Where can I find great wheelgun techniques and information on the internet?

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I’m new to revolvers (SD) and am soaking up everything wheelgun I can. I’ve found blogs like revolverguy and hipowersandhandguns.com etc. digging into Clint smith at thunder ranch ( id love to get his DVD’s). Where’s your source for tactical information? I got a feeling that I’m gonna be a lifelong wheelgunner lol. I dunno what it is about me. I got to be a little different. Most folks ride Harley Davidson, I ride a Moto guzzi cruiser (98 cali EV) that kinda thing. Everyone thinks they need to leave the house with 40 rounds on em and a big shootouts around the corner lol. I think I’ll be armed to the teeth with my new king cobra and 24 rounds of lswchp+p 38 special!!
 
I wouldn’t feel naked carry a wheel gun. I carried an SP101 for a good while. I worked in a bad neighborhood and always had cash. I liked the fact that I could just have it in my jacket pocket and if the need arose, I could just shoot right through the jacket.

As a practical matter, if you feel the need to have three speed loaders on you, you might be better served with an auto. 15+ in the pistol and another 15+ In the ONE spare mag.

I was involved in an altercation where, in hindsight, if I had a revolver, I would not have had time to reload. When it was said and done, I had two rounds left in my beretta 92. Of course, that sort of thing is way out of the ordinary. Most altercations are 3 or 4 rounds from what I’ve read.
 
shoebox1.1 said:
I’ve seen his handy work good stuff. More instructor kinda material. MAS ayoob kinda info
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I would imagine that the tactics would be the same for a revolver as they are for a pistol. Judicious use of cover and if it’s that bad, plan your reloads. What sucks about a revolver is that you can’t top off without dropping the live rounds in the cylinder. You pop off three, decide you can top off, now you’re at 24 minus the three you shot and the three laying on the ground. You could empty the cylinder into your hand, but you can’t reload with a handful of a mix of live and empty brass.

with an auto, pop one mag out and you can still reload while holding that mag and you haven’t lost anything. Or just swap on mag for the other into the mag pouch.

eh, pistols and revolvers. The each have their advantages I suppose.
 
The shot that's most likely to save your life is that first hit, and that doesn't change whether you're carrying a revolver or a semi-auto.

The first hit may very well not be enough. You may be dealing with a very hyped-up tough opponent or multiple opponents, but unless there's some kind of unusual extenuating circumstance you're probably not going to be standing there gawking, trying to figure out what your first shot accomplished, but that very fast first hit from something very hard is the most important skill to learn.

Consecutive hits are more likely to do you good if you haven't wasted your first shots.

The amount of ammunition I'm carrying is the only thing that stands between me and utter helplessness. When I give up a round of that ammunition, I want to keep a kind of running tab in my mind of what I got for it, which doesn't necessarily mean that I'm not pouring them out as fast as I can pull the trigger.
 
TonyAngel said:
What sucks about a revolver is that you can’t top off without dropping the live rounds in the cylinder. You pop off three, decide you can top off, now you’re at 24 minus the three you shot and the three laying on the ground. You could empty the cylinder into your hand, but you can’t reload with a handful of a mix of live and empty brass.
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What you describe is a problem with speedloaders... not revolvers themselves. There is actually a very good way to top off your cylinder: speed trips. I carry these, not speedloaders. The idea is that after a few shots whenever there’s a lull, you pop open the cylinder and bump the ejector with the muzzle pointed DOWN not up; the I fired brass will resettle into the chambers leaving the spent brass high and easy to brush out. Use the speed strip to fill the empty chambers two at a time until your full again.

There’s a technical term for this procedure which escapes me right now... someone will chime in with it. I’ve seen some use this method extremely well to the point that they are continually topping off almost as fast as they fired and kept their ammo rotating so that they NEVER ran dry

OP, I remember the lucky gunner had a couple good articles on defensive revolver use.
 
I carry a 6 shot wheel gun and most of the time without a reload. I am located in a smaller city and generally dislike and stay out of larger cities . It is very unlikely I will ever have to use my carry firearm, and even more unlikely I would have to defend against multiple targets. I feel safe with 6 and have always practiced head shots with accuracy being a key element. I am not advocating that anyone else do it this way, but I am comfortable that I can take care of myself.
 
bluejeans, very good point. I often wondered what the use of a speed strip could be. Goes to show, you're never too old to learn. Hitting the ejector with muzzle down to take advantage of the fired cartridges shorter length never occurred to me. I would guess that is the sort of tactical info that shoe box is looking for.
 
