Who Do You Check First For Reloading Data?

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I would try a different powder before giving up on the Nosler partition just yet. H380 is a usable powder but not what I would call an ideal powder for 243 Win. I would at least try something with the numbers 4350 or 4831 before switching bullets.
 
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For true. I've been around the block a couple three times and do decree that one must know his individual business, but when the rc speaks, there you goes simple as simon.
 
I have a couple of 788's in 243 that I will try with these Nosler Partitions. Nothing against the Nosler Partitions, just I have tried about a dozen different bullets (including commercial) in this particular gun and the Game Kings are the first reloads to show any promise in this gun since I bought it over a year ago (this was a gun I sent back to Remington and they sent back a target with a 3-shot group of 1 1/4" and told me it was good to go). I was getting 4" to 8" groups with some of the H380 loads and with the cost of these bullets I'm not willing to waste any more in this gun.
 
Generally, Here.

I get all the good ideas, and the bad- then I hit the loadbooks.

Usually Hodgdons, as its all online and can be quickly referenced with whats here...then Alliant, to find yet another load that Unique works well in. Rarely disappointed on that one.

Then, sometimes I'll hit the speer book, as i tend to use a lot of speer bullets.

Wash it all together, then come here with what I wanna try.

Wait for the himming and hawing... discuss... ad nauseum..... It usually breaks down into a few categories each time :

- that load looks good, I shoot something similar
- you might get better results with my pet load " xxxx"
- Try a slightly different length, or grain less or more
- that load is so weak, it won't even cut paper
- **** you Newb, that load will blow up not only your gun, but your neighbors house, your wifes skivvies, and take us all into a hellish supernova of destruction!

Then I squish 'em and shoot 'em.
 
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I like those single caliber load books. You can cross reference several powder and bullet makers data all together. I have most of the major manuals but those single caliber books are very handy.


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I usually check the bullet manufacturers dope first. Sometimes I don't have the exact bullet listed in any of my books, so I will look online at the powder manufacturers info and in my books for a similar bullet. I then choose a load that is on the low end of the info I have looked at and carefully work up a load. Info on a 150 gr bullet, for instance, can vary considerably from source to source.
 
I use Berry's plated bullets with W231 powder. so I go to data.hodgdon.com. Berry's doesn't provide their own load data, just a guideline to use "hard cast load data or start with low to mid-range jacketed data."

Hodgdon's data seems pretty complete; they had load data for the exact Berrys bullet I'm shooting.
 
I go to the bullet maker first as most have said.

After that it depends. I try to go to a similar constructed bullet and then to the powder manufacturers. At worst case i just go to quickload and work it up myself. Finally if nothing is working out, I just search my handloader DVD's.

My rule is to get at least 2 independent and consistent checks on data before I test it out.

Also, I assume all load data provided on the internet is suspect till independently verified. Trust no one, including the powder companies. Remember mistakes happen.
 
Bullet Manufacturer, Powder Manufacturer, Every Manual I Have.

It's that order every time. I shoot Hornady bullets almost exclusively so that's my most referenced manual. For cast bullets it's an average of a few sources since I don't use Lyman molds.


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What I do is go to the Loadbook, check the powder mfg site, check the Lee book (which is mostly republished data), check the Lyman book and finally check the book Propellant Profiles for the powder I'm using. I make a table showing grains, FPS, OAL and bullet model (if given). I usually lean toward the bullet mfg data if the OALs are all over the map. In most cases, data from all the sources will be very close. You will also see in some of the data its indicated whats the most accurate load (Lyman does this as do a couple of the bullet OEMs).
 
I check as many sources as I possibly can with the most reputable being the bullet mfg and powder. I also do not start at the min or max charge but about the middle.
 
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