Where are reloading components made?

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"...Would it not be better to support the American Worker?..." He is. Everything you buy is sold by an American. Everything you buy got to where you bought in a truck driven by an American.
On the other hand, no IC in the computer you're posting through was made in the U.S. Neither is any flat screen TV or monitor.
 
I'll add some

Accurate AA-2 USA
Alliant Red Dot USA
IMR 4227 Canada
IMR 7625 Canada
IMR 700-X Canada
IMR 800-X Canada
IMR Trail Boss Australia

Berry's Case Boxes USA
Frankford Brass Polish ?
Frankford Case Boxes ?
Frankford Case Lube USA
Frankford Loading Tray ?
Goex Black Powder USA
Hornady Loading Tray USA
Lee Alox ?
Lyman TufNut USA
MTM Case Guard USA
MTM Loading Tray USA
Picreator Renaissance Wax England
Rooster Labs Rooster Jacket USA
Sharpie Marker ?
 
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Clays powder can be replaced with clay dot (if i remember right it is made in the US of A god bless)
 
rcbs

Thank you, oneounceload. From reading some of the threads I was almost convinced that I have some very unusual presses. Mine are cast iron and steel also.:D:D
 
twofifty,

You're right about the French bashing, it should stop! Why, after WW II, the French had thousands of new rifles to be had and put into the worldwide economy....... they were never fired!
 
It's about choices. Those are personal decisions. We are lucky to have them but we've also worked and fought for them.
I'm fortunate to have an exceptional gunshop just up the road. I started to do business with this guy many years ago when the "shop" was the basement of his first home after work at his day job. There was little or no stock but he would order anything for you and his prices were right. Now there's a big building that he owns, and I guess people would say he's made a fortune. He did that with hard and long work. He and his staff will still order you anything they don't have on hand, and his prices are still right enough that folks drive many tens of miles, past other gunshops, do do business there.
I support that shop because it's in my interest to do so. He supports me because it's in his interest to do so. Yes, it is full of both US made and imported products and I buy them all. Choices.
I don't buy everything there. I do shop price to a point, and support him when I can. When I can't I don't.
I buy MBC cast bullets online because he doesn't sell them. I buy Berry's elsewhere too, where they are cheaper from large suppliers.
I have trouble personally with the arms-folded "buy American" attitude. It makes no sense economically and limits, yes, choices. I do like to buy FROM Americans, but only if they have what I want at a satisfactory price whatever it is.
Called competition. Without it that store I described would not exist. Can you imagine what your next gun, pound of powder, or thousand bullets would cost without it?
No labor or vendor or manufacturer has my custom by entitlement. They get it by providing product at the quality and price I want in competition with all comers. That's the American way.
 
Buying American made products is a choice,I choose to buy as many American made products that I can. The only thing I regret is that I did not look at all of the powder jugs before I bought them, as this is the only non American made products that I have purchased. I was under the assumption that all of the powder was American made after I looked at quite a few jugs, also some of the powders originally purchased were made in the USA and after purchasing for quite a few years, looked at the jugs and found out they were no longer produced in the USA. I know not every one has lost there jobs,if you look at the past to present you will notice a big shift in outsourcing, especially in the manufacturing sector. I THINK IT IS OUR DUTY TO SUPPORT OUR FELLOW AMERICANS IN THAT SECTOR BEFORE WE DO NOT HAVE THIS AS A CHOICE. the younger generation will probably mock this statement and think that it may never happen. I assure you it will eventually happen if we do not make a stand at some point. Try and find an American made television. :banghead:
 
well, as sunray says I bought from an American firm, Natchez. they made $$ and so did the shpg co, UPS - the driver on my route is a paper shooter of AR pattern heavy bbl. what he gets out of that is beyond me. I do little 'bench shooting' but have participated in 'informal' match shooting off a rest gambling for $$.
I've loaded more Rem slugs than anything else beside Mastercast I think. some I cast myself.
I'll be honest and say that the biggest part of the 7.62X39 ammo I shoot is foreign made (lots of Mil-Surp too) but the handloads for my Mini I put together have USA components. Hornady's X39 slug is hard to beat IME. and I've shot several different makers slugs. And I think it's USA made powder I use mostly. at least pistol powder is.
 
This thread seems somewhat ironic in its Pro-America fervor when you look at most others where folks are screaming about how cheap they got XXX guns or components - most of which were Russian or Chinese made.

As for the Chinese aluminum supposedly in RCBS (I haven't seen any proof), just about every steel mill in the US is India-owned, so who do you support - the India billionaire, or the US workers he put to work after their company went belly-up
 
oneounceload:

Yes, I'm guilty of that, and sympathise with your views.
But without the much lower prices of Russian ammo, frankly I never would have bought my Mini 14, 30, or the Norinco SKS in Feb.-April '08, and won't ever buy a Russian SKS etc in the future if over-priced US ammo from Lonoke AR etc is the only option.
Are many guys emptying ten or thirty-rd. mags with Hornady, Fiocchi etc?

