Jeb Stuart
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The greatest deadly weapon I have seen or witnessed is the "Cell Phone", especially text Messaging while driving.
What firearms "terminology" makes you grit your teeth?
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The greatest deadly weapon I have seen or witnessed is the "Cell Phone", especially text Messaging while driving.
dagger dog
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Now days you PRESS the trigger, gone is the squeeze .
Jeb Stuart
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"Black Guns" For God sake, can't even blame the Liberals for that stupid description. Even magazines (reading) with the same title with some tactical looking woman looking like a nut case ready to go off.Sometimes even the Pro Gun enthusiast can be their own worst enemy. Snowflakes love to use the term.
"light crisp Trigger". Sounds like some kind of Batter to fry chicken. Might as well call their gun the Light and crispy. (LCP) LIGHT CRISPY PISTOL
Bet ya can't eat just one!
"light crisp Trigger". Sounds like some kind of Batter to fry chicken. Might as well call their gun the Light and crispy. (LCP) LIGHT CRISPY PISTOL
Bet ya can't eat just one!
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CraigC
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What about this thread is going to turn off new shooters? We're discussing proper terminology. It would be a great thread for a new shooter to read to learn what is and isn't correct. What I don't understand is this attitude that a correction is somehow an insult. We should endeavor to continue learning and have the balls to admit when we're wrong. Mass ignorance is a whole lot worse and THAT is a lot of the reason for much of our political strife.
From Webster's:
boutique
noun, often attributive
bou·tique | \ bü-ˈtēk \
Definition of boutique
2: a small company that offers highly specialized services or products
I see the term "boutique" most often applied to small, specialized ammunition manufacturers like Buffalo Bore, Grizzly, Garrett, Corbon, Underwood or Double Tap. I use the term all the time but if you have a term that better fits, I'm all ears.
Again, is "black gun" not a useful and accurate descriptive term? Should there be no way of using language to differentiate AR's and other military style rifles from traditional sporting rifles? So far every descriptive term that would be used in that role has been listed in this thread as a trigger word such black gun, tactical, MSR, etc.. Yet no alternatives have been submitted. Do we not need such a term? If I want to ask the forum about semi-auto rifles chambered in .308, how would I make the distinction between the AR10, SCAR17, HK91, etc. and the Browning BAR, Remington 7400???
Jeb Stuart
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Pretty much anything other than Boutique. The size of the Manufacturer or one that sells a specialized ammunition probably does not even need to be called anything. Is Hornady "Defense" ammo, there Boutique line? Is a Wilson Combat firearm made from a"Botique" company? May call it a Custom Ammunitions manufacturer would be better. And as you said. "I am open with all ears".
Black guns? sad that the Liberals have turned that term against the real meaning. I guess in some cases you just cannot win.
Black guns? sad that the Liberals have turned that term against the real meaning. I guess in some cases you just cannot win.
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chicharrones
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I gotta admit, I've never seen or heard "boutique" as described in definition #2 above.
Here's what boutique has always meant to me.
- a small store selling fashionable clothes or accessories.
- a business or establishment that is small and sophisticated or fashionable.
- a small store that sells stylish clothing, jewelry, or other usually luxury goods.
What do I know? I'm from southeast Texas and "boutique" and "bespoke" aren't really in the Texican language.
entropy
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Y'all'd probably pronounce it wrong anyway, like Bois D'Arc. 
chicharrones
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Y'all'd probably pronounce it wrong anyway, like Bois D'Arc.
Is that French for barbacoa? Lol.
entropy
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If you like barbequed Osage Orange. I guess.
Jeb Stuart
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Botique-Do a goggle search and look at images. About what the general public gets a picture of when they hear the word. Usually a place I do not shop. Again many times used in a caliber war as a way to demean or make inferior.
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CraigC
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Such as??? The issue here is not with the proper definition of the word "boutique" but that most people associate the word with a place where women shop or get their hair done. Folks may be unfamiliar with the use of it in this context but that does not make it incorrect. Initially, I had the same reaction until I learned what the word actually meant and that it was 100% applicable to this context.
There IS a need to distinguish them from the rest because they offer things the major manufacturers don't. There is a difference and it needs a word.
I've never heard "boutique" applied to bespoke manufacturers like Purdey or Westley Richards.
Ok, now do a Google search for "boutique ammo".
I've never heard it used in that context. Only to describe the type of manufacturers I listed above.
Jeb Stuart
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Hey, if you like using the word "Boutique" go for it. Just not for me. Lol, I have no desire to look up "Boutique Ammo: (not that there is anything wrong with it as Steinfield said)
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I can feel my eyes glaze over when I hear words and phrases like these in any gun related conversation.
Jeb Stuart
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"Burner" are any of the Urban slang.
Stevie-Ray
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Your second is actually my first. "Cutesie" terms give me a real pain in the nether reaches. So much so, many years ago I cut loose on a guy that was talking about his gun. Bushmaster was already being stupidly called Bushy, and he referred to his Dissipator as "my Dissy." I immediately jumped all over him and said, "Oh, no no no, PLEASE tell me we're not now saying Bushy Dissy!" Not one of my finer moments, and I've since pretty much let everything slide. Cutesie terms still bug me, but I generally ignore.
