What's your favorite military surplus rifle?

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I'm sure this subject has been discussed before on THR, but it is a subject that many of us enjoy. Below is a snapshot of my budding mil-surp collection:

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Out of the six rifles that I have pictured (my Japanese T99 is at Miltech being refurbished), the two rifles tied for first are the M1 Garand and the No. 4 Lee-Enfield Mk.2. Fast shooting, accurate, easy to reload, and reliable, both rifles are a joy to shoot. The M1 averages 4" groups at 100 yards (I bought it from the CMP and the stock is a little loose) and the No. 4 around 1 1/2" at 100 yards. Owning them and shooting them has taught me why both rifles are considered to be the best infantry rifles of WW2.:D

The German K98 is in second place. Although I have not fired the rifle (I haven't had the time lately, college homework has been overwhelming), it is in excellent shape. I might change my opinion once I fire it.:cool:

A close third is the French MAS 36. In my experience, the MAS is lightweight, easy to carry and load, and accurate enough to do the job (2" groups at 100 yards). It is an arsenal rebuild from the early 1960's, and the rifle saw no use until I purchased it (I can't buy a rifle and not shoot it). The only complaint about the design I have is the lack of a safety.;)

In fourth place is the M1 Carbine. I have shot this rifle a few times, and the accuracy is decent for a little carbine (3 1/2" at 100 yards). It wouldn't have been my first pick for a battle rifle during the war, but it is fun to shoot!!!:)

In last place is the Mosin-Nagant M44. Accuracy is just fair (5" at 100 yards with surplus ball, probably the reason why) and the recoil can be brutal. Still, the Mosin-Nagant served the Russians well. In fact, the Finns used the Mosin-Nagant to arm their troops during WW2, and the design is very rugged and durable. Finnish Mosin-Nagants are extremely accurate. :)

There you have it. I am sure that there are many of you who may disagree with me, and that's okay. In the end, I know that we all agree on a couple of key issues, mainly: collecting rifles is fun, shooting them is even more fun, and these words "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".
 
Kar 98K, no doubt. Between the "solidness" of the Brno action on mine, the accuracy and the low cost of shooting it, the 98k is a winner in my book. If you can see it, you can hit it.
 
Kind of hate to admit it, but my norinco sks's are hard to beat. I am more accurate with them than my Colt AR.
 
Nice Carbine!!!

FMJ Mike, that's a nice carbine!! When was it made and who is the manufacturer? :)

How well does yours group at 100 yards? Have any suggestions for ammunition? I have been shooting with S&B 110 grain FMJs. :)
 
American......That is a CMP Austrian return Winchester M1 Carbine. It is a 5.7 million serial number. Just bought it a few weeks ago and haven't shot it yet. I use soft points for Home Defense purposes and Georgia Arms FMJ for plinking. Well...........I did before ammo prices went so HIGH!!!!! Thanks...........:D
 
I had the honor of having lunch with 2 WWII American Vets yesterday. One landed on Normandy on D Day and the other was in Bastogne. Both were American GI's. The one that landed on Normandy told me he hated his M1 due to problems with the gas system. Eventually he aquired a carbine which he loved. I mentioned that I had a Lee Enfield and he told me they were the best battle rifles of the war. Having shot Mausers, Enfields, carbines I cannot argue with him. I guess what the Lee Enfield lacks in power compared to the Mauser & the M1, it makes up for speed, accurate fire and relaibility. I have never fired an M1 and I'm sure they were fine rifles, but I'm sticking with my No.5 Enfield.

The battle continues.
 
My Finn M39 is by far my favorite milsurp out of all the ones I own. I REALLY want a Garand, but the bank account and the wife don't agree right now. I have a feeling once I get one the Finn will be relegated to #2. My Lee-Enfield is nice too but not as accurate. I love the way it handles, though. It just feels right, the way a rifle should.

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So far, my Swedish Mauser both for my wife and myself. However, I am going to the range tomorrow to try out my K31 for the first time, and in about a couple of weeks I'm back to try out my M39 that is in the pipeline. But I have to admit, there are a lot of things about Mosin-Nagants I like. Not the most accurate shooters in the safe, but like an AK, I can't imagine how you'd break one. And with the top round floating during cycling, a very smooth bolt on both of the ones I have. But I clean out the chamber and don't shoot surplus ammo.
 
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