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That time of year where I'm gearing up for whitetail and going over some of the internet packing lists it's getting more and more hilarious.

We understand there are basics and beginners need to know what is best for their initial needs, it's the internet scribes personal do's and don'ts which get amusing.

One list item is "take your game camera" and my usual retort is "you are two months late doing that." Another suggested NOT taking disposable water bottles. Ok, maybe they didn't want to see them disposed in the woods, I've hunted 45 years and seen cubes of beer consumed and left behind for decades. Its up to the hunter, you are either a "leave no trace" kind of person or you dump your trash everywhere. Sadly, one out of ten are the latter.

Another writer suggested taking durable light grippy boots with them IN THEIR BACKPACK because they are so good negotiating terrain. I have no comment.

As for backpacks, you can tell the importance of them by the writer linking every high end brand to a website that can sell it to you. And most were over $200. This year? I'm using a 9.99 pack from a large Box Retailer, it's small, uncomplicated, decent brand, camo, and keeps me from hauling the kitchen sink. Because it has few features, it's extremely light. Most around here hike in less than a mile, sit for hours, hike out for lunch at the truck, return until sundown. I have finally adopted that to reduce weight on my ancient brokedown body, and it also allows me to still hunt in and out with some reason other than random wandering. So, I'm ok with a cheap pack now. And yes, it's too small to carry my boots.

Rangefinders. Nice to have - bowhunters I know pace off their stand and put colored tape up to know the distance. $2.99.

Binoculars? I have, and I haven't. In the day they were neck breakers and straps were thin and cut into you. Now it's lightweight foam in place nocs with neoprene and great lenses. At least they keep you awake trying. Special $100 noc slings are - not. For some pros they make or break the hunt, for me? If I can't see it with the naked eye on stand in the trees, I can't shoot it anyway. I might take the 6x32 Leupolds this year.

Knife sharpener. Ooops, you did what? A sharpener can help if you down game and then run your blade over bone or stone. One the other hand the fastest Ive seen a deer dressed was with a 3" Case Trapper and he was (deliberately) paring callous off his hands afterward. Most of the writers suggest a fixed blade and then, there is the Case guy. We do the best we can.

Many writers suggest a compass - a great tool if you are schooled in its use - but they leave out the MAP you need to do 4X better. And the most ignored item, a good map app to locate you on your cell phone. My state has an app to check in your game, too. I'm getting the idea that the folks writing up the lists aren't hunting so much.

Don't forget the rifle, and some suggest a scope. The funniest was the one who said to make sure you pack your scope rings, too.

As for when, the sage advice that you can hunt deer all year round was interesting, they went on to say you can use any rifle, and the last comment was check your state regulations. Which, as we know, are usually inconsistent, tell you what week you can hunt leaving out the other 51, and if you are allowed to use a rifle at all. What sounded like hunt when you want, we know, becomes "they restricted what? I need to use a what kind of cartridge? I can't hunt with 00 Buck now?"

Nope, not so easy after all. It's pretty entertaining, maybe something you might want to surf while in your stand. Just don't fall out laughing too much.
 
Used to be the guy who took everything and to much into the woods. Loaded up my Land cruiser and Offroad camper to the top with what I “Needed”

Now I just go to my brothers hunting camp with Food/Clothes/Gunx2 and Knife.

Minimum in woods also- easier to hunt.
Last time I was in woods- Compass/Knives/Firestarter/paracord and Bow. Simple
 

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For 99% of my hunting, is in hunting areas I am familiar with. Carrying a map is not needed. A small compass COULD BE helpful.
Same with survival kit, spare boots, knife sharpener, game cam ( that's funny ), but don't forget that roll of TP!

Binoculars are a personal decision, some like them. I have tried, too heavy and uncomfortable. Using compacts, don't fit me and I get headaches. I rarely use them.

On the other hand, a hunting trip to a new area, remote area, rugged terrain will cause that pack to change. Compass, map, fire starter, energy bars, water, signal mirror are needed. Up to a point, do you WANT to carry everything, CAN you carry it?

Read the lists and think about your hunt.
This is their true purpose.
 
