock tied to bandana. That could be interesting lol.
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Rocks gonna win.
theotherwaldo
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I dunno, I'm pretty good with the open hand.
--And I keep a mean pair of medical emergency shears... .
Gus Chiggins
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You carry medical shears? Ok.
Sistema1927
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What do I carry when I can't carry a gun? A Keltec P32 of course. I have actually been wanded going into events, and it has not been detected. (Note that these were not venues where I was in danger of being arrested, simply ones that would have asked me to disarm or leave.)
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