What happens after Rittenhouse is acquitted?

[Fine Figure of a Man]

Biden/Pelosi/defamation lawsuit stuff. That opens a whole different kettle of fish. If you are just dying to discuss that, open a new thread please.

A new thread as suggested.
Rittenhouse will be acquitted.
Rittenhouse's life has been permanently altered by the events in Kenosha and standing trial to defend against charges that should not have been brought against him.
Before and during the trial there have been many false and defamatory statements made about Rittenhouse. Some of these statements have been made by people in positions of power and influence. Some people in power have in fact used false and defamatory statements about Rittenhouse to push a political addenda.
Rittenhouse will undoubtedly file multiple lawsuits. I believe he will win most of them and that he is entitled to compensation.
Why do you agree or disagree?

 

[Growlers]

I also agree. Rittenhouse clearly has damages, at the very least, to his reputation. He certainly is entitled to compensation.

Get ready for more BLM "protests" too.

 

[Hartkopf]

Can Rittenhouse squeeze anything out of the Biden estate? I don't think Joe's mental capacity would allow him to stand trial. At least not 3 years from now.

And I agree with Growlers, but I believe we will see a city or 20 burn. Hopefully not but we've seen how the media stokes fires so.......

 

[Spats McGee]

I do not think Rittenhouse will prevail against Biden or Pelosi on defamation claims. They'll claim presidential immunity, legislative immunity, qualified immunity, sovereign immunity, and whatever other immunity they can, then turn the litigation into a huge headache for whoever takes the case.

 

[AlexanderA]

Suing for defamation would be a poor move on Rittenhouse's part. He should just walk away from this and get on with the rest of his life.

A defamation suit would be seen as purely political. It would fan the flames of the predictable unrest that would take place anyway after a "not guilty" verdict.

 

[Jack Ryan]

Hopeful thinking... more BLM riots... thousands more new Kyle Rittenhouses...

 

[Kleanbore]

Rittenhouse will be acquitted.

Perhaps.

Rittenhouse's life has been permanently altered by the events in Kenosha and standing trial to defend against charges that should not have been brought against him.

I agree.

Some people in power have in fact used false and defamatory statements about Rittenhouse to push a political addenda.

I agree.

Rittenhouse will undoubtedly file multiple lawsuits.

I doubt it. I wouldn't advise it.

 

[Alex Clayton]

He will keep some lawyers busy for years and the kid will end up with a huge pay out. Doubt it will be worth it to him but he deserves the huge pay out. The media is showing they will throw gas on the fire and of course get more riots going. As stuff burns the media who started the fire will stand in front of them and call them peaceful. Feel bad for the people living around there who are stuck.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

I doubt it. I wouldn't advise it.

Do you think he might have a case against CBS?

 

[mjsdwash]

He may not be acquitted, regardless of how the jury feels, does anyone really think that guy with the camera was doing anything other than jury intimidation?
Sandman won his defamation suit against the media.
But remember Zimmerman?
Regardless of anyone's feelings on that case, the major media DID alter photos of his injuries, DID alter the 911 call tapes, DID do everything in their power to destroy that guys life during and after trial. They presented him as a racist psychopath serial killer on the prowl for a child victim, and they painted the public opinion to that image using falsified evidence.
Zimmerman lost his lawsuits.
Ultimately Zimmerman was not found to have committed a crime, whereas Rittenhouse undeniably did commit a crime.
I doubt there will be much sympathy unless Rittenhouse correctly paints those shot to have been there to delegitimize the protest and can get the media to run with that. That would be the one logical way for the media to salvage this "tragedy gone to waste", but I think most outlets are too committed now.

 

[armydog]

Rittenhouse will undoubtedly file multiple lawsuits. I believe he will win most of them and that he is entitled to compensation.

I agree and I hope he makes out big. The mainstream media doesn't seem to want to learn from their mistakes of defaming 17 year olds... like Nicolas Sandmann. Oh... but I'm sure it is an honest mistake that in both instances they piled on a young white male/kid with zero other instances of defaming any other person of color or non white origin. They even had to give Zimmerman a hyphen... a White-Hispanic cause he was a Jewish Hispanic. lol Till Zimmerman came along, I have never heard of a hyphenated white this or that. But the Obama administration made racism a hallmark of their administration so now we have white this and that but they made Rachel Dolezal one of their heroes. You can't make this up.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

I doubt there will be much sympathy unless Rittenhouse correctly paints those shot to have been there to delegitimize the protest

None of it is relevant but I believe there already is sympathy for Rittenhouse. The "protest" was actually a riot over the police shooting of a man resisting arrest on a charge of sexual assault. Among those Rittenhouse shot was convicted child rapist Joseph Rosenbaum, who was trying to follow through on his treat to kill Rittenhouse.

 

[Zerodefect]

Lawsuit against CBS.

Wasn't that what happened to Richard Jewel (sp?)?

