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I'd get that one. It says it's a converted Saiga, which you really can't go wrong with. Once converted (like this one already is) they're some of the best AKs on the market today, comparable to Arsenals. They have a smoother action and better finish than most. Love that classic look, too.
 
I bought from Atlantic Arms and there were good to deal with. The one you chose should be as good as any other and I think the Saigas are a better basis for a AK variant than most. Mine is really pretty accurate too. I can usually shoot about 2 inches at 100 yards if you don't count the one flyer that usually seems to open the group up to about 3-4 inches. If I fire ten shot nine will be in a little group and one little SOB will be off to the side. Its a great shooter though and I can bang away at steel plates at 200 yards with boring regularity.
 
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Who did the conversion? Did they properly refinish, fill in holes and rivet the trigger guard properly? Who made the wood furniture? And what is that weird sqaure marking at the rear of the receiver from the right hand view? Without knowing such things or at least having handled this gun how can anybody recomend it? I say it again. Arsenal.

Oh yeah, Crapco triggers are too light for an AK. Its not a precision gun.
 
To the OP I would place a call to AA and ask them who did the particular conversion so you can research it. I'm sure you will learn a lot that way.


EDIT: A little searching online and I came up with TGI. Tennesee Gunworks made mine too and it works fine but the Arsenal would be worth a lot more in the long run. If you need to part with it for some reason you can sell a used Arsenal overnight but a lot of guys won't touch the TGI. I have to agree with JustinJ that the extra money might be worth spending in the long run. The SGLI AK is on Bud's Guns for $795 with free shipping. Thats only $80 difference.
 
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It's a tough call. I love the look of that gun and TGI has an okay reputation. That having been said I've found Arsenal SGL 21s at my LGS for $720. So I think personally I'd buy an Arsenal first but I don't think that would be a bad gun if you prefer the look.
 
been reading up on the arsenal. does anyone know where i can get some decent wood furniture? will probably put a slant brake on it too. i just like the old school look better

also been reading people been having problems with the plastic front sight.
 
That one looks pretty good! If you have any questions about it, Atlantic Firearms is a member here and would be happy to answer if you want to send them a Private Message. They have a great reputation for customer service, if any issues do arise.

(FWIW, Tapco triggers are the one thing they do really well. I've put them in my AK builds and like them quite a bit.)

If you are looking for very nice wood sets for AKs, look no farther: http://ironwooddesigns.com/IWDHome.html

Not sure what plastic front sight you're talking about.
 
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Oh yeah, Crapco triggers are too light for an AK. Its not a precision gun.
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Yes, that is a great point. I proclaim that all AKs be equipped with 25lb triggers.
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But a better point is obviously that the only options are 3 lbs or 25 lbs. I'm sure there is no good reason standard issue weapons don't come with 3 lbs triggers either.
 
been reading up on the arsenal. does anyone know where i can get some decent wood furniture? will probably put a slant brake on it too. i just like the old school look better
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slant brakes you can get just about anywhere. As for wood furniture, I'd check the usual auction sites and the equipment exchange section at www.ak47.net. If you don't mind finishing your own wood www.ironwooddesigns.com is a great place to go.

also been reading people been having problems with the plastic front sight.
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I've seen a lot of Arsenals and none of them have plastic sights. If you actually find an Arsenal with one don't but it, that's a sure sign that somebody's modified the rifle. The factory one is metal.
 
JustinJ. What exactly is the vendetta against Tapso G2 triggers? It seems everyone and their brother recommends the Tapco. If you prefer something different if would be a lot less passive aggressive if you would just state what you don't like at the Tapco and what would be a better choice and why. The bashing isn't very productive.
 
Oh yeah, Crapco triggers are too light for an AK. Its not a precision gun.
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How do you figure? The G2 is good but it's by no means a match trigger.

I don't understand this lynch-mob that gathers when someone mentions a nice trigger in an AK. A 16" AR isn't a precision gun either, but no one seems to mind a match trigger in one.
 
JustinJ. What exactly is the vendetta against Tapso G2 triggers? It seems everyone and their brother recommends the Tapco. If you prefer something different if would be a lot less passive aggressive if you would just state what you don't like at the Tapco and what would be a better choice and why. The bashing isn't very productive.
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Unless you personally designed the Crapco trigger i'm not sure why you would take such offense to a term commonly used to refer to their products. I stated why i don't like the trigger on an AK...they are too light. A much better option is the Arsenal which goes for about the same price.

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Oh yeah, Crapco triggers are too light for an AK. Its not a precision gun.

How do you figure? The G2 is good but it's by no means a match trigger.

I don't understand this lynch-mob that gathers when someone mentions a nice trigger in an AK. A 16" AR isn't a precision gun either, but no one seems to mind a match trigger in one.
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I by no means accused it of being a match trigger. There is more to making a good trigger than just making it too light. My objection to the tapco is that it is too light for an AK if one intends to do anything with it besides shooting from a bench. And even then i've seen on more than one occasion people shoot over the berm with these things. Any in the right platform a 16" AR certainly can be a precision rifle. But if not in that platform for that type of shooting, it also shouldn't have such a light trigger, IMO.
 
And even then i've seen on more than one occasion people shoot over the berm with these things.
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Sounds like the solution is to keep the finger off the trigger until ready to shoot. That said, I've onwned several Tapco products and the G2 trigger is the only thing they make that I enjoy. I actually love how lightly it breaks, and generally get about 1.5 - 2 MOA with iron sights @ 100 yards.
 
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Sounds like the solution is to keep the finger off the trigger until ready to shoot. That said, I've onwned several Tapco products and the G2 trigger is the only thing they make that I enjoy. I actually love how lightly it breaks, and generally get about 1.5 - 2 MOA with iron sights @ 100 yards.
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I totally agree. The Tapco G2 Trigger is the only Tapco product that I would buy at this point in time. I guess the only time people fire unexpectedly is when they have a light trigger on an AK..... SURE. It could never happen with an AR, Garand or (insert firearm name). It's just probably that old crappy AK and has nothing to do with firearm safety.
 
Sounds like the solution is to keep the finger off the trigger until ready to shoot. That said, I've onwned several Tapco products and the G2 trigger is the only thing they make that I enjoy. I actually love how lightly it breaks, and generally get about 1.5 - 2 MOA with iron sights @ 100 yards.
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Both times i saw it happen was immediately after the first shot when they accidentally pulled the trigger before getting the barrel back down on target.

1.5-2.0 MOA iron sights with a an AK47? Uh huh.

I totally agree. The Tapco G2 Trigger is the only Tapco product that I would buy at this point in time. I guess the only time people fire unexpectedly is when they have a light trigger on an AK..... SURE. It could never happen with an AR, Garand or (insert firearm name). It's just probably that old crappy AK and has nothing to do with firearm safety.
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It is ultimately a poor safety practice but it happens because of how people tend to shoot AKs and that they don't expect such a light trigger with them. But outside of the range LE and homeowners have accidentally shot people they did not intend to on multiple occasions due to adrenalin and light triggers which makes the tapco a poor choice for a HD gun, imo. As i understand many police departments have trigger pull requirements well above what a tapco provides.
 
So, to sum up your point: AKs should have awful triggers because people don't expect them to have good triggers.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
 
With iron sights, 1.5-2 MOA is awesome. With a scoped AK, 1.5-2 is easy from my experience.
 
With Arsenal making their name in the AK world, the prices have increased dramatically. They are more popular than ever. A nice AK built is hard to beat and can give the AR a run for their money.
 
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