What happens when the police can no longer control criminals? Vigilantes . . .

[Thin Black Line]

A Latino street gang threatened, assaulted, terrorized and murdered black people in Highland Park for six years in an effort to keep them out of their territory, a federal prosecutor alleged Wednesday.

Can you say "Bosnia"? It was such actions that led to factionalism, increases
in vigilantes to protect ones own when LEA's were either unresponsive (or a
direct participant), open warfare, and eventually, if the State is weak, the
break up of that society.

But, no, that hasn't happened in LA since any of us can move to any part
of LA we please....

 

[TallPine]

Vigilante actions are a symptom of a failed state.

I dunno ... I think a successful state is a lot worse

Constant wars, IRS, ATF, TSA, unbearable regulations, fiat money inflation, immense public debt owed to foreign lenders ...

 

[PCGS65]

What do you mean no longer can control crimminals?
Since when could they?

 

[longeyes]

My point wasn't that "Highland Park" was an example of vigilantism but that it is the type of problem, ignored by feckless government, that conduces to vigilantism. These gangs--this is the 43rd St. Gang--are essentially warlords. Of course we don't like to think we have warlords inside the good ol' US of A, but we had them in the past and we certainly have them today. Where there is a vacuum of responsible government, braced by lawful force, you will get both lawlessness and freelance law (vigilantism).

I see this too as a malignant outgrowth of the illegal alien problem and a part that--the cultural aspect--that few are willing to discuss. A lot of our "new immigrants" are, in fact, racist, sexist, and homophobic.

 

[longeyes]

I dunno ... I think a successful state is a lot worse

Constant wars, IRS, ATF, TSA, unbearable regulations, fiat money inflation, immense public debt owed to foreign lenders ...

It's not an either/or. An oppressive, paternalistic state is an abomination. So is an anarchic society overrun by thugs. What lies in-between? The republic of free and responsible citizens aspired to by our Founding Fathers.