Why do gun shops close on Sunday?
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LoadedDrum
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My local dealer is a one man operation. He is open 10 hours three days a week and 7 hours on the the three others with Sunday off. Every day he gets there at least an hour early. He also has six kids, three of which are still at home. He has not been on vacation in as long as I have known him and likely many years before I knew him. I think getting Sundays off is not too much to ask for a guy in his position.
Also, one thing I have noticed is that shops with ranges are open on Sunday and shops without are not, with one or two exceptions in the local area.
Also, one thing I have noticed is that shops with ranges are open on Sunday and shops without are not, with one or two exceptions in the local area.
real_name
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Hospitals?
Police Stations?
Fire stations?
Prisons?
Water processing plants?
Power plants?
TV stations, radio, internet?
Life needs to go on, and commerce should be allowed to find it's own level. We aren't living in a solely Christian world.
Eleven Mike
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Careful, billybob, we have some ultra-literalists around here. Take it in the sense intended, people.
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Nevermind.
10-Ring
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I guess I'm lucky, my favorite gun shop is open Saturdays & Sundays from 7am to 6pm and closed mondays 
Sometimes Californians get it right!
Sometimes Californians get it right! mfree
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We're open 9-9 weekdays, 10-7 saturday and 12-5 sunday.
Most businesses have to realize, even disregarding sunday, that if they're only open 9-5 then they're going to lose a heck of a lot of business from the other poor Joes who work 9-5. At least stay open late during the week, otherwise it's a lost cause.
Most businesses have to realize, even disregarding sunday, that if they're only open 9-5 then they're going to lose a heck of a lot of business from the other poor Joes who work 9-5. At least stay open late during the week, otherwise it's a lost cause.
In Connecticut, the background check system often goes down on Sundays
Obviously, the state employee operators are not in. The automated system is set to give out 'temperary denials' to which need an operator to override. They do it to save money. Sometimes they will have somebody in on Sundays when there is gun shows, and sometimes during hunting season.
Obviously, the state employee operators are not in. The automated system is set to give out 'temperary denials' to which need an operator to override. They do it to save money. Sometimes they will have somebody in on Sundays when there is gun shows, and sometimes during hunting season.
stevelyn
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Dude, it does rock. Being in the military and law enforcement, I have never worked a conventional 9-5, M-F work week.
I currently have Mondays and Tuesdays off and basically have the world to myself.
+1 on Hogwash. More revisionist history bunk by the religious fundamentalist cartels.
Byron Quick
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According to my dictionary everything means everything, therefore the questions about closing everything are not "ultra-literal." Simply people who assume that the person speaking knows how to precisely use the language.
Back when I was managing a retail business, I had the same type of thoughts. My customers are working now too. So, I stayed open later at night and on Sundays. Kept a close check on the sales for the additional time. Kept it up for several months. Didn't make enough extra to even cover the additional overhead. Started closing at 6PM and on Sundays again and avoided the additional overhead.
Same reason that except in high volume areas many of the 24 hour grocery stores and Wallyworlds now close at midnight.
Eleven Mike
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Thread drift alert:
What does it mean to say that America was founded on Christian principles?
Was it?
What does it mean to say that America was founded on Christian principles?
Was it?
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I've always wondered about the closing on Sunday thing too.
Some of these same guys do gun shows on Sunday.
Look at Lowe's or Home Depot on a Sunday. They are jammed,
Sunday is the time folks have free to go do things.
If a guy wnats to close on Sunday, thats cool I guess. But a shop open then would stomp him business wise.
Some of these same guys do gun shows on Sunday.
Look at Lowe's or Home Depot on a Sunday. They are jammed,
Sunday is the time folks have free to go do things.
If a guy wnats to close on Sunday, thats cool I guess. But a shop open then would stomp him business wise.
RugerSAFan
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Way back when I was in colled, the small farming community (now becoming a suburb) generally closed down at 5:30pm during the week, but all shops were open until 8:00pm on Thursday's.
Seemed like a good compromise to me. Most places closed around 2:00pm on Saturday.
No walmarts around at that time.
btw, my former employers was one of those large box stores. They eventually went 24x7 except for Christmas day. Since the store was already full of employees stocking, cleaning, etc., it didn't cost a huge amount more for some cashiers. The main reason they decided to stay open is they didn't want to lose the customers who thought "I want to go to Mxxxxx for some lures, coffee, golf balls, milk, diapers, etc., but I'm not sure if they're open this late...". People eventually learned they were always open.
It's amazing how many people shop at odd hours...
Seemed like a good compromise to me. Most places closed around 2:00pm on Saturday.
No walmarts around at that time.
btw, my former employers was one of those large box stores. They eventually went 24x7 except for Christmas day. Since the store was already full of employees stocking, cleaning, etc., it didn't cost a huge amount more for some cashiers. The main reason they decided to stay open is they didn't want to lose the customers who thought "I want to go to Mxxxxx for some lures, coffee, golf balls, milk, diapers, etc., but I'm not sure if they're open this late...". People eventually learned they were always open.
