Why is he in trouble?

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The police in Denver will be revising the Colorado Revised Statutes for the next week. And it ain't going to be in our favor. Note the GM of the Hyatt's comment - "He is not registered in our hotel". They have already started to justify their conduct/influence the media. I promise that neither the FOPA, or the Bill of Rights. is going to help this guy just now.
 
My point is that in today's world traveler's are all terror suspects, and law abiding gun owners are no different to these "security personnel" than assassins. I would be much more concerned with the comment from the Secret Service spokesman who said that this guy was arrested for "Unlawfully Carrying a Weapon".
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What law was broken? If no law was broken, there can be no lawful arrest and the man should be free after his first mandatory hearing in front of a magistrate.

You are advocating a level of paranoia that only encourages this kind of nonsense. It is beholden on gun owners to follow the law. That is difficult enough, without having to figure out whether one of the Nobility is staying at our hotel.

Also, what exactly should this man have done? Assume he was staying in Denver en route to some Rocky Mountain hunt. What should he have done with his arms? Leave them on the curb? If he is breaking no law, then the authorities who arrested him have done so illegally.
 
The clerk checking him in noticed the rifle case and called security.
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But the Grand Hyatt General Manager says he was not a registered guest at the hotel.

"We don't know why he was walking through our hotel," said General Manager Ed Bucholtz.
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These guys really need to get their stories straight before they talk to the press. How can a clerk be "checking him in" if he wasn't a registered guest?
 
Well, I posted this here because it smelled a bit fishy to me when I read the story. Now we have a bit more data and it sounds like the guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time and at the very minimum may miss out on what sounds like an expensive hunting trip he has paid for. guns in his bags? concealed carry permit? How do people in Denver carry their pistols to the range?

I look back at how they were grabbing firearms from citizens who legally owned them during Katrina and I firmly believe the country is in trouble. The politicians and LE's get a bit nervous about something and they over react and throw our rights out the window!

If there ever was a real crisis in the US I believe we would all lose many of our rights and possible chaos would insue. I know that sounds extreme but it is scary to think how delicate our freedoms have become.

They way I see it is that we all have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms to prevent the loss of the freedoms our forefathers gave this great country. So, buy more guns! :)

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These are the same guys who advocated in their plank that Chicago style bans are working and that need for gun ownership works differently in differnt parts of the country. -or something like that.
 
Police say Calanchini had permits for the rifles, but did not have concealed permits to carry two pistols that were found in his luggage.
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Colorado law (CRS 18-12-105):

(1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:
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(b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person;
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The words "about the person" means sufficiently close to the person to be readily accessible for immediate use.
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Guns in luggage clearly aren't illegal according to Colorado law. Don't know about Denver law.
 
This is a total joke arresting a guy on probably false charges for guns in his luggage when he is going to a hotel. What law did he break? If this guy has the money, he should have a good lawyer lined out to get his property back from Denver and maybe some damage money.
 
the secret service is a force of nature and they will error on their side when they percieve it might be needed
 
For those of you who believe that this guy was falsely arrested. . . You are right. He was falsely arrested. Does that make any difference to him today? Not a bit. Will it at his arraignment? Nope, not then either. Will he spend thousands of dollars to prove that he was falsely arrested? Yep. Will this make any difference to any of the cops, prosecutors, politicians, judges? Not at all. Will any of them be held personnally responsible for violating Mr. Calanchini's civil rights?

Will he ever be able to clear his name? Not likely. His fingerprints have been electronically submitted to the CBI and FBI. Get this expunged? Good luck on eliminating his criminal history. Google his name and from now until Kingdom come his name is in a story about his arrest. . . .
 
the secret service is a force of nature and they will error on their side when they percieve it might be needed
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That comports with everything I've heard about them. Esp. since 9/11 they have morphed into a latter day Praetorian Guard. They answer to nobody but the President and operate above the law when and as needed. But that still doesn't answer why local authorities saw fit to arrest a man who apparently wasn't doing anything illegal. The SS was not directly involved in this, at least from what I can tell from reports on line.

Does that make any difference to him today? Not a bit. Will it at his arraignment? Nope, not then either.
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Of course it makes a difference to him. It also makes a difference at the initial hearing. The state MUST show the basis for holding the man. This is not optional, unless he is treated as an "enemy combatant" and removed from the judicial system altogether.

Will he ever be able to clear his name? Not likely. His fingerprints have been electronically submitted to the CBI and FBI. Get this expunged? Good luck on eliminating his criminal history.
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Wait a minute. He has been ARRESTED. That's all. THIS DOES NOT CREATE A "CRIMINAL HISTORY." There is no conviction. As far as I can tell there is no legitimate CHARGE.

Unfortunately, most states severely limit a citizen's ability to sue for wrongful arrest. The state will typically give up when they get in front of a magistrate. But that does not create an actionable tort in most cases, though in extreme cases of abuse it can give rise to federal suit under 1983. The best means of eliminating this kind of nonsense is to expand the right to sue where an arrest is made with full knowledge that it is BS. You can bet the "thin blue line" and powers that be would fight such a proposal tooth and nail.
 
I like how a few people abbreviated secret service into 'SS'. that about sums it up.
 
Wait a minute. He has been ARRESTED. That's all. THIS DOES NOT CREATE A "CRIMINAL HISTORY." There is no conviction. As far as I can tell there is no legitimate CHARGE.
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But there is an arrest record for firearms violations isn't there?
 
Less than 40% of state arrest records are accurate, so even if this individual gets released with no charges filed, he may find it difficult to get the arrest off his record. Not to mention what's the chance he is now on the TSA almighty andnever to be altered no-fly list? There went ALL his hunting trips, if that happened.
 
Misdemeanor=10,000 bond? Okay, that's not excessive or anything. FOPA safe journey laws should protect him, I hope he finds some grounds to sue.

I was almost this guy once, I came rolling out of my house one fine sunny morning on the way to the range. By sling,bag, or case I was laden with about 7 guns, 5 of them rifles. So I stop one step out of the door and stare at the cop blocking my street. I ease back inside and puzzle on what I've done to deserve this, luckily unseen by the cop. Then it occurs to me that the Bush clan is in my neighborhood to attend the christening of the George Bush CVN-77. My place was locked down until they left town.
 
I think they got him for concealed weapons, the handguns in his luggage without a ccw. Same could happen here. Nevada law says something about backpacks, briefcases and so on. I guess even a range bag with a handgun and it could be considered concealed.
 
So RobNDenver, just how are y'all trying to get the AWB plank off the Democratic platform?

I am trying to understand this in regard to how you think this guy may have spoiled things.
 
All because of some nosey and likely anti hotel worker...a boycott of the hotel may be in order if it could be organized.

Does CO's definition of "concealed" apply to guns being transported in luggage or cases? Was what the guns were in count as a case under any law that says guns in a case are not considered concealed weapons?

This is also a very good case for VT/AK style carry...sure, a carry license is "shall issue" but the law can be used against people doing nothing wrong, like this guy, because he didn't pay a fee and get a little piece of paper, and some paranoid hotel worker was scared he might have a gun and called big brother in to harass him...this case is making me pretty mad.
 
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