Charlie98
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Say what? What are you shooting in it that makes it painful? I've got one, it's got a bit of recoil but nothing to write home to mom about...
What is the Smallest, Lightest Defensive Pistol You WOuld Rely On ?
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Say what? What are you shooting in it that makes it painful? I've got one, it's got a bit of recoil but nothing to write home to mom about...
Carried a Taurus PT25 for quite sometime. Started out with a .32S&W H&R revolver..in 2014. Got a Taurus PT25 and carried that after I got a Shield and couldn't pocket it. Kudos to you who can...trusted my life to a 25 like many have before me. Eventually got my hands on a P32(both Taurus and Keltec are hard to find in my state) and fell in love. Half the width of the Taurus for -2 in capacity and ×2 in fpe. 32 beats 25, and anything beats nothing.
I'd trust my life to ANY caliber and ANY gun as long as I have practiced with it and it proves reliable.
I'd trust my life to ANY caliber and ANY gun as long as I have practiced with it and it proves reliable.
KT P32 was smallest for last 5 yrs
Traded it for a DB9 Gen2 fits well in front pocket 6+1 of 9mm.
Maybe it’s just my limited research but seems to me that not a big difference in ft lbs with 32acp vs 380 but seemed to jump up a bit with 9mm
Traded it for a DB9 Gen2 fits well in front pocket 6+1 of 9mm.
Maybe it’s just my limited research but seems to me that not a big difference in ft lbs with 32acp vs 380 but seemed to jump up a bit with 9mm
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Jeb Stuart
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Love shooting the the Small Guns.
The Pico fully loaded (One very tough Hombre)
The Pico fully loaded (One very tough Hombre)
montanaoffroader
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Taurus TCP or NAA Sidewinder. Tried carrying larger guns, just not compatible with my job. Anything that won't disappear into a pocket spends more time sitting in my toolbox than being carried. A gun sitting in a toolbox 75 feet away does me no good.
When I 'm not at work, I can and do carry larger pistols. I also keep a full sized pistol in my truck, which is visible from my bay door at work. It comes into the house with me at night and goes into the truck when I head to work in the morning, as I generally won't leave a firearm in a vehicle overnight.
Those of you who work on vehicles for a living will know exactly what I mean when I say that crawling under a grain truck to bleed the brakes or squeezing under the dash of a Ford Taurus to put in a brake light switch just isn't practical with a belt carried weapon.
When I 'm not at work, I can and do carry larger pistols. I also keep a full sized pistol in my truck, which is visible from my bay door at work. It comes into the house with me at night and goes into the truck when I head to work in the morning, as I generally won't leave a firearm in a vehicle overnight.
Those of you who work on vehicles for a living will know exactly what I mean when I say that crawling under a grain truck to bleed the brakes or squeezing under the dash of a Ford Taurus to put in a brake light switch just isn't practical with a belt carried weapon.
Jeb Stuart
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I really don't know alot about the body guard. . Solid build quality. A lot of stainless steel as well. Yes they are comparable to size and even recoil is handled very well. I shot one some years ago and liked the gun. But since I do not have a lot of rounds through one, cannot give a complete answer. My guess it is a mighty fine gun. I doubt you could go wrong buying one. I would not mind having one some day myself, but already ammo is killing me as I shoot these gun quite a bit.
FYI, just ordered 500 rounds of PrecisionOne ammo. Ordered on a Thursday arrived on my door step Friday PM. (outdoorlimited.com). Best ammo I have shot in all my 380's. (I live in Va. and their Facility is NC, so that was nice and shipping was not expensive)
tactikel
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My EDC is a Shield, I really want a less than 11 oz .380. Ruger, Kahr, Keltec, Taurus for really hot weather carry.
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Check out a Beretta Pico. Similar price and size as Ruger but stainless steel and a much better trigger in my opinion.
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The very first gun I ever bought was a Colt Jr. Pocket .25 in 1974. It was my CCW gun for about a year. I was a city kid, didn't grow up around guns and knew very little about firearms when I bought it. I was a 21 year old pilot and flew the US Mail for a small aviation company and I got it because my boss told me if I was flying the US Mail, I had to be armed. As time went on, I learned more about guns, and got a S&W 2" .38 spl, which has been about the "minimum" gun I've carried for over forty years. For the last 20 years or so, my EDC has been either a S&W 9mm M6906 or M3913; however, I will admit to carrying a .25 (usually either my Budichowsky TP25 or a Beretta .25) on very very rare occasions when concealment of anything bigger was impossible, and my activities were in what I considered to be a low threat environment. That Colt Jr. Pocket .25, in its original little brown Colt box, resides in my safe now, and will go to one of my kids one day.
ColoradoShooter77
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Ruger EC9s.
someguy2800
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I've never shot a pico. The bodyguard has one of the worst triggers I've ever experienced on a gun.
I'm satisfied with it. It's not much different than the snubby revolver that it replaced.