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Gear lists are very region and terrain specific. About half the stuff on these
lists aren't applicable to the guy on the other
side of the country.
Pretty much universally is your knife, some
water, a fair length of rope, not skinny cord.
Some TP ( i carry the compact kleenex packs) and a snack of some kind.
I always carry a length of bright marking
ribbon for various uses.
Goes without saying your harvesting tools,
bow, supply of arrows or firearm and ammo.
You should be dressed appropriately for your region, and have your identification and
permits/license(s)

Anything else IMO is region/terrain/purpose specific
 
My first real big-game hunting trip was a week long remote Ontario moose hunt. It was the same place as our fishing camp.
I packed up everything that a flatland farmer could think of. Stuffed it all in a backpack. Survival gear, 2x Firestarter, lights, food......etc, etc.....even cookware!
My friend and I set out across a large 3 mile basin overgrown Rocky wilderness dotted with marsh and water. The plan was to emerge on the road on the other side of the basin, hopefully locating a bull moose along the way.
My friend and hunting partner is 6 years my senior. And he was also overloaded with gear.
The long story short, we were exhausted and thinking we had somehow missed our rendezvous point with our ride back to camp. My partner sprawled hopelessly on the rocky ground, trying to cool out from the unseasonably warm temperatures and too much exertion. I searched the landscape for any sign of a roadway ahead. I detected a slight gap in the trees and an unnaturally straight row of rock. Sure enough, it was the roadway, and right there, as planned, was our old trapper guide carelessly napping in the truck.
After everything got back to normal and we had a laugh around the woodstove at the remote cabin, the old trapper said something that I never forgot:

He said, "all that stuff you packed up and carried on your backs can sure enough save you....or it can sure enough kill you too!" "Gun, bullets, permits, knife, water. You can make it with that. Everything else is comfort. "

I also remember his big ol'hairy dog dog lapping up our cooking water that we had collected by laying on our bellies on the dock and breaking ice and carefully dipping up some "clean" lake water !
 
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but don't forget that roll of TP!
The most expensive toilet I've ever used was in the middle of eastern Lapland, approximately 40 miles north of the Arctic Circle. Forgot TP, didn't even have hand towels, it was late season so leaves on the ground were all slick and mushy, but I had my wallet with me.

That emergency dump cost me a €5 bill.
 
but don't forget that roll of TP

The first time my kid ever went mushroom hunting with me (morel for some folks) he was astonished that I went into the woods wearing a t-shirt, but came out sleeveless.

I have a friend who used to tag along with me, hunting whatever I was hunting. Full pack, extra socks, extra shirt, TP, flashlight, waterproof matches, foldable seat, hand warmers etc...
We're going squirrel hunting. 2 miles from the house. If you get lost, yell really loud and your wife will probably hear you. Ok?
 
I was hunting a state park I hadn’t been to before with my 14 yr old son. Went a bit further from road than I thought, a lot further and on way out got spun around- was almost dark, Cell phone bat on last bar. My Buddy Fired a 357 handgun off from the road… Sounded like a distant 22 short. I knew we were far away. Eventually found our way back after a prayer.
Any time I’m somewhere new… I have a Small quality compass with a small Ferro rod and know my direction going in. Even if it’s scouting a new area.

We could have been out there overnight.
 

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I know the title of the thread… Yet I can tell you a important couple items to bring.
And one is A quality knife to Cut/Hack trees… and quarter game, with a quality stone included. Add to that plenty of Paracord. There is just so many uses for paracord.

One is to lash together some 4” small trees you cut down so you can get your game back to your Camp site or vehicle.
A travois is my usual plan. Or Quarter the animal and hang quarters over a large wood limb equal on each side on top and across shoulders.

Not fun to get your animal just before dark and try Dragging it. There are easier ways.
 

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Closest I've EVER came to carrying paracord hunting is the string that keeps the bottom of my tree stand from falling all the way to the ground by accident.

NEVER take any one who is not a blood relative and not even them if they live in the city to any of your hunting spots. 1st clue, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY HUNTING SPOTS OF THEIR OWN.

Never take more than one knife. Make it a GOOD knife and you don't need a sharpening stone for anything less than a week long hunt.
 
