It’s pistol matches, rifle matches, etc. it’s 3 days a week now and weekends mostly tied up with them. open range days are only 2-3x yr. otherwise I would.I’d consider becoming one of those people
It’s pistol matches, rifle matches, etc. it’s 3 days a week now and weekends mostly tied up with them. open range days are only 2-3x yr. otherwise I would.I’d consider becoming one of those people
No BLM land around here. They have all these public pistol, ar, Benchrest, etc shoots to bring money in. Bank account with savings is close to $100kYes +1.
Looks like the club is well on its way to becoming a semi-public range using "slave members" as workers.
I would cancel my club "work slavery" membership and become the "public" and shoot on public days which I am guessing will only increase over time.
How far is the closest BLM land where you can shoot?
If not too far, I would make target stands with a group of people and have distance/range marked off for 25/50/100/300 yard shooting. (That's what I do with locals in my area and we have dedicated 25/50/75/100 yard areas for pistol/rimfire/carbine shooting and 100/300/600 areas for rifle ... And local SD deputies and Forest Rangers are very supportive)
It’s funny because each year we get 3-6 names for people running and because it’s the same 40 guys who show to the meetings they vote the same people in. IMO the entire membership should have say so not 25 guys who say yes. Most the committees are 3-5yr too before you can be voted out. I tried getting on and was voted no.The only way things will change is for the current leaders to be voted out of office. You and the others who are dissatisfied with the way the club is being run should get your names on the nomination list come election time and solicit votes from the membership. A petition means nothing to the current leadership as they are running things the way they want.
That’s the current plan.Sounds like it could be better. But how much is it going to cost you to drive 1.5 hours each way to a more crowded range and have less time to shoot.
I believe I'd stay and continue to try to make it better.
Dang.It’s pistol matches, rifle matches, etc. it’s 3 days a week now and weekends mostly tied up with them. open range days are only 2-3x yr. otherwise I would.
They do it each year and read the treasure report each month. One guy asked 2-3yrs ago where all the money goes too and several people got pretty mad at him. I say someone is fudging the books because it doesn’t cost $300 month to clean porta potty’s or $150 month for electric when the clubSounds like time to use the by-laws to require an outside audit of all club financials.
I check the landowner records and it’s listed as an LLC with the club name. The clubs been there since the 50s or earlier.Who actually owns the range? Is it public land being managed by this board?
Our yacht club was in the red losing money every year for years. About 400 members and multi million annual budget We finally kicked out the entire board and officers last year and went from in the red to $250K in the black in one year. For years the membership talked about an outside audit but didn't follow through so we cleaned house. We had the foxes running the hen house.They do it each year and read the treasure report each month. One guy asked 2-3yrs ago where all the money goes too and several people got pretty mad at him. I say someone is fudging the books because it doesn’t cost $300 month to clean porta potty’s or $150 month for electric when the club
House should barely be used. It’s the guys using it as their coffee shop for 3-4hrs a day. Lights, AC, etc. $400 in stamps to send mailed news letters. I’ve yet to get a mailed letter.
Gross.
When I want to shoot, I drive 15 min outside of town into the desert all by myself, no rules, no BS, just me, my guns, and nature.
The December meeting only about 1/3 of the membership shows up and if say 50 guys show and say yes to someone being on the board thats the end of it.Are your committee members elected by the general membership? Do you have meetings where the general membership votes on proposals ect? I belong to a private non profit boat club which is often run by the same board members for years because no one else wants or has the time or inclination to do it. We require 10 work hours/annually or fine of $300 but work hours are available and we have a board member designated who can be contacted for work party info. The membership has a right to present gripes and proposals at monthly general meetings. Don't know if your club works the same way. I'd try to get like minded members together to present your gripes to the committee at your club or vote them out if it's an option. A three hour round trip for a range day wouldn't be my choice.