1976B.L.Johns.
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This maybe off topic, as I have read every post and can not believe it is still going!
WOW, get over it!
Yeah, I may regret saying that in the morning........Whatever........
WOW, get over it!
Yeah, I may regret saying that in the morning........Whatever........
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
So only criticism, no suggestions??? Got it.
Jeb Stuart
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So only criticism, no suggestions??? Got it.
Read my post, I said do not refer to them in any way, other than just compare like any other round. And I mean it, you like the word, go for it. I do not really care. Enough of this, let's move on.
silvermane_1
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I also despise the term "high capacity magazines", they are only two types of magazines "standard capacity" and "low capacity" magazines.
Jeb Stuart
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Which one of these is your favorite??
General terms:
Strap, burner, heat, heater, handle, grip, pipe, can, hammer, piece, tool, ratchet, blicky, thing/thang, joint/jawn, chrome, iron, metal, arm, banger, biscuit, flamer, gat, llama, steel, nose, toner, tone, instrument, scorcher, flame-thrower, thumper, jammy
Caliber Specific:
9 millimeter - nine, milli, nina, m&m, nine-mil, mil
.45 caliber - four-pound, pound, fever, five, four-fifth, fifth
.38 - Tre, eight
.22 caliber - Deuce, deuce-deuce, Emmit Smith, Smith ( also slang for Smith and Wesson )
.357 Magnum - Tre-five, Tre-five-seven, Tre-pound, Mag, Trojan, Tre ( occasionally )
.50 AE - Fifty, five-O, point-five
Brand/Type Specific:
Shotgun - Shotti, firestick, flamestick, boomstick, marty-grizzle, grizzle, stick, pump ( pump action only ), gauge, 12, Elmer Fudd, Fudd, walking stick, cane, thump-button
Desert Eagle - Desi, Desert, Eagle, Bird, D-E
Ak-47 - Chopper, K, Forty-seven, Kalashnikov
Uzi - Ooze, machine ( Usually an Uzi, but other sub-machine guns as well )
Smith and Wesson - S and W, S-dub, Smith, Wes
Honorable mention "FO FO" 44.
General terms:
Strap, burner, heat, heater, handle, grip, pipe, can, hammer, piece, tool, ratchet, blicky, thing/thang, joint/jawn, chrome, iron, metal, arm, banger, biscuit, flamer, gat, llama, steel, nose, toner, tone, instrument, scorcher, flame-thrower, thumper, jammy
Caliber Specific:
9 millimeter - nine, milli, nina, m&m, nine-mil, mil
.45 caliber - four-pound, pound, fever, five, four-fifth, fifth
.38 - Tre, eight
.22 caliber - Deuce, deuce-deuce, Emmit Smith, Smith ( also slang for Smith and Wesson )
.357 Magnum - Tre-five, Tre-five-seven, Tre-pound, Mag, Trojan, Tre ( occasionally )
.50 AE - Fifty, five-O, point-five
Brand/Type Specific:
Shotgun - Shotti, firestick, flamestick, boomstick, marty-grizzle, grizzle, stick, pump ( pump action only ), gauge, 12, Elmer Fudd, Fudd, walking stick, cane, thump-button
Desert Eagle - Desi, Desert, Eagle, Bird, D-E
Ak-47 - Chopper, K, Forty-seven, Kalashnikov
Uzi - Ooze, machine ( Usually an Uzi, but other sub-machine guns as well )
Smith and Wesson - S and W, S-dub, Smith, Wes
Honorable mention "FO FO" 44.
Do you consider a 100 round drum magazine to be "standard" capacity for an AR?
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
It's not a matter of liking the word or not. For that matter, I don't "like" it either and for the same reason. However, it is just a word. It has a meaning and it has a useful application. Far as I can tell, there is no substitute. Not only precision but economy of language are important. Whether you recognize it or not, there is a distinction between the ammunition offered by companies like Buffalo Bore, Grizzly, Garrett, Corbon, Underwood or Double Tap and that by the major manufacturers like Winchester, Remington, Federal, Hornady, etc.. It's their reason for being and if you want something like a Punch bullet, 50,000psi .44Mag or 32,000psi .45Colt ammo, the "boutique" manufacturers are your outlet. So we can use the term "boutique" to encompass all of those or we can say "Buffalo Bore, Grizzly, Garrett, Corbon, Underwood or Double Tap and other companies like them" to make the same point. Which makes more sense?
Stevie-Ray
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Can't believe you forgot Deagle. That one was nearly making us puke!
I have 4 40 round mags for my AR. What do you consider those?
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chicharrones
needs more ammo
Third option, "specialty".
Have any of those manufacturers identified themselves or their goods as "boutique"?
I wonder who first took the word boutique and brought it into the firearms world? A gun writer or a marketing agent? Was it to soften the image of firearms? The term sure seems to feminize whatever it is applied to.
For an interesting example of turning something "manly" into something less so.
https://www.booking.com/hotel/au/manly-lodge-boutique-sydney.en-gb.html
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
No idea but marketing doesn't change the meaning of words. This is simply a less common context.
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