"White Death" Mosin Clears Throat

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One of the most legendary of Mosin-Nagant rifles is the M28 series of Civil Guard rifle. It was built out of M91 parts with new match grade barrels and improved sights. I've had M28/30's before, but never found the original M28's in anything approaching workable condition. They saw the brunt of intense fighting in the Winter War, the Continuation War and the Lapland War. Not to mention frequent target practice and hunting by the Guardsman who kept them like personal arms.

After years of looking I found one for a good price and moved fast enough to grab it--an early issue with a SIG barrel and two-piece nose band. This one also has the special extra slot for forward-slinging by bicycle and ski troopers. Those were the ski troopers who inspired the creation of the 10th Mountain Division and earned the reputation as "Belaya Smert" among hapless Red Army conscripts cut off in the "motti" along isolated mountain roads. This one was originally issued to a Civil Guardsman in Mikkeli, which was to become the HQ of the Finnish military during the wars. It's impossible to know where the rifle was sent, but the Guardsmen were rotated out to the fronts over and over again.

The triggers feature a special spring that makes them a very nice two-stage trigger that breaks crisp. It feels totally unlike other Mosin triggers.

With this one, the bore is worn but serviceable. The two-piece nose cap is predictably coming apart, which is why they changed the design in later M28's. The barrel and receiver are in excellent shape. The barrel is remarkably heavy, but well balanced. It has a unique shape unlike any other Mosin's barrel. I believe it is heavier than the M39's barrel and I noticed that even after dozens of rounds it barely got warm to the touch.

Unlike the later 28/30 this one does not have the new style rear sight. It uses a slightly improved M91 sight. But it's still tough on my old eyes. With sharper eyes though you could really drive tacks with it. The stock is unfortunately showing its age. These stocks were notorious for being somewhat iffy, and I believe they were simply cut down from parts of old M91's. They are not the same as the later two-piece Finnish stocks. This one has stripped buttplate screw holes, stripped front band cap screw holes, a wrist crack, and a few other potential issues. It holds up OK but as you can see it's been cleaned of its finish in preparation for some repairs. Someone epoxied the wrist but I know it won't hold long. When it cracks again I'll be binding it together with a thin brass screw. I also plan on drilling out the old screw holes, inserting dowel and re-drilling them. That should get the Buttplate back together. Once that's done I'll pine tar it up again and it will be good to go.

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Now for shooting! I had done my homework on these beauties, so I knew that the bores are tight and may approach .3085". I also know these are match-quality arms that tend to be far more picky about ammo than most Mosins. So I gathered and pre loaded over a dozen different combinations of bullets and powder in batches of 5 to run the full gamut from light ball to heavy match.

The first results with Barnes .308" TSX and some .308" match grade mid-weight bullets were horrific. Not just bad but really awful. Groups were high, right and scattered at just 50 yards. Some groups measured over a FOOT across, and that's shot from a good bench position.

But I pressed on, and I was rewarded. I got to the Lapua Scenar 185 grain loads and instantly the groups tightened up. Then I got to what looks to be a sweet spot load with Varget:

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You can see two groups, one from when I aimed with the dot in sunrise position and the other when I zeroed in on the bull. With some sight adjustment this will be a real winner. Keep in mind that was after the barrel was already fouled and my eyes were full of glacial dust from the high winds. I got similarly good results with other heavy Scenar loads and also very promising results with D166 Lapuas. The factory 7.62x53R Lapua Match, which uses Scenars, was also very good. With another session of tweaking I should have an MOA rife on my hands. But you never, ever would have guessed it based on the initial results--some with very nice bullets.

It's probably not a Mosin for everyone. It has little in common with the workaday Soviet fare most folks know. And it's a harder rifle to find than the M39's and late model Tikka M91's that are available from the post-Winter War period. But if you want to get your hands on a rifle that almost certainly saw front-line combat in an epic confrontation, you would have a hard time doing better than the M28.
 
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Hello friends and neighbors // Thanks for the outstanding write up.

I never knew the two stage trigger existed and much of the rest was an educaion too.