Without surplus x54R or 8mm ammo, I never would have bought the two MN rifles from Classic Arms, or my Yugo Mauser.
For me, ammo (and/or reloading) prices and the rifle's cost are the only objective factors to determine whether I buy a certain caliber rifle.

There must be some fairly solid net gains in jobs when such ammo and rifles go through US dealers (Academy is just one). There are many thousands of similar rifles waiting to be sold by US shops and distributors.
Shipping the 'ORM-D', guns and accessories helps support jobs and profits at UPS, Fedex.
 
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Sounds like people are trying to justify what they are doing to make themselves feel less guilty.:evil:
 
oneounceload said:
This thread seems somewhat ironic in its Pro-America fervor when you look at most others where folks are screaming about how cheap they got XXX guns or components - most of which were Russian or Chinese made.
minnesota said:
Sounds like people are trying to justify what they are doing to make themselves feel less guilty.
I will admit that when Winchester primers that I have always used were impossible to find during the primer shortage, I bought Magtech/PMC/Wolf primers to preserve what Winchester stock I had left. While Winchester primers have worked very well over the years, producing consistent shot groups with no failure to ignite, I was pleasantly surprised to find that these other primers also worked well for me.



The original intent of this thread was not about simply buying American made components, but whether you were willing to consider switching to American made counterparts from your current reloading recipes. Here's the original post:
bds said:
I recently had a discussion with other reloaders whether the origin of their reloading components mattered.

Some stated they try to buy USA made whenever possible and others said they reload for absolute accuracy that is brand specific (VihtaVuori, RL15, etc.) and would not change even though they were not USA made.

I am a curious person and open to product combinations that may produce even more accurate loads than what I have been using.

How about you? Would you consider changing components to USA made equivalent?

I had follow up discussions with other reloaders and most said they would consider using American made equivalent components if the difference in accuracy/performance of their reloads wasn't that much, like for pistol calibers. However, for rifle loads, some said they were unwilling to redo the workup of their tried-and-true loads they have developed over many years.

For me, when I did the inventory of my reloading components, most of my favored powders were already American made (i.e. W231/HP38 for pistol and H335 for .223) but some were not (i.e. N320 for pistol and Varget/RL15 for .308) that really did not have a good American made equivalent.

As to pistol primers, I have no problem paying a few dollars more per 1000 for Winchester over other brands, domestic or not, as they have ignited very consistently for me. As to rifle, same goes for CCI BR2 primers and none issue for my plinking .223 rounds.

If I end up not being able to find viable American made equivalents for N320/H4895/Varget/RL15, at least I will feel more comfortable knowing I am supporting US friendly countries like Australia.

As to bulk pistol/rifle bullets, I have been very happy with the various jacketed/plated/lead products from USA manufacturers - I won't change a thing.

Now, my next curious question is, "Why can't American companies produce products like H4895/Varget/RL15?"
 
Now, my next curious question is, "Why can't American companies produce products like H4895/Varget/RL15?"

Either they already have (IMR 4895 was originally US), they currently feel they have a market segment covered enough, or they feel there isn't enough demand in a particular segment to warrant production costs.

(Perhaps you should also take this to the shotgun section where folks are always bragging about Norinco, Saiga, Wolf, etc. - those folks flat out don't care as long as what they are are buying is the cheapest thing out there, quality doesn't count, US-made doesn't count, nothing matters to them except initial purchase price. It's a hard sell in that climate
 
Perhaps you should also take this to the shotgun section where folks are always bragging about Norinco, Saiga, Wolf, etc. - those folks flat out don't care as long as what they are are buying is the cheapest thing out there, quality doesn't count, US-made doesn't count, nothing matters to them except initial purchase price. It's a hard sell in that climate
For me, consistent accuracy is the ultimate objective for reloading. If lower cost is pursued at the expense of accuracy, that's not good.

As to shotgun loads, I guess they don't measure groups like pistol/rifle holes so precise accuracy may not matter as much.

For lower cost pistol loading, I use Promo with very acceptable accuracy and it happens to be made in USA. So not all economy reloading has to be outsourced to Russia/China. :D
 
I don't think there is a US maker of commercial extruded rifle powders.
Hodgdon gets theirs from Australia, IMR is distributed by Hodgdon but made in Canada, Alliant imports from Sweden and Switzerland.

Solo 1000 has become popular as a substitute for N310 and N320 but it is also imported. I have read that it comes from Spain.
 
I don't think there is a US maker of commercial extruded rifle powders.
All of my Hodgdon/Alliant/Winchester containers are clearly marked with "Made in XXX". The H335 bottle is marked, "Made in USA".
 
I think primers and powder are all made in places where the people aren't smoking cigars, cigarettes and pipes while sitting at the machine doing their job! :eek:

LOL
Sorry, I had to add that!
 
I recently had a discussion with other reloaders whether the origin of their reloading components mattered.
How about you? Would you consider changing components to USA made equivalent?

To me it's All about quailty then price.
So I wouldn't consider changing.
 
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