What do you do if you see a grail Gun?

Yeah. I think some of us are living int he past when $50 was a lot of money. Circa 2019. Today, $50 is a pizza dinner. I'm supposed to haggle over a pizza dinner on an item I've been searching for for ten years?
I will say I have made a few impulse grail buys that I have had to rethink after. Not worth regretting but sometimes better to give more thought before buying.
 
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There are only two specimens of my grail gun known to exist. Neither one has come up for sale in the last 30 years, that I am aware. The chance of my finding one is small. But, there is still a chance and I know exactly how much I am willing to spend, today.

And there is also another revolver, not a grail piece, but if it should surface I would buy it just to trade it for something else I want.

Kevin
 
To quote the great philosopher Homer (Simpson), "I have three kids and no money. Why can't I have three monies, and no kids?"

Obviously it's a joke, of sorts. What do I do if I see a grail gun? Keep on walking. I have three kids and one income. I don't get nice things, but I'm okay with it. They do.
I've been searching for a S&W 27-2 for years - here in California they can't be imported from out of state, so are rare and expensive - and found one as I was paying for another gun I'd just bought. I could have swung it, at the expense of my kids. C'est la vie...
 
Buy it. Yuletide 1997 stopped in Sarco when they were still in NJ. There waiting in the racks for me-an 1896 Krag rifle. The centennial of the SA War was in 1998.
Yuletide 2021 stopped by my regular gunshop/range. Waiting in the racks for me -a Weatherby Mark XXII with scope. I paid $500, saw them listed for $800-900 elsewhere.
 
Proof would be needed that the parts kit has a quality Upper receiver (FAL rifle) and that all of it was assembled by a very competent builder.

If assembled by a long-term trusted member of a gun website that can work.
 
Cry a lil inside, question life decisions, etc. But seriously I've got the guns I need, maybe when I get a lil older and manage money more wisely and earn a better wage I will accumulate a few that I don't need and just want. Not to say some guns I have I didn't buy just because I wanted to but there are some high end grail guns that pop up every once in a while.

My buddy is talking about selling his 88 FN BHP and I'm trying to establish a connection to that gun in my head like I need it because we have the same DOB. Lol 😆 Plus it's just an awesome gun I've always wanted in a cartridge I'm most invested in and all my guns are plastic (not all of them really, most) and it would be nice to have one full size steel 9mm. That and a nice Berretta that's been worked on and engraved.
 
I don't really have any grail guns, but i have alot of wants...... honestly if something came up that really hooked me it would be coming home....heck ive brought home enough "good deal!" and "thats cool!" Stuff to be pretty much positive a must have, would be a have.
 
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I don't know if you can do this everywhere or not, but if it's something I'm not sure of, I'll ask (at my shop) them to put it on "hold" for a few days. That's no money down, no penalty, usually for three days. That means I have time to "think about it", research it, to figure out how I'm going to pay for it, etc. Then I can either cancel it, as if nothing happened, or buy it. Actually I usually end up putting it layaway with some money down. Layaway is my friend. (I'm sure my LGS has a pigeonhole in back with my name over it.) I just never get drawn into having more than one on layaway at a time. I've even done the above by phone..."You still got that chrome plated whiz-bang?" You do? Put that on hold for me for a few days. I'll be by to put some money down later. Thanks."
 
I don't know if you can do this everywhere or not, but if it's something I'm not sure of, I'll ask (at my shop) them to put it on "hold" for a few days. That's no money down, no penalty, usually for three days. That means I have time to "think about it", research it, to figure out how I'm going to pay for it, etc. Then I can either cancel it, as if nothing happened, or buy it. Actually I usually end up putting it layaway with some money down. Layaway is my friend. (I'm sure my LGS has a pigeonhole in back with my name over it.) I just never get drawn into having more than one on layaway at a time. I've even done the above by phone..."You still got that chrome plated whiz-bang?" You do? Put that on hold for me for a few days. I'll be by to put some money down later. Thanks."
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If it's truly a "grail gun", wouldn't you already know what the value is and if you would buy it or not?

Exactly!! My "grails" are not something your going to find jumping on the internet to attempt to save a buck or two.

Isn't a "grail gun" a gun you are not likely ever to come across, but if you do and you have the funds, you buy it without hesitation?

It would more than likely end in the big D and I do not mean Dallas.. I'd have a hard time explaining a 6 figure purchase.
 
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I don't know if I've really got a "grail gun" anymore. I've owned most of them at one time or another. One thing I learned though is if you see something you want, you better grab it or it will be gone before you get back from the men's room.

One the other hand, some guns are just "destined" to be with you. Sort of like a puppy that picks you. I've had guns that I've liked, but ignored for weeks hoping someone else would buy it, "so I don't have to." One like that will hang around forever whispering..."buy me...buy me..."
 
I don't know if I've really got a "grail gun" anymore. I've owned most of them at one time or another. One thing I learned though is if you see something you want, you better grab it or it will be gone before you get back from the men's room.

