whats wrong with 10mm?

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10mm brass is not as common as the other you mentioned for reloading

Yeah and the guns available for it, other than the revolvers launch, it great distances when ejecting making it hard to recover.

One of those great on paper ideas that just doesn't work for most folks. But the slightly shortened and downloaded 10mm became the .40S&W and the rest is history :)

I could buy all the 10mm ammo at any gun show around here and not come back with 500 rounds. Usually the same with .38 Super too.
 
I broke down and bought 1000 new pieces of brass from Starline for around $150 last year. I already loaded all other calibers....... so the rest is no different - large pistol primers, .40 cal bullets and powder.
No problems here.
 
I've heard of people standing on 20'x20' tarps...makes brass collecting simple....I'd probabaly stand on grey side up rather than blue side...of course if i was Top Shot around then it wouldn't matter --but i avoid drawing attention to myself -- LOL
 
I could buy all the 10mm ammo at any gun show around here and not come back with 500 rounds. Usually the same with .38 Super too.

Funny anecdote on that one actually .. I was at the local gunshow this last weekend and was asking around for 10mm brass ...
The only merchant there who had any (which he actually found sorting through his other stuff) actually looked at me and with this pitying look gave me the entirety of his stock ... for free ... six pieces of brass. >.<
 
I have a G29 and have ammo coming out of my ears. On line vendors are plentiful/ The guns are not hard to find. I found several on Gun Broker, I want a new one and my gun shop is getting 6 in in 6weeks. One of them is mine. This whole thing about ammo being hard to find is more Internet hype IMO. Having said that 10mm isn't for everyone. It is for me.
 
I can't wait to get my G20SF. It should be here in about two weeks. I have read about them long enough and can't resist converting to "the dark side". I will start reloading as soon as I can recover from buying the Glock. I figure 500 rounds of Ga. Arms "canned heat" and a 200 round varity pack from Double Tap should be enough for now. Best conclusion I have come to is to reload. PS. I have never shot a 10mm. Just sounds like something I needed. : )
 
so i sold my glock 19...along with some other stuff including my steyr spp(orignal) in 9x19 also(which i just added to the dont buy thread) at my local joint, but i still dont know what i want to replace them with, oh yea, has to have a rail or be able to ad one, to slap this little guy on there, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=571893
 
A pistol.....and you want to put the Docter red dot on it right?

What is this pistol for?
Plinking?
Hunting?
 
yes, im more of a rifle person, so this will be my "do all" handgun(except hunt, i refuse to hunt with a pistol), i would also like it to be bigger than 9x19
 
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I've heard of people standing on 20'x20' tarps...makes brass collecting simple....

That'd do the job for all other calibers, but 40'x40' would be more like if for a lot of 10mm guns.
 
One of my college roommates had an EAA Witness .40S&W back in the mid-90's and it would throw brass 40 feet. When we shot at this outdoor range, people would actually stop and watch, just to see his Witness throw that brass. Didn't seem to be a spring problem - the gun didn't recoil badly and never showed any wear as if the slide was slamming back too hard. It was something to see, though.
 
I have been shooting 10mm handguns for more than 20 years.

IMHO it is one of the most versatile calibers available. You can load it down to powder puff and up to rip snorting 41 mag level loads. I use it mostly for plates and bowling pins - there is nothing better IMHO that a 10mm for pins. It is also a very accurate round when loaded hot. 6" plates at 100 yards are no problem.

The big drawback to 10mm as others have mentioned is that to shoot it a lot without going broke and to utilize its versatility you really have to roll your own. However you can buy reasonably priced Blazer 200 grain plinking ammo for about $20 to $26 a box of 50 rounds. Any SD rounds are crazy priced and not fit for normal SD use INMO due to over penetration and harsh recoil. However they are great for a backup sidearm for hunting or hiking.

As far as the round beating guns to death I would beg to differ. I have 10,000+ rounds of 1200 fps 200 grain JHP loads through my two 10mm handguns and they still run fine and have never broken.

I shoot 10mm in a 6.5" slab comped S&W M610 and comped Colt Delta Elite.
 

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My G20SF is my backpacking gun and I liked it, and the 10mm round, so much I picked up a G29SF for daily carry. Ammo is available in town and from online vendors.