I carry a compact 5-shot 357 Mag DA revolver & usually no spare ammo. I never carried anything for many years so I feel very secure even with just 5-shots. I also feel that with a 357 Mag head shots are not necessary & a well placed shot to the torso is enough to get most anyone out of the fight. Of course if I were a soldier, a police officer or expected to be walking into a bad situation I would definitely want to include speed loaders & spare ammo or better yet a high cap semi auto & spare mags.
 
mnrivrat said:
It is very unlikely I will ever have to use my carry firearm, and even more unlikely I would have to defend against multiple targets.
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Do you have a basis for believing that criminals in smaller cities are less likely to work in pairs than those in larger ones?

mnrivrat said:
I feel safe with 6 and have always practiced head shots with accuracy being a key element.
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Do you really believe that you would be able to consistently score head shots against attackers moving at, say, five meters per second?

Are you knowledgeable about where in the head a hot would be likely to effect an immediate stop? Hint: It is a very small target.

Charlie Martinez said:
I never carried anything for many years so I feel very secure even with just 5-shots.
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How would that support the validity of how you "feel"?

I realize that my questions in this post mat appear rather critical, but until we have availed ourselves of good, realistic defensive training, and/or obtained the advice of experts in the field, we need understand that our assumptions may not be realistic.
 
Kleanbor , your questions are valid ,and summed up in "How would that support the validity of how you "feel"? .All I have to do is look at the violent crime rates in the smaller cities per capita compared to larger cites. In my 71 years living in two small cites for example I have known of two murders. One with a rifle and one with a hammer. They were both crimes of passion so to speak.

My answer to your questions was mostly given in my post with "I am not advocating that anyone else do it this way, but I am comfortable that I can take care of myself." Can I face a situation where I could loose with what I carry ? Certainly possible, but highly unlikely. Same could be said for many who do it their way. Life style also works in my favor.

One thing I forgot to mention is that on the rare occasion I do travel to a larger city I do things a bit different. And a PS: I am confident I can put my 6 shots on target well enough that having more shots would not give me a large advantage. Also at 71 and in significant chronic pain and poor health I really am not afraid of loosing. (I know - poor attitude , but again my choice)
 
mnrivrat said:
"How would that support the validity of how you "feel"? .All I have to do is look at the violent crime rates in the smaller cities per capita compared to larger cites.
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That would have a bearing on the likelihood that you might be attacked, but it would have no bearing on what you would need to defend yourself should an attack occur.
 
Like I said I spent many years going about my business with nothing but my wits, my fists & my legs to defend myself with. The day that I started packing a folder in my pocket I felt very secure. When I started packing a 5-shot revolver I felt extremely secure & I still feel the same way today . I'm not recommending to anyone to do the same. Other folks may need to carry something more powerful or with higher firepower to feel secure but I don't feel that way at all. What validation do you need?
 
The factor I see that applies in what I carry is the chance of encountering multi attackers is significantly higher in large cities VS small towns. (thinking gangs for example) My opinion is that where I live and drive that road rage is by far my most likely encounter that may lead to violence. That is more or less something that takes my cooperation to participate in. Again a need for more than 6 to protect myself if I can not avoid that type encounter without driving away seems very unlikely to me. As I mentioned, on the very seldom occasion I travel to a larger city I change my carry to reflect on what I see as a more dangerous place. At home I also have readily available more firepower .
Also worth repeating is that I do not advocate my thinking, or my method of carry to be the correct way for anyone else. If someone else only feels safe by the carry of a belt fed RPG (fictitious - I know) then I have no issue with what they choose to carry.
 
Tactics should be roughly the same as using something like a single stack 45. You have a compact handgun with a limited number of shots. Judicious use of cover, and a strong muscle memory for quickly aimed shots and gun manipulation. Realistically from what I have seen though, for a civilian shoot cover is less of a consideration than making a quick shot. Unless somebody has a reason to go after you, they aren’t going to keep coming after they get shot at, especially if they get ventilated with the first volley of 2 or 3 shots. If your really wanting to get tactical and have fun you could look into the pistol games where revolvers are used.
 
I don’t know about uspsa type games, but idpa, if there is such a thing for revolvers, might be useful.
 
The local matches we were going to turned into iPsc type “ who can spend the most on their race gun” kinda thing. It’s redicious. That’s fine for them ( and those guys are awesome shooters) but I think imho idpa outta be mandatory for a CCw class. Shooting from concealment and cover. We have other clubs that do strictly idpa and I want to go. Closer to home anyway. I just ordered the Clint smith defensive revolver DVD’s. Thanks for all the inputs
P.s. here’s my carry setup plus what’s in the KC
 

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mnrivrat said:
y opinion is that where I live and drive that road rage is by far my most likely encounter that may lead to violence.
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Do you ever stop to shop, or refuel?

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Again a need for more than 6 to protect myself .... seems very unlikely to me
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Have you considered how many of your six shots might be likely to hit a moving target when you are firing at a rate of perhaps two shots per second? Have you considered how many hits might be expected to be required to have an acceptable chance of hitting the small critical internal body parts to effect a stop? How about his accomplice?

Six may suffice--or not.
 
"The Snubby Revolver" by Ed Lovette
"Protect Yourself with Your Snubnose Revolver" and "The Gun Digest Book of the Revolver" by Grant Cunningham.
 
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