Where are all the Revolvers and Guns???

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I have no doubt that it will catch up. I don't see that as even factoring into the equation. Supply and Demand are pretty stable in relationship in terms of capitalism. The issue is for those wanting to purchase right now. There is a sizeable group of people buying up the limited stock. There are challenges to manufacturing, shipping, and distribution. I'm sure guns and ammo will come back. It came roaring back after the banic a decade ago. That doesn't do much for folks who are in the market now.

I guess my point is that Gun Broker can have 40,000 guns available, but I only buy my guns in person despite it being thought that people of my generation do all of their shopping online;)
I want to see the gun, handle it, make sure it fits my hand, and sometimes I just want to buy something new for the collection and don't really KNOW what I want until I get there and start looking. Im not a price shopper. What little I can save buying online is far outweighed by the hassle of shipping and transfers and all that. I like walking into my LGS, talking to the people I have been doing business with for years, and shooting the breeze before I walk out with something I REALLY don't need but want.
 
Went to my LGS for Saturday supplies Today and while waiting to get my 1lb of BP, overheard another conversation.
Little old lady talking to the clerk, “My son says I need a revolver for my house with everything that’s going on and it has to be small”.
That’s why everything is flying off the shelves.
 
Dave T said:
Until the time it doesn't. There are no guarantees.

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Of course not but gun and ammunition manufacturing is a $16BILLION industry..not gonna go away even if the sky does fall..or if it does, it'll be a $32BILLION industry..when we go toe to toe with Russia:feet:
The Guns and Ammunition Manufacturing industry has experienced growth and volatility over the five years to 2020. Industry operators design and manufacture small arms, bombs, ammunition, artillery and related parts. Companies in this industry range from small arms manufacturers to large multibillion-dollar defense contractors, with many companies serving both the civilian and military markets. Over the five years to 2020, industry revenue is expected to increase at an annualized rate of 3.3% to $16.0 billion, including a 3.8% surge in 2020
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Pat Riot said:
I sent a revolver into S&W for repair. Usually within a week after receiving a gun I get a call or email that they are working on it. I haven’t received any word on my gun. It’s been there 4 or 5 weeks now. I did speak with a lady in Customer Service and she said they were short staffed. According to an article I read S&W was up and operating but it doesn’t appear that way.

I have been wanting to buy an S&W 327 TRR8 but there are none to be found. There are none at distributors, online sales or local gun stores. I guess I will just have to wait.
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Some of S&W's manufacturing capabilities have been dedicated to making PPE: https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...esson-producing-ppe-during-covid-19-outbreak/
 
There are several different things going on that make it look like there is a shortage of guns. In some areas there is.

First, there is no shortage of guns on the internet. Just go look, as I did earlier in this thread. New and used guns can be had.

Second there has been two panic buying sprees within the last 6 months. The first in the early months of the pandemic and the second in response to the global demonstrations against police brutality and a few burnings of stores, looting, etc. So there have been runs on guns, supplies and accessories. This can deplete local supplies fast as we've seen in the past.

Third, the shutdown imposed by the federal, state and local governments greatly disrupted all aspects of the economy. This effected things on all levels from who (what companies) was still open to produce firearms and supplies to what was in local stores and when it was delivered. Items being available on-line doesn't mean they are available locally as production and the supply chain was massively disrupted. If you can't pay the rent you can't buy guns. If you are, once a week, in a two mile line of cars hoping to get food you won't be buying a lot of non-essential things.

Fourth, around the country state and local regulations on who was open and who shut varied greatly. Point here being that it's hard to judge the availability of guns on the local level without knowing what degree the stores and distributors were open or shut across the country. Seems it's a mixed picture. None of us alone can know the broad picture in another state or a county 1,000 miles away.

The shut down in various ways hurt alot of stores around the country. As small businesses they need the customers and supplies. They need used and new guns coming in. Many make more profit on the sale of used consignment guns than on the sale of new. That income enables them to keep stocked. If guns aren't delivered in a timely way that effects profits as well.
 
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I know a few LGS owner's and one manager from a "Big Box" store and they all said panic buying. Anything that shoots is going out the door. Americans can be a weird bunch when you think about it. The conversations overheard in the lines to buy guns often begin "i don't really believe in guns. but.... " or "The Wife say's I can't spend over $200.00." or "Getting myself a shotgun, they're the safest." The house is on fire, run to the store and buy a fire extinguisher.
 