Because of the recoil issues, the FBI downloaded the round. S&W realized they could cut the case back to make it fit in 9mm sized guns and the .40 S&W was born. Glock proved that it was possible, with the G29, to put the 10mm into a smallish gun. I wouldn't want to reload the .40- it's a very high pressure round due to the shorter case.

Everything you ever wanted to know about the 10mm is here.

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I wouldn't want to reload the .40- it's a very high pressure round due to the shorter case.
Ya know 10mm can be loaded to even higher pressure than .40, right?
 
The 10mm is the weakest case head I have tested.

The 25acp, 7.62x39mm with large Boxer primer pocket, and the 30 carbine are not much better.

The 40sw is a stronger case head than the 10mm, and this has a larger effect than the 10mm longer OAL that will fit in the magazines.
 
Nothing is "wrong" with the 10mm.

It is just more expensive to shoot and more powerful then "most" folks can handle. Full power Norma level 10mm's loads are hot. 200 grns at 1200 fps out of a 1911 format gun is not something to treat lightly.

My experience as a long time 10mm shooter is folks are suprised at the power of full loads, can't handle it and immediately blame the round for bad accuracy or other problems. Since my custom Baer is a 1.5" guarantee at 50 yard gun, the accuracy problem is theirs not the gun. It is just more then they can handle.

The real beauty of the 10mm is if you reload (how else would you shoot 10mm) you can take it down to 40 short and weak levels and still have fun with your brawny 10mm's.
 
I own several Glocks and carry a Glock 27 as my CC gun of choice. I usually carry 40s&w rounds in it, but with the conversion barrels that I own, I have carried 357sig & 9mm ammo in it. I like options, for that reason I have been looking at a 10mm conversion barrel for my Glock 21. I would have to replace the ejector before firing 10mm out of it, but that is easy enough to do. Then the G21 would fire 45acp, 10mm & 22LR (I bought an Advantage Arms 22Conversion kit that has been 100% reliable).

I might break down and purchase a G20 and forgo another conversion barrel, but that would postpone my Glock 35 purchase...Damn, too many guns & not enough money.
 
Well I wouldn't recomend a 10mm for a newb or even an intermediate shooter, but if you've got the other calibers and want something different that everybody and their brother doesn't have it's a nice option.

To really get it's full potential though you need to be into reloading and once again I wouldn't recomend it as your first caliber to start learning on. Most factory loadings are watered down to .40 S&W levels. The .40 was actually based on the watered down 10mm loadings the FBI was using. The guys at S&W came up with the idea of shortening the brass since the load was not using as much powder, and now it would fit in a 9mm sized pistol rather than the bigger .45 size guns a 10mm required. The .40 then quickly surpassed it's parent and the rest is history.

10mm is an amazingly versatile caliber that can be loaded down to .40 levels or up to some really smokin' nuclear loads that reach the .357 magnum and even low .41 magnum levels. Something no other common pistol calibers are capable of. Bullet weights can go from 9mm type 135 gr all the way to 220gr .45 type of weights. The 10mm can be loaded for just about any purpose you want from a pistol.


And don't let people kid you that its some uncontrollable monster that'll rip your arm off. I've owned two 10mm both full-size.

My current 10mm a Glock 20

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and a Witness I sold to a friend.

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Both offer excellent control and shootability even with the hottest nuclear loads.


Now the Witness loved to fling the brass into the next county but the G20 is no worse than any other pistol about throwing brass. There was a fix on the Witness where some owners were shorting the ejector but I never modified mine.


If you are aware of the 10mm's limitations especially as to ammo availability and that you can't just bop on down to Wally-World to buy a box of ammo but want the ultimate pistol caliber then you won't be disappointed.
 
I just spent an hour or so shooting full .44 mags in a 6.5" Ruger Anniversary Blackhawk, and a few not-quite-full-house loads from a 2 3/4" S&W 500 snubnose. I also have a Glock 20SF, and comparably, the Glock is a pussycat. The Glock 20 handles very well, and no one should get anxiety over shooting it. I think most every female pistol shooter I have ever met could handle the Glock 20.
 
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