gbran
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Crossfire MKI, 12ga over .223.
What kind of gun would you want above all?
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A double barrel shotgun. All I'd need to do is fire off "two blasts" into the woods and anything within 100 miles would turn tail and run. 
Seriously. I've been enjoying the windham weaponry 16FST-308. Can take down nearly anything on four (or two) legs. That or the mossberg 500 spx.
Seriously. I've been enjoying the windham weaponry 16FST-308. Can take down nearly anything on four (or two) legs. That or the mossberg 500 spx.
Balrog, Warp,
The question from the OP didn't contain why others pick what they pick, but why you pick what you pick if all you can is pick one gun for all circumstances given. It is certainly in the spirit of the thread to ask why others choose as they do, but it is not in the spirit of the threat to criticize other people's choices. If you don't envision yourself in all three broad situations described (you do appear to be limiting yourselves to the "fire" scenario) it isn't exactly in the spirit of the thread. If you're saying that the most likely situation you'd find yourself in is going to be the fire scenario compared to the others and you'd base your decision on dashing from a house fire with one gun and then applying it for the days after because you carry every day (or nearly so) and a carry gun makes the most sense for the circumstance even though it won't serve well for the other two then that's fine as well. (BTW, if that was my approach I'd pick a 10mm since it is a proven black bear/boar killer, but I'd like to have it in double stack and cased with a range of upper halves
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The question from the OP didn't contain why others pick what they pick, but why you pick what you pick if all you can is pick one gun for all circumstances given. It is certainly in the spirit of the thread to ask why others choose as they do, but it is not in the spirit of the threat to criticize other people's choices. If you don't envision yourself in all three broad situations described (you do appear to be limiting yourselves to the "fire" scenario) it isn't exactly in the spirit of the thread. If you're saying that the most likely situation you'd find yourself in is going to be the fire scenario compared to the others and you'd base your decision on dashing from a house fire with one gun and then applying it for the days after because you carry every day (or nearly so) and a carry gun makes the most sense for the circumstance even though it won't serve well for the other two then that's fine as well. (BTW, if that was my approach I'd pick a 10mm since it is a proven black bear/boar killer, but I'd like to have it in double stack and cased with a range of upper halves
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With the "wilderness" as one of the criteria, I would feel a bit more comfortable with a shotgun. Think springtime walkabout in bear country. Slugs, buckshot, birdshot would cover most defensive and game gathering needs.
Handgun? something bigger than 9mm
Rifle? maybe 30-30
All these choices are taking the wilderness the main consideration.
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Handgun? something bigger than 9mm
Rifle? maybe 30-30
All these choices are taking the wilderness the main consideration.
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My Springfield M1a. Only with folding stock
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not my guns in pictures. But this would be my combo if I Could have only one... 22 mag rifle would cover any hunting I would need in any life or death survival situation
And 44 mag revolver for SD
Maybe a lighter one than a SRH would be a bit more handy. Those 2 cover all bases I can think of that would need covering. Besides siege of the Red Army.
22 mag rifle would cover any hunting I would need in any life or death survival situation
And 44 mag revolver for SD
Maybe a lighter one than a SRH would be a bit more handy. Those 2 cover all bases I can think of that would need covering. Besides siege of the Red Army.
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For any situation, I want a short barrel over/under 12 gauge with interchangeable chokes. Put a scope on it, can reach out to 100 yards with slugs, take the scope off and it's good for anything inside of 20 yards.
On top of conventional shot shells, I'm gonna pack some adapters to stretch out a bit further. .17 HMR, .22 Mag, and .44 Mag.
The European settlers who came to the America's had for 200+ years single shot muzzleloading shotguns and they got by. A lot of them died, but it wasn't because of their guns.
If I can't have the SBS, then I'd go with a stainless Ruger Old Army with black powder and .45 Colt/ACP conversion cylinders.
On top of conventional shot shells, I'm gonna pack some adapters to stretch out a bit further. .17 HMR, .22 Mag, and .44 Mag.
The European settlers who came to the America's had for 200+ years single shot muzzleloading shotguns and they got by. A lot of them died, but it wasn't because of their guns.
If I can't have the SBS, then I'd go with a stainless Ruger Old Army with black powder and .45 Colt/ACP conversion cylinders.
As versital as rifles & shotguns are, a good handgun is really the only weapon practical to keep handy at all times. I believe my choice would be my HK VP9 LE. Large enough to shoot well, small enough to conceal if need be. 15+1 on hand of an adequately powerful round with relatively lightweight ammo. Yeah it wouldn't be my first choice for hunting, but I've never in my life depended on game I harvested in order to eat and doubt at 55 I'd have great luck doing so now. For me a handgun would give me the most usefulness.
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helitack32f1
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My initial response when reading the OP is the Glock 40 MOS. If I have read the OP right, that is the first gun that came to mind that would work ok for each of the three scenarios. Certainly not the absolute best for each situation but I would choose that because of power, capacity and reliability, carry-ability and conceal-ability. You could survive by hunting with it in the wilderness, protect yourself from humans and really piss off a big bear in the wilderness before it eats you out of pure spite for having pissed it off.
My other thought though on the subject would be a pre Freedom group Marlin 336 straight stock 30-30. Or 45-70 guide gun. Too many choices out there!
My other thought though on the subject would be a pre Freedom group Marlin 336 straight stock 30-30. Or 45-70 guide gun. Too many choices out there!
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In a SHTF type situation my first thought would be my .30 Carbine. It's lighter than my M-Forgery, has the same capacity, and has less muzzle flash/concussion. The obvious draw backs are range and ammo availability.
Then I realized that with my bad foot, I'm not hiking any where. Weight is really of no concern, since I'm going to be static. I've got a ton of magazines/ammo for my AR. It's obviously not a bad choice for anything on two, or four legs in my neck of the deep South. With the Slide Fire Solutions stock it even more useful.