Glad you found the "sweet load" on the first day.
I know the relief/satisfaction obtaining good groups brings after you seek out and make such a purchase..

How did you happen to be in the right place at the right time?
 
Thanks for the write up. I have had Mosinitis for a long time (my first ever milsurp purchase was an 1891) but was not familiar with this variant.
 
Man!!!!!

You didnt miss a thang, Cosmo!!! Its great when a fellow can see and read up in a sweet, unalter'd 28 :D

I have one too, without the ski slots, one peice 91 stock and the old Korlove sight that was remilled by the Finns, something that wasnt updated to 28/30, I figure was held by the original owner till wars end when ALL Rifles were to be turned in.

Does your have the "D" stamp to show an updated throat for the Soviet cartridge? If not, than that baby is smak original! (Mine is "D" mark'd)
The stock looks stripped, (age and use) but not sanded, though it has its Toe repairedd, if its not a "spliced stock" but original, I bet the Toe was done when the original 91 was being rebuilt and the stock brought to working order as a brand new M28, a common repair on Mosin stocks during arsenal visits.

VERY , Very few M-28 were not updated, you have a gem there Cosmo, and as a fellow Alaskan, Im down right jelouse you could find such up this way!!!!!!!! ~~LOL!!~~

excellent write up of the facts, proper repair plans and shooting!! Glad it landed in yer hands and not "Bubba's"!!

Rock on, Man!



Cal gun man,if the chamber is marked with a "D" stamp, it will chamber and fire the longer 7.62X54R Rissian D cartridge, if not , then the chamber wont allow the slightly longer bullet of the soviet cartridge to easily close the bolt. To be able to fire both, the Finns relived the throat of the chamber so both cartriges fit. The Soviets used a longer, heavier bullet, and the Finns had quite stock of captured Russian stuff,(and Tons more after the Winter War) but accurized the round for their use, and hence, the 7.62X53R.
For more info on such ,heres a link with a bit of an explanation about the two very simular cartridges....kinda like .223 vs 5.56X45.....
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthr...nction-revealed-between-7.62x53R-and-7.62x54R.
 
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It's good thing that piece of history is in good hands, and even better we were privileged to learn something about these fascinating and historical rifles here.
 
Nice old rifle, Cosmoline!
Also, a great write up and range report. I have one M28, and admit I've only shot it once. Have yet to find a good load for it.
Your report gives me hope.:D
 
FWIW - the stats on the Winter War (where this rifle saw service) were something like 23,000 Finns killed to about 300,000 Russians. Anyone who's ever handled or shot a Finn Mosin can testify to the different feeling they give over other Mosins. The Finns issued one fine rifle to their soldiers.
 
Wrench--you should check out Midway. They sometimes have the heavy Scenar and D166 bullets in stock. They're listed under .308" bullets. I'm getting best preliminary results with Varget, not vihtavuori. Which suits me well given the really big price difference between those.

Wait, so is this a .308 mosin or does it still shoot 7.62x54r?

It's a .308" Mosin as in inches not chambering. .308 vs. .308". Actually I have not slugged it but I suspect it's about .309" now that all the copper fouling is out (there was a ton of it!). These pre-war Finns tend to have tight bores.

This one does have the "D" stamp and really prefers the heavy bullets.

Caribou--I think you're right about the sanding. I thought it was at first but close inspection I can still see some fine markings on the wood that would have been destroyed. It's seen more than its share of weather and any water on it goes right into the grain. But it held up well enough in recoil and the wrist split is not a fatal one. Obviously I'd prefer not to do anything to it, but if left alone in its current state and exposed to elements the wood will get more and more splits as it's being used. It's a tricky issue though. I want to use it, but I also don't want to destroy its history. And the cracks and stripped wood screw holes are part of that history. Like you I think these rifles should be used. Maybe I'll keep an eye out for a spare M28 stock (lol on that).

How did you happen to be in the right place at the right time?

Just pure luck looking at GB listings. It also has an antique Tula receiver, which saved me the money of going through an FFL up here.

