1KPerDay
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What does this stuff do that’s worth 5X the price of other subs?
Why is Blackhorn 209 $160/lb???
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Acorn Mush
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WOW!!! Seems like a sure way to convince one to find a more cost-effective alternative, doesn't it? I have never used, or even touched, an inline and doubt I ever will and therefore have no need for this product. The price seems outrageous, and I feel for those who do use the stuff however.
Malachi Leviticus Blue
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I assume It's sold in 1/2 lb bottles because it weights 70% of Black Powder
So that might make less expensive per shot than you might think, but still pricey.
So that might make less expensive per shot than you might think, but still pricey.
Years ago I bought a jar of it that had a broken lid. Price cut in half of that time's price but still too expensive. I used it to load for an old Webley Mark IV. I wasn't impressed. I think it's mostly for maximum performance in modern inline muzzle loaders. Good ol black powder works just fine.
brewer12345
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Because they can?
Never seemed worth the trouble and expense to me.
Never seemed worth the trouble and expense to me.
hawg
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I don't have anything it will work in but for that price it better load the gun and clean it afterwards.
I see it this way. Guy want to hunt in state that only allows shotgun and muzzle loader to deer/bear hunt. Drives a ton dully diesel pickup but never hauls or pulls anything or gets off pavement. Money is not an object to gaining some advantage with his high-tech inline.
jmorris
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Because someone kept buying it at $150/lb. If they keep buying at $160, I would expect to see $170.
Honestly, if you could sell the same item at $60/lb or $160lb, as a retailer, what would you do?
The only thing that makes them lower prices (other than sales/lost leaders) is because they have to, to keep products moving.
Honestly, if you could sell the same item at $60/lb or $160lb, as a retailer, what would you do?
The only thing that makes them lower prices (other than sales/lost leaders) is because they have to, to keep products moving.
Because they want to test the limits of people like me who ordinarily are not cheapskates but at prices like this will not buy the stuff not because it costs too much but almost purely out of principle.
Never brought or tried the stuff but I know from what I read that regular smokeless in cartridge cases will shoot rings around it in power and reliability.
Good luck selling it. I would not support that kind of price gouging. They better have a good explanation.
Never brought or tried the stuff but I know from what I read that regular smokeless in cartridge cases will shoot rings around it in power and reliability.
Good luck selling it. I would not support that kind of price gouging. They better have a good explanation.
alsaqr
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Yes!!!!
Most BH 209 users refuse to try other black powder substitutes.
If muzzleloader folks simply refused to pay outrageous prices the stuff would accumulate and the price would drop drastically.
Malachi Leviticus Blue
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or they might stop making it.
either way I'm good.
I like actual Black Powder "even" in my inlines.
If it's not real Black Powder it's just not the same and takes away from the experience.
Hugger-4641
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I experimented with it when Walmart had it for $29/lb. It does burn a little cleaner than 777 or Pyrodex, maybe goes a couple more shots between cleaning, but performance wise there's nothing to make it worth $60/lb or more when the others are $30/lb.
Mark_Mark
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lets do the math of $170 a pound….
50grain load….. 7,000/lb…… $170?!?!-/:/;
a buck a shot! if the hunt cost $2,000+ and BH209 is your jam… well, $170/# is NOTHING
woodnbow
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It’s just that good?
9x56MS
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Greed, plain and simple greed.
Hugger-4641
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Yep, if it made the difference between me taking an elk or muley at 100yds+, then sure I'd use it. But my testing hasn't shown me any great advantage over 777 or Rs or 50/50 pellets.
Patocazador
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I use it exclusively when deer hunting with a muzzleloader. It is actually an altered smokeless powder and will not corrode the barrel even if not cleaned for quite a while.
I bought several bottles of it years ago when it was sold in 10 oz. bottles for about half of the current 8 oz. price. Of course, the dollar bought about twice as much then as now with the ungodly inflation lately. I still have about 3 bottles left which will last me the rest of my life.
I bought several bottles of it years ago when it was sold in 10 oz. bottles for about half of the current 8 oz. price. Of course, the dollar bought about twice as much then as now with the ungodly inflation lately. I still have about 3 bottles left which will last me the rest of my life.
American Pioneer FFg Black Powder substitute 1 lb $24.99 American Pioneer FFg Black Powder Substitute 1 Lb - Reloads World
I started with real DuPont black, had to deal with GOI, Curtiss and Harvey, Elephant,and others. First Pyrodex(crap). Second Pyrodex(still crap but less) T7, and all else. BH209 is great but when my two bottles are gone, so is it. Still have a few lbs of the real DuPont. Price? I’m shooting $4 black from 1970.
earlthegoat2
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Try Shooters World Multi Purpose Black.
It doesn’t have the performance but supposedly is very clean.
It doesn’t have the performance but supposedly is very clean.
hawg
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It's Swiss or Pyrodex for me.