However: If my house caught fire, I'd be more inclined to save either my Luger, or my Colt Woodsman MT.
At work we have a Stevens Over/Under .22LR/.410 combination gun on the shelf. It's got a nylon stock. You could carry everything from bird shot to slugs for the .410, and CB shorts to Mini Mags for the .22LR. I think it would be an ideal survival firearm if forced to gather food. It would serve as a protection gun in a pinch. It's light. The ammo it uses is varied, and light also.
Then I realized that with my bad foot, I'm not hiking any where. Weight is really of no concern, since I'm going to be static. I've got a ton of magazines/ammo for my AR. It's obviously not a bad choice for anything on two, or four legs in my neck of the deep South. With the Slide Fire Solutions stock it even more useful.
However: If my house caught fire, I'd be more inclined to save either my Luger, or my Colt Woodsman MT.
At work we have a Stevens Over/Under .22LR/.410 combination gun on the shelf. It's got a nylon stock. You could carry everything from bird shot to slugs for the .410, and CB shorts to Mini Mags for the .22LR. I think it would be an ideal survival firearm if forced to gather food. It would serve as a protection gun in a pinch. It's light. The ammo it uses is varied, and light also.
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Well, such a scenario actually happened in the 60's.
The Soviets were flying their Soyuz space capsules and frequently had inaccurate landings in Siberia. On early missions the crew carried 9-18 mm Makarovs. However, one time a capsule landed way off mark and the Cosmonauts decided to hike out to a more easily identifiable place to be rescued. After awhile, they noticed that they were being followed by packs of wolves. They (wisely) decided to head back to the capsule and hide inside.
On subsequent flights cosmonauts carried TP-82 shotgun pistols.
The fact that cosmonauts carry shotguns into space even to this day has caused some controversy among wimpy American space planners and politicians. The Russians were asked not to carry them to the International Space Station. They said "nyet".
So, the Russains decided that "if you could only have one gun" it would be the TP-82.
Here is a good article on it: https://medium.com/war-is-boring/so...-a-shotgun-into-space-a9e7852c6da5#.4jopbe53d
The Soviets were flying their Soyuz space capsules and frequently had inaccurate landings in Siberia. On early missions the crew carried 9-18 mm Makarovs. However, one time a capsule landed way off mark and the Cosmonauts decided to hike out to a more easily identifiable place to be rescued. After awhile, they noticed that they were being followed by packs of wolves. They (wisely) decided to head back to the capsule and hide inside.
On subsequent flights cosmonauts carried TP-82 shotgun pistols.
The fact that cosmonauts carry shotguns into space even to this day has caused some controversy among wimpy American space planners and politicians. The Russians were asked not to carry them to the International Space Station. They said "nyet".
So, the Russains decided that "if you could only have one gun" it would be the TP-82.
Here is a good article on it: https://medium.com/war-is-boring/so...-a-shotgun-into-space-a9e7852c6da5#.4jopbe53d
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AR pistol in 5.56 w/8 inch barrel & Shockwave Brace. Short enough to maneuver. Barrel's long enough to generate more energy than most pistol calibers.
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Way too much seriousness going on here.
I change my earlier answer to this.
460V. It's no good for concealment except under a big coat with a shoulder holster, but you can hunt big game with it at reasonable distances, you can kill dangerous game with it, you can use 45 colts for social situations, you can light camp fires with the muzzle blast, you can pound tent stakes into the ground, and who messes with someone carrying that. It slices, it dices, and it'll take lots off different ammo.
I change my earlier answer to this.
460V. It's no good for concealment except under a big coat with a shoulder holster, but you can hunt big game with it at reasonable distances, you can kill dangerous game with it, you can use 45 colts for social situations, you can light camp fires with the muzzle blast, you can pound tent stakes into the ground, and who messes with someone carrying that. It slices, it dices, and it'll take lots off different ammo.
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KSG with the tubes loaded with shot and slugs?
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A PDW in rifle caliber. AR-based PDW, a .300 BLK AR pistol with an 8.5" barrel (or thereabouts). Add a "folding stock adapter" and a brace, and you've got a pretty compact PDW that folds to under 20". It won't replace everything, but it does a lot of jobs reasonably well. A handgun is far more concealable, but underpowered. An AR is a bit more powerful (or to be more precise, has a longer effective range), but far less concealable.
Other alternatives would be something built around a 7.62x39 platform, with a folding stock. Krinkov, etc.
Just my HO.
ETA: it really depends on what you want the weapon to do, of course. Coming from a different perspective, I'd choose a suppressed SA .22lr pistol, like one of the threaded Ruger Mk2/3 types, or an equivalent Browning Buckmark. .22lr makes a great suppressed survival weapon. Nearly silent, and you can carry tons of ammo.
Other alternatives would be something built around a 7.62x39 platform, with a folding stock. Krinkov, etc.
Just my HO.
ETA: it really depends on what you want the weapon to do, of course. Coming from a different perspective, I'd choose a suppressed SA .22lr pistol, like one of the threaded Ruger Mk2/3 types, or an equivalent Browning Buckmark. .22lr makes a great suppressed survival weapon. Nearly silent, and you can carry tons of ammo.
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jim in Anchorage
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And why do you need to conceal your gun?
And why do you need a gun?
...we should know by now that it isn't about "need". It isn't a bill of needs, it's a bill of Rights.
Most people who carry a gun choose to conceal that gun for a variety of reasons. Some are even legally required to conceal, but that's probably beside the point here.
Most people who carry a gun choose to conceal that gun for a variety of reasons. Some are even legally required to conceal, but that's probably beside the point here.
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