One the other hand, some guns are just "destined" to be with you. Sort of like a puppy that picks you. I've had guns that I've liked, but ignored for weeks hoping someone else would buy it, "so I don't have to." One like that will hang around forever whispering..."buy me...buy me..."
I did that too, even gave a member here the shops contact, waited a few fews, was going to buy a new Beretta 85… then that expensive gun was looking at me like… Come on Bud, they got 60 day layaway… 200% glade I bought it
 
I know in the ball park what something is worth going in. I refuse to over pay even if it is something I am after. If it's a fair price grab it and enjoy.
 
I have bought a couple of them. That being said, I refuse to pay stupid tax just because I want something badly. I have more self control than that.
 
If it's at a LGS and is not priced somewhere in the upper Stratosphere, I might try negotiating the price down a wee bit, but bottom line is that gun is coming home with me today! Now if I didn't have access to the necessary funds to purchase it, I would ask if they have a Layaway plan and take it from there.
 
Step one: I look at the price tag. If it's well outside my budget I'll stop there. If it's close, then ...

Step two: I'll ask the owner/clerk if I can take a closer look. If we're talking rifles I probably won't be allowed to remove the stock and inspect for rust pitting under the stock line, but I'll look as closely as I'm able. Inspect the bore, check for abuse, wear, excessive looseness, buggered screws, etc. If it's a revolver I will ask to snap it a few times and check the lockup and timing. I'll rarely buy a gun that I don't feel confident about shooting. A refinish is usually less of a problem than a bargaining point for me.

Step three: My idea of a grail gun is something I really want to own and probably won't see again. I'll start to work something out. If I don't have the funds right then, a layaway offer is usually my go-to. I have walked at this point, but usually I'll cave and use the plastic if it comes to that.
 
Just finding a grail gun in the wild is good enough for me most of the time. I don’t even actually have to buy it anymore at that point. It doesn’t happen but maybe once every 5 years or so because my grail guns are anything but common and usually more expensive than I am willing to fork out.
 
We have all, myself included, been rather coy about what we consider a grail piece. I am curious what some of you are looking to locate?

There are only two specimens of my grail gun known to exist. Neither one has come up for sale in the last 30 years, that I am aware. The chance of my finding one is small. But, there is still a chance and I know exactly how much I am willing to spend, today.

And there is also another revolver, not a grail piece, but if it should surface I would buy it just to trade it for something else I want.

Kevin

My grail piece? In 1906, the Army held trials for a new sidearm. S&W produced “…about 10…” New Century revolvers (aka TripleLocks) chambered in 45 S&W Special. Two are known to have survived. Realistically, my chance of stumbling over one is less than my odds of winning the Powerball or MegaMillions lottery. I have dreamt of these revolvers so much, I am building a replica to have until the real one shows up!

The other revolver? That is the common as dirt Registered Magnum chambered for the 22 Long Rifle cartridge. I figure if I can get that, I can lure my grail out of hiding!

So, what are YOU looking to add to your collection?

Kevin
 
In my mind, a ‘grail gun’ isn’t a particular brand or model unicorn firearm I’ve longed for. Rather it’s one with a particular provenance or history, and the only one I can think of is the Ruby pistol Grandpop kept under the cash register at his barbershop when I was a kid. It’s in my safe.
 
Assuming you don't have a Secretary of the Treasury to deal with, make offer, see what happens, even if they don't dicker, figure you are buying it at next year's price, fork it over and walk out with it. Since having one like it has been a burning passion, consider it pleasure well spent and don't go to the next two movies you'd like to see.

Assuming you don't have an Entertainment Committee Chairman to deal with.

Terry, 230RN
 
When I was a little kid my favorite movie was "Where Eagles Dare" starring Richard Burton, Clint Eastwood and a ton of MP40s. Ever since that movie premiered I have had an unreasonable lust for an original MP40. However, many start around $24,000 on the lower end so lust is all I'll ever do. Sure, I could go ahead and buy one now but my wife would probably win it in the divorce.
 
When I was a little kid my favorite movie was "Where Eagles Dare" starring Richard Burton, Clint Eastwood and a ton of MP40s. Ever since that movie premiered I have had an unreasonable lust for an original MP40. However, many start around $24,000 on the lower end so lust is all I'll ever do. Sure, I could go ahead and buy one now but my wife would probably win it in the divorce.
Go to Vegas and rent one with 1,000 rounds of ammo. people buy those gun to speculate not to shoot
 
Go to Vegas and rent one with 1,000 rounds of ammo. people buy those gun to speculate not to shoot
As someone who has shot quite a few full autos, I agree. F/A are very fun but once you had shot one a lot, you'd question why you wasted $24k on a gun? Ever since ammo prices went insane, even for primers, I have no more desire to shoot F/A. Just go to a place that rents them, go nuts for a day and you'll likely feel the same. A friend is an FFL07/SOT02 and has has about forty of them and he's let me shoot many of them. Really cool but to own? Nah! Only if I was so wealthy I didn't know what to do with all that money.
 
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