I never knew the two stage trigger existed

It's "sisu" engineering. "Sisu" is the Finnish can-do spirit. Not so much making lemonade out of lemons as making tank killers out of old wine bottles. All they did is take a little wire coil spring and wrap it around the pivot in such a way as to add resistance after the first stage of the trigger. Like a mousetrap. So you feel little resistance, then you feel the spring tension, then the crisp release. I'm surprised nobody has started selling kits to accomplish the same result.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/M28trigger2.JPG
 
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Though I don't know much about these rifles, I did notice where Cabela's is selling Mosin-Nagat rifles, chambered in 7.62X54R, including bayonet and "all accessories" for $99.99. I don't know how good of a price this is and no mention of condition was made. They also have a 20 round box of Herter's 7.62X54R, 148 gr FMG ammunition on sale for $10.99.

Just thought someone might find this interesting and of value.
 
Cosmo, give this some thought. The way I fix stripped buttplate holes is I clean out the holes a bit and then use 2 part epoxy to fill the hole approx. 1/3 then coat the screw with some cosmoline and screw it into the hole 1/2 turn from the tightened position. let it set up for at least 24 hrs. Back the screw out, wipe it off and you are ready to go.
 
Cal gun man,if the chamber is marked with a "D" stamp, it will chamber and fire the longer 7.62X54R Rissian D cartridge, if not , then the chamber wont allow the slightly longer bullet of the soviet cartridge to easily close the bolt. To be able to fire both, the Finns relived the throat of the chamber so both cartriges fit. The Soviets used a longer, heavier bullet, and the Finns had quite stock of captured Russian stuff,(and Tons more after the Winter War) but accurized the round for their use, and hence, the 7.62X53R.
For more info on such ,heres a link with a bit of an explanation about the two very simular cartridges....kinda like .223 vs 5.56X45.....
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...R-and-7.62x54R.

Ahh ok. I figured it couldnt be 308 as in the cartridge. Thanks for the link, reading up on that now.
 
I thought about that epoxy fix but I'm not sure it would hold over time. Cleaning out inside there is going to be tricky. But I'm still debating what to do or not do with this rifle. I put up a question about it over on the Collector's forum.

I did notice where Cabela's is selling Mosin-Nagat rifles, chambered in 7.62X54R, including bayonet and "all accessories" for $99.99.

Those are Soviet surplus 91/30's. They're solid workhorse rifles but quite different from the Finnish M28's. They're also a lot more common. The 91/30 was made in the tens of millions, but only 30,000 or so M28's were made--many of which were either converted to 28/30 or are long gone.

Vic Thomas did a great writeup on these here:

http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/m28-rifle.asp
 
Thanks for that link too btw. I thought I knew just about every Mosin out there and I knew about the 28/30 but didn't know the stuff about the 28. That is amazingly cool, man! Great rifle.
 
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It's "sisu" engineering. "Sisu" is the Finnish can-do spirit. Not so much making lemonade out of lemons as making tank killers out of old wine bottles.

The Finnish Liquor Control Board (or whatever it's counterpart was called in Finnish c. 1939) actually took part in the production of firebombs and provided thousands of them during the course of the war. To those who don't know, this type of firebomb existed prior to the Winter War, but it was here that it got the name "Molotov Cocktail," in honor of Russian Secretary of Foreign Affairs (or whatever his title in Russian was) V.M. Molotov.
Sorry to sidetrack, but I have a huge amount of respect for the Finns and their fine rifles!
 
Any country that twice stopped a Soviet takeover and produced the highest scoring sniper to date should be applauded.
The M-28 was the Mosin Nagant variation Simo Hayha used to achive 1/2 his kills with.

I belive that it was Stalin himself that toasted Finnland ate the end of the war celebrations.
 
Agreed... I could easily get this thread sidetracked on the Finnish performance during the Winter War, which I consider to be one of the most impressive examples of defensive warfare in the history of the entire human race.
They also brought the Suomi to the battlefield, which had such an impact on the Russians that they developed and issued the PPsh-41 in large numbers shortly thereafter.
 
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