I see that I need to pass a course for a CC permit since Im not retired law, military, trainer etc. Just some joe Schmoe who's had guns since he was 4. I want my CC permit while I still have that right. However, the permit costs 150 and the courses I'm finding run about 100. Is this the cheapest thats out there? I'm in Thornton Colorado area. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Where to get a CHEAP CC permit course?
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Don't go cheap, get the best course you can, then take another one too. Carrying a gun is a big responsibility, and it doesn't matter how long you've been shooting, because self defense with a compact handgun is different than plinking out in the woods somewhere. If you are strapped for cash, wait a little longer and save up.
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yeah, I'm sure moving to Alabama would cost a lot less than the $80 he'd save...
Honestly, the "move to XX" posts are completely pointless. Why bother? Really, it's just insultive to the other member if anything.
I'm not an idiot with a gun. I'm going cheap because I'm already well versed in handguns and safety. Not only military and law have been taught gun safety and proper use. So I need cheap just to get the permit. So do you know any where or not?
Yup. I can appreciate wanting to save a buck in this day and age, but are you really so pressed for cash that you'd be willing to take your chances with a bargain-basement CCW course?
Spend the hundred bucks. The information you get for your money may very well end up saving your life or keeping you out of prison one day.
The cheapest I found (And happened to be the best....) was $80, so I think $100 is probably reasonable.
i'm not following this logic
most states that require classes have a specified curriculum so all the ccw courses in the state are basically the same.
find the cheapest one you can.
and THEN go get some real training that isn't the goofy 4-8 hours of state mandated lecturing about why you don't want to shoot someone.
I understand what he feels. Its a PITA when you have been shooting most or all your life, and not only have to seek permission to use a right but get a class as well, especially one you dont need!
Thats fine for someone who doesnt know what they are doing but a major inconvenience for those who know what they are doing.
Im fortunate I was a LEO so i dont have to do that, but man its ridiculous the good guys have to jump through so many hoops when the bad guys are carrying regardless
Thats fine for someone who doesnt know what they are doing but a major inconvenience for those who know what they are doing.
Im fortunate I was a LEO so i dont have to do that, but man its ridiculous the good guys have to jump through so many hoops when the bad guys are carrying regardless
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That is, as they say, life. I may not have been shooting most of my life, but I have some good training, including Gunsite, Louis Awerbuck, Massad Ayoob, etc.; but I still had to take the class for a Nevada CCW. (I have Utah, Florida and Arizona.)
Nobody knows how good you are until you show him. And I've also know plenty of folks who have been shooting most of their lives and really don't know what they are doing, especially when it comes to self defense law and the practical use of a handgun in self defense (and of course the usual CCW class isn't going to help much with the latter).
My fathers a retired Parol officer. My stepfathers a deputy sherif. My grandfather is a WW2 vet. My brother is an ex- marine. These are the people who taught me about guns and safety. Yeah, I'm fine with paying the cheapest I can find and getting half assed training. I don't need it to begin with. I shouldn't have to take the damn course to begin with. However, to obey the laws, I will jump the hoops for my RIGHTS. It's easier than risking jail because I didn't follow the OC laws closely enough. Some of you I appreciate the advice. I'll look into Utah and cross carry laws with Colorado. Anyway thanks to those of you who gave reasonable info.
Bad news, I'm afraid. It's my understanding that Colorado only recognizes a permit of another state if one is a resident of the other state. You'll want to double check, but that's what is says at http://www.handgunlaw.us/.bryskee said:
Carry Permit courses are just the minimum legal requirement to get the permit. They are not intended to serve instead of good defensive handgun training. Don't confuse the two.
Since they're just a required step in the permitting process, looking for the least expensive way to meet the requirement is only reasonable.
To that end, you should call the state and local RKBA organizations and ask who provides the least expensive certification training.
State fees are just state fees and there are no less expensive routes.
Since they're just a required step in the permitting process, looking for the least expensive way to meet the requirement is only reasonable.
To that end, you should call the state and local RKBA organizations and ask who provides the least expensive certification training.
State fees are just state fees and there are no less expensive routes.
not that it's helpful in CO, but here in TN, most places charge $50-75 and some are $125, but one county sheriff does classes for free each month. So it does pay to ask around a bit...
Keep doing what you're doing Bryskee. Someone will chime in on some website and let you know who you can work with.
I don't know where Thornton, CO is but if it is not in a pretty heavily populated area then instructors might be charging more than in a populated area where more instructors might be in competition and where an equally qualified instructor would be charging less. Around Tucson, classes are a pretty uniform $60 but most insist in a class size of 4 or some more to go ahead with the class, exam and range qualification. Some include fingerprinting in that fee, so do not ($5-$15).
Since I am not originally from Arizona, I sought out the most qualified instructor I could locate and he gave out lots of printed (and useful) information on state laws, where I could and could not carry, when lethal force was allowed or not. I easily got my money's worth and have good reference materials too.
Well, if a big population center where there may be competition among instructors is a long way off, your travel expenses may negate the value of making a trip but either way, I hope that after you complete the course, it will have been good enough that you will feel you actually received your money's worth.