 

[Kleanbore]

Lawsuit against CBS.

How many successful lawsuits against media organizations do you know of?

 

[Bayou52]

Kyle should be acquitted based on the evidence of the self-defense defense that I'm familiar with.

Should he be acquitted, I would think that he would consider defamation claims against multiple media sources and certain political figures. At the time of the occurrence and the immediate media defamations, Kyle was still a minor child, aged 17 if I'm not mistaken. Not exactly alike of course, but somewhat similar to, the Nicholas Sandman case (the Covington high school case) where the media defamations occurred when the victim was aged 16.

From reports in the news, Mr. Sandman has recovered damage sums via compromise settlements at least against CNN and possibly other media as well. I'm sure his litigations are likely still ongoing...

Just some ideas...

Bayou52

 

[CapnMac]

How many successful lawsuits

This is the crucial question.
The tawdry facts of these trials is that, even with "successful" verdicts, and court orders to pay, plaintiffs routinely do not pay.
Sometimes they appeal based on an inability to pay the awarded amount; sometimes they just ignore the entire order. The tort trial process is so full of cases that the final execution of judgements can "fall through the cracks."

Apparently CNN has not actually done any more than establish an account for the judgement against the Covington kids. The representing lawyers typically will make motions and get their fees paid from the judgement, but any other dollars may go wanting.

Another example of this is the "McDonald's Coffee woman" who was awarded around $5million, but that was reduced to less than a million on appeal, and attorney's fees ate most of that; the defendant came away with almost nothing.

KR will need to, in all likelihood, a long-distance move, and a name change. He's probably not employable under his own name, and will probably be harassed his entire life.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

How many successful lawsuits against media organizations do you know of?

No matter what the number, how would it be relevant?

 

[LiveLife]

What happens after Rittenhouse is acquitted?

Perhaps a book deal, may be documentaries and certainly commentaries by talking heads about what happened or should have happened then news cycle probably will shift to 2022 elections unless something else captivates the media like the SCOTUS gun case - https://thefederalist.com/2021/11/0...-todays-gun-rights-case-in-the-supreme-court/

BLM riots may return but I think the riots helped fuel the record setting gun sales in recent years to the point where fundamental gun culture of younger and older generations as new gun owners becoming the "new normal" - https://www.guns.com/news/2020/11/17/data-us-has-434-million-guns-20m-ars-150m-mags

Rittenhouse's trial may just remind people that attack on a person by multiple attackers can happen anywhere further reinforced by past and future riots to believe more and more the need for personal protection - https://www.kuow.org/stories/the-surge-seattle-area-gun-sales-continue-to-rise-higher

 

[Kleanbore]

No matter what the number, how would it be relevant?

As an indicator of likelihood of success. Plaintiffs very rarely collect on such claims.

 

[Kleanbore]

BLM riots may return but I think the riots helped fuel the record setting gun sales in recent years to the point where fundamental gun culture of younger and older generations as new gun owners may become the "new normal"

What's the connection?

 

[LiveLife]

What's the connection?

In recent years, national riots have been front and center by MSM and social media on 24/7 basis with in-person blow-by-blow coverage (Literally) by attendees/victims on Youtube. While intent may have been to showcase "racial injustice/inequality", what the audience saw, especially by the younger generations (Gen Z, Gen Alpha), was violence and may see firearms as logical choice for personal protection as indicated by rise in gun sales after riots even for cities like Seattle - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/12/are-millennials-moving-right-on-guns-215703/

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

As an indicator of likelihood of success.

Overall rate of success or failure of lawsuits indicate nothing about individual suits.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

[In the Zimmerman case, the media]
DID do everything in their power to destroy that guys life during and after trial. They presented him as a racist psychopath serial killer on the prowl for a child victim, and they painted the public opinion to that image using falsified evidence. Zimmerman lost his lawsuits. Ultimately Zimmerman was not found to have committed a crime ...

The evidence presented at the trial and the post trial interviews of Martin's girlfriend showed that Zimmerman followed dispatch request to wait for the responding officers to arrive. Martin calmly walked to the Greene house, but as he intended to go inside and finish watching a game with Greene's son, the girlfriend convinced him he needed to go "whoop ***" on that homo who had been watching him and keep her on the phone to hear it. So Martin went back, looked for Zimmerman, and attacked him. The media still present it as Zimmerman murdering Martin.

 

[Bazoo]

If he is acquitted, I expect more people to do as he did. Charge into a situation they had no business going. Then when they are on trial, use the "Rittenhouse" defense.

I feel for him, and hope he's acquitted.

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

If he is acquitted, I expect more people to do as he did. Charge into a situation they had no business going. Then when they are on trial, use the "Rittenhouse" defense.

I feel for him, and hope he's acquitted.

I'd look for the cowards that enjoy looting, vandalizing, arson, rioting, etc. to realize their are consequences.