what do you think of 45 degree angle mounted optics?

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Hello Friends,

I have a SUB-2000 in 9mm with the glock 17 grip and I recently added an M-Carbo rail cover and a vortex optics Viper Red Dot which I mounted to a vortex picatinny 45 degree extension. It's pretty neat but I can't shoot it during the crisis since my range is closed.

So, in the meantime, I'm soliciting opinions on the efficacy of such a setup and your alls results. At least in my living room I kinda like it but what do you think?
 
Those setups were popular a few years ago in the 3-gun game. I knew 1 world-class competitor who had one on each side of his competition AR. Another popular setup was to mount one "piggy-back" on top of the magnified optic (often an ACOG). One friend I served with uses 45 degree irons. I'm sure there are still people still using 45 degree setups today, but most shooters I have seen lately tend to just use low to mid-range optics, like 1-6, 1-8, etc.
 
Don't have a 45 optic, but I do have a set of Magpul MBUIS Pro offsets on my 3GUN rig. The Magpul Pros in steel are pretty compact compared to their plastic counterparts and fold completely out of the way when not in use:

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They've come in handy a couple times when a stage calls for distance TGTs and close in's alternating. Other than that, 98% of the time there's plenty of time to zoom in or out while moving between shooting positions. I mounted a folding lever on my Leupold that makes it pretty fast. Most of the guys I compete with are just running a LPVO these days, but the majority of guys are shooting TAC Optics which limits them to one optics and BUIS.

With a LPVO with it's etched reticle I just don't see the value added from a reliability standpoint. IF I put together something like an SPR with a higher low end magnification then it might be useful.

Regardless of your setup, practice with it. Rolling the gun to just the point you can see the BUIS takes a little getting used to.
 
You really have to have a need for it. It describes a rifle which has two disparate purposes, frequently each with immediate turn over, without a middle ground between them. Circumstances, which for most of us, simply don’t materialize often enough to justify that particular kit design - no matter how many folks have put it together because someone online said BUIS or an offset dot are required...
 
My thoughts. Instead or putting money into 2 sets of sights, I'd rather spend the same money on a better primary sight.
 
for 3gun, yes. for practical stuff, i prefer LPVO
 
I've got a similar Sub2k, with a Truglo on a 45 offset. I have a hard time zeroing the thing and shooting through it effectively, although maybe more practice would change that. I'm thinking hard about opening up the rear sight, either to 7/64 with a hand held drill bit, or taking the top half of the peep off entirely to more resemble a traditional rear sight, and adding a laser under the barrel on the rail instead.
 
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