Since I am not originally from Arizona, I sought out the most qualified instructor I could locate and he gave out lots of printed (and useful) information on state laws, where I could and could not carry, when lethal force was allowed or not. I easily got my money's worth and have good reference materials too.
Well, if a big population center where there may be competition among instructors is a long way off, your travel expenses may negate the value of making a trip but either way, I hope that after you complete the course, it will have been good enough that you will feel you actually received your money's worth.
The Fall guy and others: Yes. I'm willing to risk jail and other BS to save a few bucks. Can you guys drop it now. I'm not paying 400 bucks. I'm glad to hear 100 is close to average across the board. And it's easier to break a law with the stupid OC regs than it is with a CC permit. So drop it. I'm paying as little as can. Wrap your brains around that and answer the question. I'm not seeking your opinion, I'm asking for information. As others said, the training is the same across the board, the fee is not.
The majority of you others, thanks for the help and at least letting me know the fee is about the same across the board and offering up suggestions and thoughts on how to go about this as well as understanding the situation. I'll hardly if ever carry it but it will be nice to know I can when needed and will be nice to have it in case they start messing with the laws. I can't think of too many times I would need/want to CC but those few times I need/want to would be worth it. It's just pathetic I have to go through these hoops when it's already supposedly my RIGHT.
*I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it*
The majority of you others, thanks for the help and at least letting me know the fee is about the same across the board and offering up suggestions and thoughts on how to go about this as well as understanding the situation. I'll hardly if ever carry it but it will be nice to know I can when needed and will be nice to have it in case they start messing with the laws. I can't think of too many times I would need/want to CC but those few times I need/want to would be worth it. It's just pathetic I have to go through these hoops when it's already supposedly my RIGHT.
*I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it*
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OK Kevin, so how much do I need to spend to make this "training" a good one so you all feel I'm doing the right thing? 500, 1000, 5000? What price tag do you put on it? You all seem to think that money= good training. some of you are judgmental SOB's that have no clue who I am or why I want/need this yet you are quick to judge and tell me I'm not HR material huh. But I would be if I just shut my mouth and said Oh 500 for training is great. You're the type helping anti gun folks pass BS tiny laws that chip away at our rights.
The Dumbest people I know are the ones who play Confucius and type fortune cookie messages and think more $$$ = better training.
Additionally, you're telling me people like Loop who paid 2000k+ to be an instructor, and charges 80 (The cheapest almost) is not worth a crap because it's only 80$. Tell Loop that he's not worth a crap. That's what your all saying. If I find the cheapest, which is about 80, like loop, that the training is not good and I should pay more.
The Dumbest people I know are the ones who play Confucius and type fortune cookie messages and think more $$$ = better training.
Additionally, you're telling me people like Loop who paid 2000k+ to be an instructor, and charges 80 (The cheapest almost) is not worth a crap because it's only 80$. Tell Loop that he's not worth a crap. That's what your all saying. If I find the cheapest, which is about 80, like loop, that the training is not good and I should pay more.
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bryskee:
For what it's worth, I believe that each individual should decide how much training they need. I don't have a problem with looking for the cheapest training available to satisfy the legal training requirement. That being said, I also believe that where lives are at stake, you can never have too much training. There is a difference between the training required for a CC permit and the training required to become truly proficient in when, where, why and how to use the firearm. The latter type shouldn't end with issuance of the permit. More money is not always better training, but should never be the primary factor in selecting the training.
BTW, the tone of your posts suggests that you are someone I would not feel comfortable around knowing you are armed.
For what it's worth, I believe that each individual should decide how much training they need. I don't have a problem with looking for the cheapest training available to satisfy the legal training requirement. That being said, I also believe that where lives are at stake, you can never have too much training. There is a difference between the training required for a CC permit and the training required to become truly proficient in when, where, why and how to use the firearm. The latter type shouldn't end with issuance of the permit. More money is not always better training, but should never be the primary factor in selecting the training.
BTW, the tone of your posts suggests that you are someone I would not feel comfortable around knowing you are armed.
Without a doubt you know guns and shooting. As stated before, the real purpose of most of these classes is to understand how the LAW and the COURTS work. Every state has different laws concerning carry and self defense. Common sense doesn't often work in this area, as the laws often make little or no sense. A good course with a good instructor helps navigate you through this maze of legal mumble jumble. Sometimes the best instructors will even have lawyers present the more complicate legal portions of your state's laws. A good course may also offer lots of self-defense scenerios that result in quality class discussions about what constitutes valid self defense and how to handle the aftermath of a self defense shooting. This is stuff you HAVE to know to keep yourself out of jail.
Even after you complete your course and get your ccw, it is important to stay current on law changes, changing interpretations of the same laws, and court decisions in your state. The best way to do this is to frequent the discussion section of the website of your state's concealed carry association. I don't know what Colorado's is, but an excellent example would be Missouri's www.missouricarry.com.
Even after you complete your course and get your ccw, it is important to stay current on law changes, changing interpretations of the same laws, and court decisions in your state. The best way to do this is to frequent the discussion section of the website of your state's concealed carry association. I don't know what Colorado's is, but an excellent example would be Missouri's www.missouricarry.com.
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