Who builds custom bolt guns?
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P.B.Walsh
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GA Precision
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*EDIT*, I just now saw that you requested it for 500S&W, sorry, I don't know of any for that caliber.
Iron Brigade Armory
Texas Brigage Armory
Tactical Rifles
Tactical Operations
Surgeon Rifles
McMillian
*EDIT*, I just now saw that you requested it for 500S&W, sorry, I don't know of any for that caliber.
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Mauser will build an M 98 in any custom caliber deemed safe. However, a base M 98 goes for almost $8000 US.
http://www.mauserwaffen.de/
http://www.mauserwaffen.de/
I saw a place on the net a year or so ago but their site is gone. I could have had a barreled action with a heavy 28" barrel for about $1500.
My goal is to make a modern gun with similar ballistics of my 50-90 sharps, and the 500 mag doew it. I tried the handi rifle but the sights are very lacking and the barrel length is too short.
My goal is to make a modern gun with similar ballistics of my 50-90 sharps, and the 500 mag doew it. I tried the handi rifle but the sights are very lacking and the barrel length is too short.
for an upcharge to cover tooling costs or whatever, I imagine someone like GA precision would do it. The question of course is why? You will spend a ton of money for something that provides no value over a t/c prohunter barrel that you could get for $300. To each their own of course, but there is a reason nobody makes one and you are having trouble finding a custom maker that will do it...
I think the challenge is finding a receiver with a bolt that would fit the rim on the 500. You would have to go to a large magnum receiver, like a 375 h&h or larger. Take an empty cartridge and go comparison shopping. Smallest big cartridge maybe 45.70??
Don't feel like the lone ranger with your question. I would love to have a rifle fire 32 magnum or the 327 magnum that just came out. Why, hell bells, I do not have to have a reason!!!
Don't feel like the lone ranger with your question. I would love to have a rifle fire 32 magnum or the 327 magnum that just came out. Why, hell bells, I do not have to have a reason!!!
Unless you are set on a bolt gun would it not be easier to get a 28" barrel built instead of a complete rifle.
Good luck in your hunt I've got to shoot a S&W500 a few times and it was a hoot.
There are tons of people that will make any caliber encore barrel you want in any length, and they are not horribly expensive, certainly much cheaper than commisiioning a custom bolt gun. Here are a few of the more well known ones...
http://www.matchgrademachine.com/gunshop/product.php?productid=16436&cat=287&page=1
www.bullberry.com
i wanted a similar custom bolt gun for an entirely different reason not long ago. had no real luck finding the right receiver/components/smith
After making calls to the above listed shops no one is willing to do the job.
Can any one else think of a shop that can do this?
Can any one else think of a shop that can do this?
pwillie
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I have two builders in Selma,Al. Jim Mc Collough and Harvey King.I am at home,but will get you their numbers tomorrow,Willie.
Thats great.......thanks. I wish the place I had was still there. They listed just about everything ever made. I wonder what happened to them.
pwillie
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Eric: My guy says he can do it,but you would be better off money wise to call or email T.C. and asked about their dealers that have done it,Willie Hope this helps.
Willie can they build it with a mag capacity of 3?
Seems like there are some large bore bole actions alresdy around that can take the rim size.
Seems like there are some large bore bole actions alresdy around that can take the rim size.
pwillie
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Eric, some things to consider...
1) If building a 500 S&W bolt rifle requires a magnum Mauser action and bolt, then there are many, many better cartridges than the 500 S&W... it's a handgun cartridge, after all.
2) Being a handgun cartridge, you're unlikely to get anything out of that 28" barrel that you wouldn't get out of a carbine. Pistol powders are simply too fast, and the case capacity is too small to use the slow rifle powders that a 28" barrel could optimize.
3) You're looking at a five-figure gun, when everything is included. Custom barrel, custom bolt, magnum Mauser action (these are not cheap), then you're gonna want to put a high-grade stock on it (hell, you're gonna be well over five grand just for the barreled action and the bolt, and you're not going to want to put that into a cheesy plastic stock), the right scope for such a rifle is not going to be cheap either... You'll be well over ten grand by the time you're done. What about a 500 S&W bolt gun would justify that price? (That question has more than one answer, by the way... it's just that you need to ask it of yourself before you commit)
Bottom line, it's not going to be easy, and it's not going to be cheap. Are you sure this is what you want?