It's amazing how many people shop at odd hours...
Creeping Incrementalism
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Nothing ticked (past tense) me off more than stores that remained closed on Sundays. That doesn't really happen anymore--I can't think of a single retail store that closes now Sundays. The biggest gun store within a 30 minute drive was actually the last business I know stay closed on Sundays, but they stopped that several years ago.
I don't understand you people who act like it's impossible to stay open on Sundays in retail and make money. The mentality of where I grew up was that working on Sunday (or, weekends) was standard for retail, just like M-F is in the office, and Sunday was always the second busiest day after Saturday.
Not being religious, I'm also curious--is it actually written down in the Bible that Sunday is the sabbath? Because Sunday is the first day of the week, not the seventh, according to every single calendar I've ever seen. I once dated a girl whose family went to mass every week, and it started at midnight Monday morning.
For you one-man gunshops--I don't know how you can possibly stay in business at all. There's a certain critical mass needed to achieve economies of scale in retail. I don't know any FFLs that are a one-man operation, except for the ones who do it part-time from a storefront that's really a real estate office or whatever the ATF/local gov't lets them get away with, but then again I don't puruse a whole lot of shops, so maybe there are some in my area.
I don't understand you people who act like it's impossible to stay open on Sundays in retail and make money. The mentality of where I grew up was that working on Sunday (or, weekends) was standard for retail, just like M-F is in the office, and Sunday was always the second busiest day after Saturday.
Not being religious, I'm also curious--is it actually written down in the Bible that Sunday is the sabbath? Because Sunday is the first day of the week, not the seventh, according to every single calendar I've ever seen. I once dated a girl whose family went to mass every week, and it started at midnight Monday morning.
For you one-man gunshops--I don't know how you can possibly stay in business at all. There's a certain critical mass needed to achieve economies of scale in retail. I don't know any FFLs that are a one-man operation, except for the ones who do it part-time from a storefront that's really a real estate office or whatever the ATF/local gov't lets them get away with, but then again I don't puruse a whole lot of shops, so maybe there are some in my area.
Eleven Mike
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The word sabbath means "rest," so it need not be on the seventh day. The Bible records that Christ's resurrection occurred on the first day of the week, and that the early Christians often met together on the first day, which we now call Sunday. Presumably, though, many of these Jewish converts would have continued to meet in the synagogue on the seventh day. As Christians, especially Gentile converts, no longer observed the civil and ceremonial aspects of the Jewish Law, Sunday services with baptisms, communion, hymns and preaching supplanted the Jewish Sabbath.
Christians in America today, however, are pretty sketchy on the idea of a day of rest. Many consider it a sort of ritual to go out for Sunday dinner at a restaurant (and letting others work for you would also violate the Sabbath). A lot of us think nothing of working Sunday, and going to church Saturday night, instead, or of churching Sunday morning and going out to see a movie that night (making others work for you again). Then there are folks like me who go to church in the morning, eat dinner at home, sit around all day, and then go back for an evening service. Don't work or buy stuff on Sunday unless in dire need. It definitely ain't observing the Sabbath in the Jewish sense, as my wife cooks elaborate meals every Sunday afternoon, and I do the dishes.
I have seen calenders, though, in which Monday comes first as it's the first day of the business week.
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A few points. Mn has a no sunday car sales rule, All dealers by law must remain closed. Every few years it comes up again and it gets turned down again, IT is the dealers who want a day off. It workes for them.
I worked for years at a gun shop that had the hours of 12-6 Mon-Fri and Thursdays they would close at 8 and Sat 8 to 6pm, it did great business. During hunting season or Fridays before openers we might stay open a bit later. We would often get there in morning well before opening to get a start on the day, fixing guns, doing log ins and running orders etc. If someone banged on the door before opening we might let them in or see what they needed. The owner was man who could not say a sentence with dropping a bomb, but he said him momma told him no one kept a business open on sunday so he was not going to.
I have never understood retailer who only work bankers hours. had the shop been mine i would probably kept it till 7 pm 6 days a week. Most of the guys we sold to were business and blue collar. They all complained about driving like mad men to get there during hours. There were days we would not get 3 people in before 3:30 and do $5,000 by closing.
I worked for years at a gun shop that had the hours of 12-6 Mon-Fri and Thursdays they would close at 8 and Sat 8 to 6pm, it did great business. During hunting season or Fridays before openers we might stay open a bit later. We would often get there in morning well before opening to get a start on the day, fixing guns, doing log ins and running orders etc. If someone banged on the door before opening we might let them in or see what they needed. The owner was man who could not say a sentence with dropping a bomb, but he said him momma told him no one kept a business open on sunday so he was not going to.
I have never understood retailer who only work bankers hours. had the shop been mine i would probably kept it till 7 pm 6 days a week. Most of the guys we sold to were business and blue collar. They all complained about driving like mad men to get there during hours. There were days we would not get 3 people in before 3:30 and do $5,000 by closing.
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