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Pat Riot said:
I sent a revolver into S&W for repair. Usually within a week after receiving a gun I get a call or email that they are working on it. I haven’t received any word on my gun. It’s been there 4 or 5 weeks now. I did speak with a lady in Customer Service and she said they were short staffed. According to an article I read S&W was up and operating but it doesn’t appear that way.

I have been wanting to buy an S&W 327 TRR8 but there are none to be found. There are none at distributors, online sales or local gun stores. I guess I will just have to wait.
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I just bought a TRR8 online at Able Ammo today. It’s the only one I could find. There is a used one at a Cabelas store that will ship too.


Well......I thought I did. Was in stock and took my money, but received an email today that they are out of stock and I am to be refunded.
 
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I was in a LGS yesterday, simply to pick up a box or two of .32 S&W WADCUTTER for plinking. The store was nearly bare, except for a few well used long guns and a few cheap versions of mediocre tupperware pistols. We joked a little that we once thought that Oh-Bummer was the world's greatest gun and ammo salesman. LOL

These shoppers are clueless about gun prices anyway, and demand is extremely high until lately when the stores started going bare anyway.

IF people don't have an urgent need right now for personal protection (when they don't even know how to safely handle firearms), they are going to pay a lot of money for the few guns left that aren't worth owning anyway. Just wait until after the election . . . and vote for people who respect our wonderful country's laws and rights, and good law enforcement.

An elderly husband and wife came in just as I was leaving. They just needed some .38 ammo to go shooting. The store was out of all ..38 ammo, plus 9mm and .45 ACP too (and most other stuff). They looked so disappointed and surprised. I headed out and stopped by my trunk and opened it. I was going shooting too, with lots of various ammo for fun. I reached in and got quite a handful of new .38 special ammo from a full box and went in and gave it to them.

With eyes getting big, she looked SO GRATEFUL. "How much do we owe you?" I just smiled kindly and said, "Not a thing, just come back later when my friend behind the counter has ammo and give him a hard time like I like to when I come in!" We all laughed . . .

Later I felt remorse that I didn't give 'em that whole box of .38 Spl. Target ammo. I had plenty for my afternoon without it anyway. I just hope they end up voting for people who will continue to support honest people from being able to keep themselves safe . . . and need a lot more ammo than I gave them to improve their skills to feel safe when they got home!
 
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I can't find ammo around here and even online is tricky. The only decent prices I've found on handguns have been on a couple of 22's.

Luckily I've learned to keep plenty of ammo squirreled away.
 
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Tallball said:
I can't find ammo around here and even online is tricky. The only decent prices I've found on handguns have been on a couple of 22's.

Luckily I've learned to keep plenty of ammo squirreled away.
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I found 9mm, 38Special and 223 pretty easily..BassPro, AmmoSupplyWarehouse and Freedom Munitions..just gotta pay about $.60 per for any of it.

GunBroker..gonna be expensive tho, probably. Local ArmsList..ColoradoGunTrader here locally.
 
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I would wager S&W and Ruger would allocate labor to semi auto polymer offerings to meet demand. They are more popular, easier to make, and likely much more profitable.
 
I was in a gun shop yesterday that would dispell all myths of guns being difficult to find. I was led to it by someone on another forum who told me of a gun there I have been searching for to add to the collection. When I walked into the place, I was completely awestruck. Both long walls of the shop (about 75-80 feet long) were lined with two rows, one above the other, of long guns, one wall was nothing but side-by-side shotguns. Must have been 500 of them, many were old Parkers and LC Smiths. There were racks on the floor with more shotguns and rifles, about even with new and used. Probably 20-25 long display cases full of revolvers and semiauto's. A S&W collector could go nuts in the place, there were revolvers from the early 1900's all the way up to today. I saw no less than four Model 29's (I took one of them home). All told, if I had to guess, there were at leas 2000 guns in that store, most likely more. I won't give the name, but it's in east-central NC near Fayetteville. The prices I saw were entirely reasonable; many were much less than I'd have thought. For instance, there was a pristine blued Model 25-2 in .45 Colt that had a 8-3/8" barrel, for just under $750. Had I not found the one i was looking for, I'd certainly have taken that one home with me. I might even go back in a couple of weeks and see if it's still there.
 
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