I’m usually a Quality medium sized knife and 2nd Folder knife guy. Those SAK saws are dandy for many uses.
I thought paracord was silly and only for those “Survival guys”…. Until I had to quarter out some game without a big frame pack ,since I travel lite.
Not much better than woods hunting with just a Magnum Handgun & Knife. Easy to cover ground that way
 

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Closest I've EVER came to carrying paracord hunting is the string that keeps the bottom of my tree stand from falling all the way to the ground by accident.

NEVER take any one who is not a blood relative and not even them if they live in the city to any of your hunting spots. 1st clue, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY HUNTING SPOTS OF THEIR OWN.

Never take more than one knife. Make it a GOOD knife and you don't need a sharpening stone for anything less than a week long hunt.

RIGHT! I took a buddy of mine hunting one time.(he said he was going to be hunting a lease but then asked if he could hunt with me) I had my tree stand up in the tree already so we took his climbing stand in & locked it on a tree about 50yds away the day before. That morning we met about an hour before first light at the walk in to the woods. He had his new AR hunting rifle, a Walmart sized bag of snacks. I walked in with him to the stands & had to show him where his stand was. I climbed my stand & got ready to hunt, I could hear him clanging his stand climbing the tree. It was still dark & I hear his gun go off.
I called to him "are you OK" he said "Yea I'm just trying to load my gun". (hunting rules state you are not to have a round in the chamber until first light)
The sun comes up & I can't quite see him in his stand but I could see the climbing stand about 4' up the tree. Sunrise that day was like 6:30am by 7:15 I see him wandering through the woods. I climbed down from my stand to see what was wrong. He said he had to relive his self & couldn't find his stand.
I took him back to his stand & found he didn't know how to work the stand so he was using it at 4' up because that was as high as he could climb into from the ground.
On top of that his gun was loaded with safety off pointed at my stand, laying on the bottom of his stand.
My hunt was over at that point, so I packed up & left.

As far as a knife is concerned I carry at least two. You never know something my happen to the first one.
 
Another imperative item I feel is useful to have with me .Depending on game size -In my day pack ,if I carry one. A quality Hatchet can assist in game quartering and getting game out of the Woods… misc other Task. This ones sharp enough to slice paper or Hide.
 

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I'm not just a hunter. I volunteer with a Search and Rescue team and spend a lot of time hiking year round. Some of my gear is used a lot and I need a better pack than I can get for $10. My biggest issue with the ultra cheap ones is they are designed for 10 year old kids and don't really fit an adult male.

I use this. I wouldn't buy it just for hunting a few days each year. But this gets used year round and I often need to carry a fair amount. You don't have to fill it up just because you have the room.

MYSTERY RANCH Scree 32 Pack - Men's | REI Co-op

A trick I picked up in my SAR training is to carry a couple of lashing straps instead of paracord. Not the ones with hooks or a ratchet strap, just these simple ones. They can be used for a lot of things. It is a lot easier to rig one of these up to drag a deer out than trying to use paracord.

Keeper 8 ft. x 1 in. x 200 lbs. Over-Center Lashing Straps (2-Pack)-85243 - The Home Depot

Instead of TP a few napkins "absconded" from a fast food restaurant kept in the pack seems to work better for me. Small packs of baby wipes are always in the pack. They also are great for cleaning up after gutting game.

Equate Everyday Clean Aloe Baby Wipes, 1 Flip-Top Pack (80 Total Wipes) - Walmart.com

That emergency dump cost me a €5 bill.

Been there. I could write a book on my experiences poop'in in the woods. Used gloves, socks, you name it.

I always carry compact binoculars. I can kill a deer without them, but enjoy having them.

There are a lot of very usable knives that won't break the bank. I don't have any true high end knives, but I enjoy having a decent knife. My money, my choice. And two is one, one is none.

I never go into the woods without a compass and GPS, and usually a paper map too. I've found the compass useful several times even without a map. If the road I'm parked on runs north/south and I walk into the woods on the east side of the road all I have to really know is to walk west to get back to the road. And in flat woods on a cloudy day it is easy to get direction confused without a compass.

I've never needed my GPS to find my way home. But it is the most essential tool I use in SAR. Taking it with me in the woods is just 2nd nature. Using it while hunting is good practice. I also like to save my tracks and download them onto Google Earth after I get home as well as keep up with the distance I've walked during the day.
 
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