--Shannon
1) If building a 500 S&W bolt rifle requires a magnum Mauser action and bolt, then there are many, many better cartridges than the 500 S&W... it's a handgun cartridge, after all.
2) Being a handgun cartridge, you're unlikely to get anything out of that 28" barrel that you wouldn't get out of a carbine. Pistol powders are simply too fast, and the case capacity is too small to use the slow rifle powders that a 28" barrel could optimize.
3) You're looking at a five-figure gun, when everything is included. Custom barrel, custom bolt, magnum Mauser action (these are not cheap), then you're gonna want to put a high-grade stock on it (hell, you're gonna be well over five grand just for the barreled action and the bolt, and you're not going to want to put that into a cheesy plastic stock), the right scope for such a rifle is not going to be cheap either... You'll be well over ten grand by the time you're done. What about a 500 S&W bolt gun would justify that price? (That question has more than one answer, by the way... it's just that you need to ask it of yourself before you commit)
Bottom line, it's not going to be easy, and it's not going to be cheap. Are you sure this is what you want?
--Shannon
There's a couple things to consider here.
First you're looking at building a rimmed cartridge which is going to require an action set up for rimmed cartridges. That pretty much leaves you with a Patter 14 enfield/ Gibbs 45-70 conversion or a Siamese Mauser.
Next up is the smith. All the smiths mentioned so far are spectacular when talking remfnchesterclones for accuracy work. There's not a one on that list I would trust to properly set up and provision a mauser/enfield.
Were it me, I would instead start talking to Jim Kobe out of MN, Dennis Olson in MT, James Anderson or Bill Soverns out of SD.
What you want to do is very doable and not that far fetched, all it'll take is money. You'd probably get a better idea or more pointed answers taking your question over to Accurate Reloading where this kind of project is the norm as opposed to the black rifle/remfnchesterclone crowd here.
First you're looking at building a rimmed cartridge which is going to require an action set up for rimmed cartridges. That pretty much leaves you with a Patter 14 enfield/ Gibbs 45-70 conversion or a Siamese Mauser.
Next up is the smith. All the smiths mentioned so far are spectacular when talking remfnchesterclones for accuracy work. There's not a one on that list I would trust to properly set up and provision a mauser/enfield.
Were it me, I would instead start talking to Jim Kobe out of MN, Dennis Olson in MT, James Anderson or Bill Soverns out of SD.
What you want to do is very doable and not that far fetched, all it'll take is money. You'd probably get a better idea or more pointed answers taking your question over to Accurate Reloading where this kind of project is the norm as opposed to the black rifle/remfnchesterclone crowd here.
pwillie
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Thanks Folks. Tube ee I already have a 22 inch H&R I am getting plenty of muzzle flash off of factory ammo which means powder is still burning. Problem is the sights on the rifle and the weight. The 500 mag is equal to or better than my 50-90 sharps. Problem is the H&R weight and the sights. I understand its a "pistol cartridge" But it should have been a rifle cartridge first IMO.
So why the bolt gun? Follow up shots and thats it.
I found a thompson center barrel(aftermarket) in 28". I am considering that option too. Thanks willie I will give a call on Tuesday.
So why the bolt gun? Follow up shots and thats it.
I found a thompson center barrel(aftermarket) in 28". I am considering that option too. Thanks willie I will give a call on Tuesday.
No it does not
It just means that there's a lot of high pressure gas and a very small amount of combustible residue getting into the oxygen rich atmosphere. Powders such as H110 DO not have flash suppressants added
I had a 500 handi, and while a real thumper my chony shows that my 20" rifle was only gaining 100 to 200 FPS over 10 barreled revolver loads. 500 magnum has a very high expansion ratio and such cartridges tend to not gain as much from longer barrles
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