What Is Your BUG?
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eric.cartman
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S&W 442 .38 Special +P
hankdatank1362
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Taurus M85 .38 Special loaded with Golden Saber +P
michiganfan
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when I carry one it is a kel tec P3AT
When I wore the tan of a Deputy Sheriff I carried a back up for obvious reasons. But for the life of me I can not under stand why a civilian, who's only claim to fame is that they have a CCW, needs a back up. Well to each his own. In all the years I've carried as a civilian I've never felt the need to carry concealed more than one gun, be it big or small.
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S&W 642 or 325. I'm getting lazy the more I am out in the country and out of the wonderful city, too often it is just a Glock 17 along. I do carry a big knife though!
Ron, although CCWs don't go looking for trouble like peace officers do neither group can schedule or script their next encounter. I travel far from home at odd times in some stupid areas(Richmond southside, Newport News east end, lived there for 9 years). I want to go home at the end of the day just as much as a cop. Two or more guns make perfect sense.
Ron, although CCWs don't go looking for trouble like peace officers do neither group can schedule or script their next encounter. I travel far from home at odd times in some stupid areas(Richmond southside, Newport News east end, lived there for 9 years). I want to go home at the end of the day just as much as a cop. Two or more guns make perfect sense.
FerFAL
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Us lowly civilians shouldn’t worry about BUG?
Besides, cops are also civilians, not that there’s anything wrong with that, right?
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Deacon Blues
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Thru-hikers/adventurers (among others) often repeat an adage, "one is none, two is one." In other words, you really need two of any critical piece of gear that cannot be emulated by another item or fabricated in the wild. The reason is simple: things get lost, broken, or just fail to work at the worst possible moment. Knives, flashlights, and especially firestarters are common one is none items. If you consider a pistol to be necessary for urban survival, it's easy to extend this mentality to your CCW.
In the field, I consider any pistol a BUG, because if you need a firearm out there (and you just might), you ought to have a rifle, IMO. As much as I'd like to carry an M1 carbine to the supermarket (much shorter lines that way), it isn't really practical, so a secondary pistol becomes a valid idea. A pocket pistol is theoretically a good BUG in case you need to be more surreptitious about drawing, or in a rare instance of failure (because you carry a 100% reliable gun, right?). Just some thoughts from a civilian.
In the field, I consider any pistol a BUG, because if you need a firearm out there (and you just might), you ought to have a rifle, IMO. As much as I'd like to carry an M1 carbine to the supermarket (much shorter lines that way), it isn't really practical, so a secondary pistol becomes a valid idea. A pocket pistol is theoretically a good BUG in case you need to be more surreptitious about drawing, or in a rare instance of failure (because you carry a 100% reliable gun, right?). Just some thoughts from a civilian.
The Amigo
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P3at +1
Mtnvalley
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Nibbling at the bait without biting it, I'll simply state that:
A. I respect the badge and the people who do the difficult job that goes with it,
B. There are many civilians with quite a bit more firearms training than the average patrol cop...and quite a few that shoot significantly more often than quarterly.
C. Carrying a BUG presents more options (such as support-side carry if presentation and/or transition is practiced, the "New York reload", etc.). It can also sometimes quickly solve a nasty retention "quarrel".
All that said...I rarely carry a BUG, but do practice with one (P3AT) at least weekly for those occasions when I do. Typically, I only carry it on the one night a week when members of our church go to feed and clothe the homeless.
Given that there are typically 250-350 homeless folks attending this weekly event (scattered over approx 100 yds squared),
about 30-45 clueless feeding the homeless,
5 "security" guys who are unarmed (not even a freakin' whistle or OC), untrained beyond how to put on the t-shirt, and who were actually surprised when I told them that many homeless people carry knives),
and one, count 'em, ONE off-duty LEO wandering around somewhere in the crowd...
I don't think that carrying a BUG is gettin' too tacticool.
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Ala Dan
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BUG's
Mine is either a Kel-Tec P3AT .380 ACP, or a Seecamp LWS-32 ACP. I
alternate 'em out from time too time~!
But, here lately is been the Kel-Tec .380 that has seen the majority
of the duty.
Mine is either a Kel-Tec P3AT .380 ACP, or a Seecamp LWS-32 ACP. I
alternate 'em out from time too time~!
But, here lately is been the Kel-Tec .380 that has seen the majority
of the duty.
Jack A. Sol
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usually it should be a rifle!!
glockman19
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S&W 642/442 or Glock 26
Pax Jordana
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EDC: Kershaw chive (or leek, or blur)
Special occasions/rollin mob deep/official business: Chief's Special .38
Otherwise: running shoes
And civilians certainly do have reasons to carry BUGs. I can't get to an IWB in the car without some finagling, I *can* get to an ankle holster. And, say I'm going someplace where one carry option won't work - leave your primary in the car. It's happened. And reasons aside, defense is a right no matter how many guns knives or cudgels that may require - your approval, though welcome, is by no means requried
Special occasions/rollin mob deep/official business: Chief's Special .38
Otherwise: running shoes
And civilians certainly do have reasons to carry BUGs. I can't get to an IWB in the car without some finagling, I *can* get to an ankle holster. And, say I'm going someplace where one carry option won't work - leave your primary in the car. It's happened. And reasons aside, defense is a right no matter how many guns knives or cudgels that may require - your approval, though welcome, is by no means requried
TexasRifleman
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Another vote for the P3AT. I like that little thing more and more all the time.
wheelgunslinger
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I carry a folding knife as a backup with my 357. Since I don't have a concealed permit, I can't really stack layers of weapons on my person without our ridiculous NC open carry statutes pushing me into the territory of going "armed to the terror of the people." whatever that means.
However, I'm considering getting a CHL, and submitting to the booking process, so that I can carry a small frame 38 BUG when I start carrying a brasspuker as primary.
Darn it.
However, I'm considering getting a CHL, and submitting to the booking process, so that I can carry a small frame 38 BUG when I start carrying a brasspuker as primary.
Darn it.
ACP230
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I usually carry a Smith M649 and sometimes back it up with a second Bodyguard, an M38. This is most common in winter when the M38 goes in my coat pocket. That way I have a gun available to either hand.
I have also carried a Beretta M21A .22 LR as a backup to the 649. In an ankle holster it is easier to get to than my 649 when I'm in the car.
Every so often, usually when fishing where bears have been seen, I carry an N-frame Smith. Then the 649 becomes the backup gun.
I figure it's better to have a BUG and not need it than need one and not have it.
I have also carried a Beretta M21A .22 LR as a backup to the 649. In an ankle holster it is easier to get to than my 649 when I'm in the car.
Every so often, usually when fishing where bears have been seen, I carry an N-frame Smith. Then the 649 becomes the backup gun.
I figure it's better to have a BUG and not need it than need one and not have it.
El Tejon
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Kahr P9, Black Hills ammo.
JohnBT
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I won a bet recently by carrying a P-32 the front pocket of my slacks along with a Rohrbaugh and not having it noticed. Did I need to? No, but they fit easily, leather holsters and all.
Having extra stuff is good, whether extra mags or extra guns.
Just the other day a Richmond City school bus was caught in the crossfire of a running gun battle (probably over drugs or women, but who knows.) The driver and kids weren't hit, but the bus was.
John
Having extra stuff is good, whether extra mags or extra guns.
Just the other day a Richmond City school bus was caught in the crossfire of a running gun battle (probably over drugs or women, but who knows.) The driver and kids weren't hit, but the bus was.
John
fletcher
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I also carry the NAA Mini in .22 Mag as a BUG, but plan to upgrade to a P3AT sometime in the next 6 months or so.
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