That's probably your answer. Urban Greenways can be areas where mugging and attacks take place. He was probably overreacting due to his female companion.
Why Do Weird Things Like This Happen To Me?
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Tinman357
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I know what you mean about weird stuff randomly happening to you. I have a knack for it as well. My weird-stuff-o-meter usually gets pegged by just odd bad luck.
Example. I could be crossing a road. Stop and carefully look both ways. Halfway across I guarantee I'll get hit by an airplane. Then I'll get run over be the firetruck going to the plane crash. After crawling my bruised and broken butt to the other side, a police officer will be standing there writing me a ticket for jaywalking.
Laugh if you want. But that is very possible with my luck. Wouldn't suprise me a bit.
The weirdest stuff happens to me.
I know what you mean about weird stuff randomly happening to you. I have a knack for it as well. My weird-stuff-o-meter usually gets pegged by just odd bad luck.
Example. I could be crossing a road. Stop and carefully look both ways. Halfway across I guarantee I'll get hit by an airplane. Then I'll get run over be the firetruck going to the plane crash. After crawling my bruised and broken butt to the other side, a police officer will be standing there writing me a ticket for jaywalking.
Laugh if you want. But that is very possible with my luck. Wouldn't suprise me a bit.
The weirdest stuff happens to me.
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@Night Rider said “Why do weird things like this happen to me?”
You described the couple, now let’s look at you. There are things that will set some people off and scare them.
Just trying to get a picture, so, do you have long hair, was your hair neatly combed, do you have tattoos, piercings, facial hair, a neck beard? Are you a minority, was your attire tactical, goth, any military items, fanny pack?
Even with none of those, some people will give off a macho vibe that others pick up on.
I’m not putting this on you, some people just get scared meeting someone in a non urban setting like a hiking trail. Don’t think you’re the only one things like this happen to, having worked in security you may just have a keener sense about it.
Hope your future walks are less stressful!
You described the couple, now let’s look at you. There are things that will set some people off and scare them.
Just trying to get a picture, so, do you have long hair, was your hair neatly combed, do you have tattoos, piercings, facial hair, a neck beard? Are you a minority, was your attire tactical, goth, any military items, fanny pack?
Even with none of those, some people will give off a macho vibe that others pick up on.
I’m not putting this on you, some people just get scared meeting someone in a non urban setting like a hiking trail. Don’t think you’re the only one things like this happen to, having worked in security you may just have a keener sense about it.
Hope your future walks are less stressful!
"Had he not put it away timely" describes a different situation.
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Sounds like both of you were paying attention to what was going on around you but he didn’t walk out the door that day quite ready.
I get that nervous feeling when people make much effort to get in my 6:00. Maybe you just don’t look like a fellow that enjoys a pretty photo.
I get that nervous feeling when people make much effort to get in my 6:00. Maybe you just don’t look like a fellow that enjoys a pretty photo.
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I don't disagree but that didn't happen. Really, the guys standing there with a closed knife in his hand, who was at least 15 or 20 ft away from me and facing away, wouldn't have really merited any response Beyond keeping an eye on him either.
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That would be my guess, maybe he was absentmindedly playing with it and upon encountering OP thought; "Oops! Better put this up before someone gets the wrong idea!"
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With the exception of shorts instead of long pants I was dressed exactly like this
ETA there's an old story about two armies that met on a field to discuss terms of peace.
Niether side was looking for a fight but a fly landed on one soldier's nose and he slapped it.
A soldier from the second army saw the motion and drew his sword.
a soldier from the first army saw the sword drawn and drew his.
The whole thing escalated into a battle and both sides suffered terrible casualties.
No one came to that field looking for a fight.
There's a lesson in there if you look for it
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It's a pocketknife. He could have been cleaning his fingernails, scraping out a splinter, cutting a tag off his shirt. You can't just shoot anyone with a knife in his hand. He might have just moved it to a different pocket because it was in the way or making sure he hadn't dropped it.
There has to be a middle ground between being ready in case something happens and shooting any 8 year old whittling on a stick.
We have established now that the man was facing away, and we have established that he had pocketed the knife, and that did not appear pose a threat.
But it is well established that a person with a contact weapon--and that would include a "pocketknife"-- at a distance of a few yards can close that distance and cause serious injury in the time it takes a defender to draw and fire.
