hugh damright said:
Article IV, Section 2 means that if you go to another State then they have to treat you as equal in some respects. It doesn't mean that if one State has CCW then it is legal in every State. I don't think CCW is within the scope of the P&I, I think it is considered to be a P&I of State citizenship i.e. varying from State to State as opposed to a P&I of US Citizenship.
You might not think it, but it is. It's written in clear English:
"The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States."
This clause is located in the Supreme Law of the Land. As long as you are standing on land... the government must abide by it. If you say you're a Mississippian, then you're a Mississippian. It's that simple. If I'm currently standing on land in Mississippi, but I like the gun "privilege" statutes (notice how I didn't say laws) better in North Carolina... what's your reasoning, as a gov't official, for not upholding the Supreme Law of the Land?? You cannot prove I'm a resident without my permission. Likewise, you cannot prove I'm not a resident of North Carolina.
At any point where a gov't official steps outside the boundary of the Constitution (to protect and maintain individual rights to life, liberty, property, etc.)... that gov't official is acting unconstitutionally, and obviously, unlawfully. Do not be afraid to call these gov't agents out when they are the ones violating their OATH, which can also be found in the Constitution. Only they are bound by anything.
Cosmik de Bris said:
In our law, a privilege is a right protected by law. In our country laws do not *allow* you to do things, they stop you. We probably have similar roots for our legal systems. We start from the position that everything is allowed and then society decrees that you shouldn't do some things.
Most people think of privilege as being allowed to do something (common language use), whereas in law it is a right protected by the law.
Now you're getting somewhere. I have all the rights in the world, until I join your society. So... why in God's name would I remain a part of your society?!?
Everybody will claim that the U.S. is a free society... the freest society, even. Now who will claim that I cannot remain on this land unless I belong to your society? If you did claim the society to work in such a way, it would neither be free, NOR WOULD IT BE A SOCIETY!!
A society is "a group of people, joined by mutual consent, to deliberate for the good of the group".
MUTUAL CONSENT!! Everybody who bitches about how they don't have rights willingly consented to give them up.
I'll go ahead and move along with step 2. What is a statute?
A statute is "a legislated rule of society, given the force of law by the consent of the governed".
Soo... all you have to do is stop consenting, and then these statutes (aka: acts) will not have the force of law over you. Statutes are NOT law!!!
Law applies to every man. Statutes apply only to persons in a society. Get it yet?
ldcarson said:
Hmmmm, last time I checked you do NOT need a licenses to drive a car if you do it on your own property, only required if your on public land. Technically a rich 10 year old could buy a car and drive it on his estate till the cows come home.
That's mostly correct, and a really good start. But who is it, exactly, that owns that public land?? Here's another hint...
"This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me"
Men and women are the creditors for THE UNITED STATES, along with China and some other countries. Laborers are the only true source of any economy in our debt-based system. We are the creditors. The gov't is the debtor.
Every service that the gov't offers you, is for your benefit, is it not??
If the gov't catches you with a pound of weed in your car, then they confiscate ("unlawfully remove your property") it and toss you in jail to eventually go before a judge, who then sentences you to a heavy fine and more time in jail... ALL OF THAT IS A BENEFIT PRIVILEGE FOR YOU!!!
Since you are the creditor, all you have to do is say,
"I reserve all my rights, and I waive the benefit privilege."
(if you can remember to say that, FIRST THING, to a judge... you should never have a problem in court)
If you say that the roads belong to the gov't, you're only seeing half the picture. Who owns the gov't? THE PEOPLE!!!
It's not a privilege for me to travel on my own property. IT'S MY GOD-GIVEN, UN-A-LIEN-ABLE RIGHT!!