This is why I never join clubs.....never have and never will. I’m an old man, and have always been able to find a place to shoot and/or hunt. I just don’t like people enough to mingle. Necessary evil when I had to work, but I grinned and bore it. Now, I’m able to look out my back window at woods, water, and the occasional critter....and don’t have to negotiate with them.I have complained on here before about my club but this one takes a new low. Just trying to get ideas on how to possibly fix this. I have spoke to quite a few guys and everyone is either afraid to speak up or doesnt think it will work but they all have similar concerns and gripes. I have been a member for awhile and enjoy most of the people and the convienience of being 5 miles away when I want to shoot. Over the years we have had a lot of changes with some being for the good and some for the bad, but lately its bad. Next closeset club is 1.5hrs away and always busy so I'd like some tips on how to possibly work on some issues.
150-175 members. Yearly dues and work hours payment comes to $305 plus your NRA card-year plus now your forced to pay $25 2x year for club dinner tickets even if you dont want to come. Pre Covid and a previous club president it was $245-year. They recently upped the work hours because "no one was doing them and this was an attempt to get people to perform work hours". If you complete 12 work hours a year it brings your dues down to $65-yr. Does not matter if you complete 20hrs the first half your still required to do 6hr each half of the year. IMO $305 is pricey for a club with a 100yard range that pistol, 25, 50 and 75yard all must use together.
Work hours: We have a mowing crew once a week with mornings and evenings alternating to mow and weed eat about 12 acres. They have 2 mowers and if you dont get there an hour before mowing starts your given a hand me down push mower and told push mow 10 acres. Sometimes you have 6-7 guys show up and end up getting sent home with 30min of work hours given because there is nothing for them to do or because someone on a commitee mowed the morning before.
One year myself and a few current and former members made a large list or things that needed completed and brought it up at a meeting to try and get people work hours because at that time $245 was pricey for some. We shared it at the monthly meeting that only 40-50 members show up to and was told they would look into it. Most of these commitee members have been on the committee for 20-30yrs. Next thing we know is all the work was done without being anounced and the work was completed by commitee members or retirees at 10am on a Tuesday. Commitee members arent required to do work hours and some have in excess of 40-100 work hours a year. But yet they upped work hour dues with a vote from 40-50 people of the clubs 150-175 members. We suggested bringing up work that needed done at the monthly meeting and they did at this last meeting and decided that 2 days later, on a Tuesday at 10am they were going to do a ton of work. One member brought up not being notified when a work party was scheduled and was told come to the monthly meetings to find out. Due to 3 small kids and working full time he could not attend the meetings and ended up losing his membership because he could not afford dues + work hours but was fully willing to complete work on weekends. They said no weekend work because thats when the range is most active and no commitee members want to work on weekends.
Membership say so: It is in my opinion and the opinion of guys I spoke with that voting should be approved by the majority and not allowing 2 members who dont approve to axe the entire thing. If we have 175 members than each member should have a say so and not just the 40-50 who show to the meetings to decide for the entire membership. Should members who show to the meeting have the only say so or should they send a letter, email, etc to everyone asking their opinion?
Range availability: They are now allowing the public to pay to use the range on specific days and while those days were say once a month its now turned into 2-3 days a week. Should members be allowed to rent the range and club multiple times a year for their own personal parties, gain, etc and shut other members out from using the range?
So far I have spoke to about 10-15 guys who i have known for awhile through the club and they all have similar concerns but not sure how to voice them. Personally, I am on the verge of just telling them to stick the membership and just find another hobby. A good friend of mine who's also a member said maybe we should write a letter to the club and post a petition asking that all members have a say so via email if you cannot attend a meeting and remove the rule where one person can deny a vote for the majority. We have tried approaching the president and other board members and everyone says thats the way this club has been in my 30yrs of being here. Well its time for some change. Are we being unreasonable about these issues? Just hang a petition up at the range sign in and hope for the best? Tell everyone how it is at a meeting? How would you guys improve on this?
I have complained on here before about my club but this one takes a new low. Just trying to get ideas on how to possibly fix this. I have spoke to quite a few guys and everyone is either afraid to speak up or doesnt think it will work but they all have similar concerns and gripes.