Where did the 7.62x25 Surplus Ammo Go?

Which path should I take?

  • The supply will be back in a few weeks, calm down.

    Votes: 27 41.5%

  • It's all gone, buy it while you can. Enjoy the Tokarev

    Votes: 23 35.4%

  • Dude, it's all gone, don't even buy the gun now.

    Votes: 15 23.1%
  • Total voters
    65
  • Poll closed .
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Once again, XR

Why the HATE, dude you don't have the guns, and have shown you 'you know what' on more than few of these threads, please stop thread jacking....

So has anybody found more ammo, I heard a rumor that Century might have some in mid summer
 
I am not questioning the accuracy or functioning of the cz52 it is a completely different design. We are talking about the yugo M57's Tokarev currently available.

CZ52 is no longer imported or currently on the market, except for used and auction sites.

Also no hate in my post, I am just stating facts and trying to inform and educate the prospective buyer of one of these current tokarev guns, the high road is supposed to be an open forum for discussion.

So far no one who has replied to my posts have even been able to dispute my fiindings on these guns, not one poster has been able to show the groups or accuracy claims of their guns, so the real question is why not !
 
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Funny all my toks run fine, and are as accurate as I can shoot them, the sights take some getting used to, but they definitely aren't some jennings pistol that hit's anywhere but where they are aimed.
 
I don't own a Yugoslav Tok, I prefer the classic Tok as used in world war and revolution for 50 plus years, and used to this day in parts of the world.
My Tok is Romanian and has functioned perfectly.
Accuracy is such that I can easily stay in the black on an NRA 25 yard bullseye.
As I wrote previously, I like to pick out rocks on the 100yd berm and shoot them...they are usually soup can size...I either hit them, or hit close enough to roll them down the berm.
My favorite handgun activity at my club are the plates...we have 10" round steel plates at 40yds...shooting them is fun, and I always try out my pistols there.
The Tok has no problem hitting the plates at all...and it rings them and sets them swinging more than the 9mm.
 
Yeah, I'd say at this point XR, you're the one who's in need of posting proof of your results.

Post a pic of the horrible M57s you've had and also take a photo of this mysterious target your're talking about, or it didn't happen. For all we know, you could be some 14-year-old kid who's only experience with guns is airsoft and video games.
With all these demands for "proof", you've offered absolutely none yourself.

Prove to us you're not some kid in junior high. Prove to us you really have a brother. Prove to us you've actually ever had any real-world experience with a Tokarev. Unless you provide this proof, I'm going to presume you to be a liar.

See how annoying that is? That's the exact thing you're doing here by demanding video proof of what the vast majority of M57s are saying. You are, without question, calling all of us liars and yes, that's quite offensive.

My previous offer still stands. PM me if you're interested.
 
Snow, he won't, For some reason, he is always looking to bash tokarevs and the Tok round,
and derail any thread about them, like this one.
 
I like my Toks, and I also hoarded some ammo when it was a meager 6 cents per round!!!! Can't find it anywhere for cheap these days.

While simplistic, it's a great rugged pistol that fires a HOT round. Not many other handgun rounds and penetrate the US GI kevlar helmet. www.theboxotruth.com.
 
Commercial 7.62x25 is about the same as all the other similar rounds in price to me, and I don't see that changing much. There are a lot of pistols out there chambered in it. I don't shoot the round a lot, but I do like it. Heck, I don't shoot .38, .45, or .40 much for the same reason. I was fortunate enough to get some surplus when it was cheap.

XR bashes most everyting except the xr1200; never knew a TC Contender was a faulty design till he told me. Blaser should quit making all those high end break-barrels, they are inferior by design apparently.

My Toks are as accurate as anything else I've shot, and they shoot to point of aim. I've seen few pistol shots percentage-wise that can shoot to the potential of common pistols (3-4" or less at 25 yards).
 
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Like I said a lot words and now character bashing, show the proof, everything else is just BS.

For those wondering the xr1200 is and overpriced, overweight 883, prefer a gsxr1000, or cbr1000 any day, I simply tell it like it is.
 
Oh, I forgot about this review I made for my first M57:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=529660

XR, I know you weren't there to personally witness these groups, so these results aren't likely going to mean much to you. However, I do believe these groups shown are from slow aimed shots from a sandbag at in indoor range at 25 yards.
If you accompany me the next time I take these to the range, you can see this for yourself. Heck, you might even outshoot me and squeeze out tighter groups from my M57s.
 
Like I said a lot words and now character bashing, show the proof, everything else is just BS.
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Um, you don't have any proof either, and all you are doing is bashing the Tokarev. So far we have had many owners on this and several other Tok threads say nothing but good things about the Yugo M57, and you come rolling in and say that they are all junk, and wonder why no one listens to you. Let's say Rasmussen took a poll of gun owners on their opinions of the Yugo M57. They'd call all of these people who would give a favorable report, say 20 people. They would also call you in the course of their random survey, and you'd give a negative report. Rasmussen would then come out and say that over 95% of gun owners have a favorable opinion of the Yugo Tok. Now based on that stat, what do you think the general consensus is on the Yugo M57?
 
To the contrary, if you do a google search on tokarev pistols , you will find that its a crap shoot on getting a good one. What I found is that there are more bad ones then good ones out there.

Snowdog , yours seem to group ok it would be nice if they all did this well.
 
I believe the main reason the surplus dried up is bc several different platforms developed conversion kits for their guns so that people could take advantage of the cheap ammo. The dry up was inevitable.
 
While I believe that the tok is a rather accurate platform with great accuracy potentiality,

You will read, and learn from experience that the sights are not Modern, NOR easy to use
so, to put it politely XR, it's as accurate as the shooter, and we all know how accurate most of those are. If a guy can't keep it in the 5 ring with a buckmark or MKIII at 7yard, what makes you think all a sudden he'll be popping bulleyes at 25?
 
I believe the main reason the surplus dried up is bc several different platforms developed conversion kits for their guns so that people could take advantage of the cheap ammo. The dry up was inevitable.
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Thank you, a post that's actually on topic. I could totally see how that would cause the supply to quickly dwindle.
 
Ppl. bought these guns mainly for the cheap ammo, so it must be compared to another most common and cheapest to shoot center fire pistol cartridge which is 9mm.
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Not everybody bought them for that purpose. I have a historical interest in the Eastern Bloc handguns -- CZ, Tokarev, Nagant, Makarov -- and I don't shoot corrosive ammo in mine. If I want to shoot cheap, I shoot 9mm or .22LR.

That said, I would like to pick up a couple of spam cans of the cheap stuff just as an emergency stockpile.
 
I don't condone XR's opiniated hijack of this thread, but I have witnessed some of the oddball Tokarev shooting behavior he describes. I have a Norinco TU-90 variant that shoots tight 1" groups at 8 yards that blow out to 8" at 25 yards, high and to the right. My CZ52 doesn't do this with the same ammo. Some weird convergence is the only way I can explain it.

Otherwise, I like the little Tok. It has a high polish blue finish, that I don't care to take a file to for sight adjustments. It's slim, has a crisp trigger, and a lot of the inherent goodness of the Browning design it borrowed. The clever removable trigger group is neat engineering, plus it cleans my sinuses out at the range. And everybody else's too.

Back to the ammo shortage; if anyone finds any, tell me. I'm about half way through my case of Romanian.
 
I think the ammo shortage is likely due to the recent availablity of cheap tokarevs from a number of distributors. I doubt there are nearly enough ar or other conversions out there to explain the ammo situation.
 
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