I'm wondering how the pico stacks up directly against the bodyguard because the pico also has a DAO trigger (which is what I prefer in a pocket pistol). Im finding a bunch of articles comparing each to the lcp2, which is apple/oranges as far as the trigger goes. Would love to hear from someone who has both. Especially regarding build quality.
I'm wondering how the pico stacks up directly against the bodyguard because the pico also has a DAO trigger (which is what I prefer in a pocket pistol). Im finding a bunch of articles comparing each to the lcp2, which is apple/oranges as far as the trigger goes. Would love to hear from someone who has both. Especially regarding build quality.
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Don't own a bodyguard but rented and borrowed several times, after comparison I decided to go with the pico. Trigger is much smoother and dare I say pleasant for stock. Besides the trigger both handled similar enough and no real noticeable difference in sights to me. The big thing to check on a pico is if the slide lock and mag release are usable to you. The slide lock lands on the knuckle of my thumb and while it isn't enjoyable to use it is easy enough for me to operate. Mag release is the paddle style you see on Walther and H&K. The clerk that sold me my pico couldn't run the mag release to save his life but for me it seems to be second nature, so much so he had to tell his coworkers about it. The bodyguard wins for ease of use for sure when it comes to the slide lock but the mag release for me is a wash between the two. My decision came down to the pico having a better trigger, cheaper, and at the time I didn't know the bodyguard is stainless steel (according to the website it is, don't know how I missed that). My pico does have a small lip on the feed ramp that is causing feeding issues but otherwise very nice build, after I polish the feed ramp and take it to the range I'll report back on reliability. Not that it matters but the pico also comes with a nice zippered fabric case, at a glance it just looks like planner or notepad case. Not sure what the bodyguard comes with as far as cases go. Hope that helps.
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I could go on and on about the Pico. I try to keep it under restraint. But pound for pound, or should I say ounce for ounce, it is one of the best built guns I have owned. And the amount and quanity of reliable ammo down range seems to defy pocketguns. I do not think it is a beginners gun. Once you get the learning curve down, controls are easy to use Spend some time with the gun and you will reap huge benefits. Trigger is smooth and deliberate. Sights, magazines, etc. all are top shelf. The Body Guard like I said, I only shot years ago. I do believe they make after market triggers for them. But like I said, they appear to be well built guns. I would be interested to see how well they hold up in the long run. I would suspect pretty good if a all stainless steel build.
Pico Stainless and modular.
somethingbenign, jeb S. Both replys were very helpful. I'm not to worried about the slide stop, as I tend to slingshot little guns like that.
What concerned me most was the unusual looking grip. Seems like a very thin 1 finger situation. I've never seen a magazine extension quite that long either.
With the extension, Hows it fit in your hand for a small gun?
I've read lots of early reports of the firing pin breaking if dry fired? Maybe they have that all worked out by now?
What concerned me most was the unusual looking grip. Seems like a very thin 1 finger situation. I've never seen a magazine extension quite that long either.
With the extension, Hows it fit in your hand for a small gun?
I've read lots of early reports of the firing pin breaking if dry fired? Maybe they have that all worked out by now?
Jeb Stuart
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The Pico is a thin design. However, I have a size large hand and long fingers and I actually feel the grip fits better in my hand than some of my other pocket guns. It anchors very tight in the fatty tissue of my hand between the Thumb and forefinger, feels very solid. The extended grip is actually a very good design for fast drawing in many carry applications. I will not say the Pico is for everyone. It is not. I am a avid pocket gun shooter, so maybe my feeling for the gun will be different from someone that does not shoot often. I do like the extended grip for shooting. And like the gun itself, they are slim as well. Some folks say they shoot better without the extended grip. I did at the beginning but later actually like the longer grip better.
I read before I bought the gun about the broken firing pins and bought a few extra just in case. I guess if you do not use snap caps it could happen. However, I have two Pico's with thousands of rounds between them and have not ever broken one. The gun does have a strong trigger spring and primer strikes are almost non existent except on the cheapest of bulk reloads. And then the DOUBLE STRIKE capable gun took care of that issue on the second strike.
One guy that shoots a lot of pocket guns shot several and then said he liked the Pico so much that it became his main choice, but it could not get use to the grip. He did this. While not my cup of tea, it seems to really make his day. (He fashioned a Hogue grip with a little cutting"
I read before I bought the gun about the broken firing pins and bought a few extra just in case. I guess if you do not use snap caps it could happen. However, I have two Pico's with thousands of rounds between them and have not ever broken one. The gun does have a strong trigger spring and primer strikes are almost non existent except on the cheapest of bulk reloads. And then the DOUBLE STRIKE capable gun took care of that issue on the second strike.
One guy that shoots a lot of pocket guns shot several and then said he liked the Pico so much that it became his main choice, but it could not get use to the grip. He did this. While not my cup of tea, it seems to really make his day. (He fashioned a Hogue grip with a little cutting"
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