What to do is a judgment call, and there is little or no margin for error.
One more time, my comment addressed what might have happened had he not pocketed the knife, and it was in response to the comment "I don't blame him", referring to the man with the knife.
I can assure you that you will not see me with a weapon in hand near someone else, even if I am in "condition yellow".
There certainly is. I take my knife out in public with lots of folks around quite often. I've trimmed broken fingernails in a city park, opened boxes for employees at Home Depot, cut branches out of a trail at a county park, cut a piece of string to repair a dogs leash, cut open units of lumber at the lumber yard and many other of a wide variety of things. Plenty of good reasons for a person to take out their pocket knife that have nothing to do with using it as a weapon.
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Ah, the deadly club, obviously carried to crush skulls.
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I don't know about anybody else, but I'd be on alert seeing someone with a blue dot for a face!
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I look pretty normal on my mountain hikes...
To be fair, there are some weird folks hiking up in the Olympics.
Ill admit i dont try to read into people's actions most of the time. In that partial situation i would assume he got poked in the butt by his knife, or was moving it from pocket to pocket....if hed been using it id expect him to have stopped walking.
I do always kinda wonder what hikers think when we pass where i hunt. While not universal, they are usually from off island.
I do always kinda wonder what hikers think when we pass where i hunt. While not universal, they are usually from off island.
On some knife forum...
So, I'm walking along with my girl and we see this man on the trail taking selfies with ironed pants; I thought it weird that anybody would iron their pants to walk on a trail. I decided to get my knife handy in case this guy attacked us. We walked by without incident. I had my knife in my hand but nobody ever notices or cares*.
*Same thing I see said about printing or open carry and they don't know that, only that nobody said anything.
So, I'm walking along with my girl and we see this man on the trail taking selfies with ironed pants; I thought it weird that anybody would iron their pants to walk on a trail. I decided to get my knife handy in case this guy attacked us. We walked by without incident. I had my knife in my hand but nobody ever notices or cares*.
*Same thing I see said about printing or open carry and they don't know that, only that nobody said anything.
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When I hunted in cold climates, you rarely saw anybody else, but in HI climate, there are always people out and about.
When I hike on O’ahu, some of the areas are also open to hunting, so I think about possible stray shots. But I have yet to encounter anyone hunting, or heard any shooting.
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Two pairs of sunglasses would definitely be a tell something was up…
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I saw this guy on the trail while hiking in the Smokey Mts. In June with his wooden weapon, Bengals hat, and shirt with foreign writing.
My spidey sensors were off the chart…
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Why Do Weird Things Like This Happen To Me?
For the record, nothing actually happened to you. You just witnessed a guy putting a knife in his pocket. Everything else about the knife is speculation. As you were not privy to the couple's conversation before they passed you, you have no idea what they were talking about or why the guy had the knife out. He could have been showing off to his girl when you happened by. It could have gone wonky in his pocket and he pulled it out and reinserted it in a more comfortable position. As noted, he may have just been playing with it it.Even if the guy palmed the knife for passing you on the trail because he had perceived you as a possible threat, nothing happened to you.
Do people die more slowly here or something?
Mindset was great, but he missed the possible threat, turned his back on it, and did not notice it until after it was moving away and pocketing.
So you are carrying a club and you are worried because somebody was carrying a knife?
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Shorts bro Shorts.On some knife forum...
So, I'm walking along with my girl and we see this man on the trail taking selfies with ironed pants; I thought it weird that anybody would iron their pants to walk on a trail. I decided to get my knife handy in case this guy attacked us. We walked by without incident. I had my knife in my hand but nobody ever notices or cares*.
*Same thing I see said about printing or open carry and they don't know that, only that nobody said anything.
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This is one of those things that I can't explain and maybe I am reading into it but the way he was holding that knife was not some guy casually moving it from pocket to pocket or playing with it.
He was holding the knife in a manner that suggested that he was getting ready to use it.
Or, maybe I read into it because like most people here I think about things like that
He was holding the knife in a manner that suggested that he was getting ready to use it.
Or, maybe I read into it because like most people here I think about things like that
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This makes a lot of sense. Did you see him take it out, or just put it away ? Also, might he have encountered an uncomfortable situation further back on the trail and just decided to keep it out…just in case ?
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And you did nothing to save the girl? Obviously, the threat wasn't to you. He passed you and was moving away.
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